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[AngryOfTuebrook]

 

[SasaS]

Just now, AngryofTuebrook said:

Not really sad, though, is it? There's no harm done by only playing the censored version. That song, with its "adult themes" should never be on the radio rotation alongside Shakey and Wizzard. 

I agree that you should either play it or not play it, it is extremely sad every time a work of art gets censored to suit a political agenda. Language and "adult themes", characters in that song is what makes it great.

[cloggypop]

Where was the shite bandwagon jumping twat last year eh? 

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/fairytale-of-new-york-ban-bbc-christmas-alex-dyke-kirsty-maccoll-pogues-a9231846.html

 

Radio 2 are still playing it uncensored anyway but as far as I can tell Radio 4 aren't playing it at all which is the real outrage here. 

 

https://radiotoday.co.uk/2020/11/fairytale-of-new-york-is-not-banned-at-the-bbc/

 

Just wait until Fox hears about BMG dropping Morrissey. 

[Rico1304]

In which a woman complains that a restaurant selling Chinese food is owned by white people, and gets it shut down. 
 

https://twitter.com/evystadium/status/1329110893133783040?s=21

[Bjornebye]

16 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

In which a woman complains that a restaurant selling Chinese food is owned by white people, and gets it shut down. 
 

 

 

She's trying to advertise something check her last comment

 

 

 

 

[Mudface]

The bitch has appropriated a white sandwich filling.

[Strontium]

1 hour ago, Rico1304 said:

In which a woman complains that a restaurant selling Chinese food is owned by white people, and gets it shut down. 
 

https://twitter.com/evystadium/status/1329110893133783040?s=21

 

These people are fascists.

 

The entire concept of cultural appropriation needs to die in a fire.

[Bobby Hundreds]

1 hour ago, Rico1304 said:

In which a woman complains that a restaurant selling Chinese food is owned by white people, and gets it shut down. 
 

https://twitter.com/evystadium/status/1329110893133783040?s=21

Romans used to dress as German barbarians because it became fashionable, every culture has evolved from something we all didn't just fucking pop up in our current borders fully formed and entrenched. Celts didnt eat rice dishes because it doesn't fucking grow here, the same with about a billion other fucking things. The calls of cultural appropriation are mostly a huge pile of bollocks not all but definitely mostly.  If some white weirdo wants dreadlocks then let him its his fucking hair he can do what he likes, completely fucking irrelevant if historically it was worn as an act of defiance. Its like people want more segregation and no celebration of what we all are humans, people just living our lives often inspired by different cultures.

 

As for oppression being a white thing take a look at the world now and through out history. Power corrupts all races.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

If you want to hear The Pogues song with the "faggot" line, just bang it on on YouTube or Spotify or whatever. You get to hear it as originally recorded, plus you can play it whenever you want instead of waiting for it to come on the radio. 

 

Easy solution. But, some people want to indulge in phony culture war for their own vested grifting interests. 

 

All I Want For Christmas Is You by Mariah Carey is a far superior Christmas ditty anyway. 

[Bjornebye]

8 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

 

 

All I Want For Christmas Is You by Mariah Carey is a far superior Christmas ditty anyway. 

Faggot 

[Pidge]

We talking about someone getting annoyed at hipster nonsense threatening traditional Chinese restaurants? Okay.

 

Guess freedom of speech doesn't extend to getting frustrated about gentrification.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

2 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Faggot 

F****t

[Rico1304]

It’ll be interesting to see if Fox gives up this grift when the next person comes along, and asks for forgiveness.  I don’t think we’ve seen that yet, whether he gets more mileage about renouncing his previous views. 

[Bjornebye]

4 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

F****t

 

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

53 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

These people are fascists.

 

Canadians?

[AngryOfTuebrook]

52 minutes ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

Romans used to dress as German barbarians because it became fashionable, every culture has evolved from something we all didn't just fucking pop up in our current borders fully formed and entrenched. Celts didnt eat rice dishes because it doesn't fucking grow here, the same with about a billion other fucking things. The calls of cultural appropriation are mostly a huge pile of bollocks not all but definitely mostly.  If some white weirdo wants dreadlocks then let him its his fucking hair he can do what he likes, completely fucking irrelevant if historically it was worn as an act of defiance. Its like people want more segregation and no celebration of what we all are humans, people just living our lives often inspired by different cultures.

I think there's some merit in the argument that it's best not to trivialise or monetise stuff that is sacred or deeply important to someone else.  Most of the time, people who do stuff like (for example) wearing a pastiche of a Native American headdress to a festival probably do it thoughtlessly.  Once it's pointed out that you're inadvertently upsetting people, then anyone who isn't a dick will just stop.

 

That's not to say that some claims of cultural appropriation aren't horseshit: obviously, some are, but some are valid.

[Strontium]

12 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Canadians?

 

Not all of them but some of them.

 

3 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

I think there's some merit in the argument that it's best not to trivialise or monetise stuff that is sacred or deeply important to someone else.  Most of the time, people who do stuff like (for example) wearing a pastiche of a Native American headdress to a festival probably do it thoughtlessly.  Once it's pointed out that you're inadvertently upsetting people, then anyone who isn't a dick will just stop.

 

No, I don't agree. Just because something is important to someone else doesn't mean anyone else needs to account for that. Nobody has a right not to be offended. People just need to stop being so precious.

 

It'd be like me getting upset that the cafe over the road from the office here sells bagels with cream cheese and bacon, breaking not one but two kosher dietary laws. When the reality is, I don't give a shit. People can eat/wear/frot whatever the hell they want.

[Bobby Hundreds]

10 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

I think there's some merit in the argument that it's best not to trivialise or monetise stuff that is sacred or deeply important to someone else.  Most of the time, people who do stuff like (for example) wearing a pastiche of a Native American headdress to a festival probably do it thoughtlessly.  Once it's pointed out that you're inadvertently upsetting people, then anyone who isn't a dick will just stop.

 

That's not to say that some claims of cultural appropriation aren't horseshit: obviously, some are, but some are valid.

Yeah there's a sensitivity involved but if it stretches to selling a dumpling its absurd and the kind of thing that cheapens even the valid arguments for it.  Plus there will be Native Americans selling headdresses, fancy dress gear, souvenirs because its makes them a living and others who are against it.  You can't please everybody or pander to every single person's sensitivities. There been examples of white girls wearing traditional oriental dresses and some people going spare about it while others say they are proud to see others celebrate their culture and style. Who do you pander too. 

[Bjornebye]

8 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

People can eat/wear/frot whatever the hell they want.

I'm not black but if someone walked past me in a Ku Klux Klan outfit I'd be offended. 

[Rico1304]

It’s ok, the shop owner has offered a fulsome apology for cultural appropriation.  Of course, that’s not enough. It never is. Fucking mental. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 hour ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

No, I don't agree. Just because something is important to someone else doesn't mean anyone else needs to account for that. Nobody has a right not to be offended. People just need to stop being so precious.

Nah. People who are so self-centred and self-important that they never give a fuck about upsetting anyone else are cunts; even worse than the people you (bizarrely) call Fascists because they whinge about a wanky deli.

[Rico1304]

17 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Nah. People who are so self-centred and self-important that they never give a fuck about upsetting anyone else are cunts; even worse than the people you (bizarrely) call Fascists because they whinge about a wanky deli.

Well they didn’t winge, they got it shut down.  What if you decide that upsetting people is an ok price to pay? Lots of people got very upset about the Life of Brian, but they were very correctly told that didn’t matter. 

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, Rico1304 said:

Well they didn’t winge, they got it shut down.  What if you decide that upsetting people is an ok price to pay? Lots of people got very upset about the Life of Brian, but they were very correctly told that didn’t matter. 

Wait till Biggus Dickus hears of this 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

5 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Well they didn’t winge, they got it shut down.  What if you decide that upsetting people is an ok price to pay? Lots of people got very upset about the Life of Brian, but they were very correctly told that didn’t matter. 

Sometimes it is OK to do that.  But nobheads who bang on about their inalienable right - nay, duty! - to be obnoxious cunts are just the absolute worst. 

 

What's wrong with good manners, kindness and basic human decency?

[Rico1304]

2 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Sometimes it is OK to do that.  But nobheads who bang on about their inalienable right - nay, duty! - to be obnoxious cunts are just the absolute worst. 

 

What's wrong with good manners, kindness and basic human decency?

Like, say, Frankie Boyle?