Virgil Van Dijk

[Kevin D]

Time to start leading.

[Barrington Womble]

Vvd has had an absolutely brilliant season and as soon as he has a couple of games below his best level, he's slaughtered. So far he's been an absolutely top class captain. 

[Bobby Hundreds]

12 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

Vvd has had an absolutely brilliant season and as soon as he has a couple of games below his best level, he's slaughtered. So far he's been an absolutely top class captain. 

Yeah I agree. I think he is guilty of being a bit too casual sometimes it's really nitpicking though.

[NoelM]

1 hour ago, Barrington Womble said:

Vvd has had an absolutely brilliant season and as soon as he has a couple of games below his best level, he's slaughtered. So far he's been an absolutely top class captain. 

 

Completely agree with this. Also earlier in the season he was getting some midweeks off but due to Konates brittleness, injuries to the fullbacks meaning Gomez cannot cover centre back, he is forced to play every game and babysit Quansah.

[Barrington Womble]

1 hour ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

Yeah I agree. I think he is guilty of being a bit too casual sometimes it's really nitpicking though.

but that's his style and everyone thinks it's fucking brilliant until he has an average game. 

[Carra_is_legend]

Plus he is an ever present in the team. Yet he gets criticized for simple little things. 

[Trojan1892]

There’s far more issues that are a concern VVD’s form is not one of them, Konate has been like a Sunday league player last few games.

[Vincent Vega]

2 hours ago, Barrington Womble said:

Vvd has had an absolutely brilliant season and as soon as he has a couple of games below his best level, he's slaughtered. So far he's been an absolutely top class captain. 

I'd say he's been our player of the year. I think a fair few of us worried that we'd seen the best of him after last season, but he's mostly been back to his best this season and has led the team brilliantly. Anyone calling him out now is surely just venting out of frustration at the team's current form and results.

[Pidge]

5 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said:

I'd say he's been our player of the year. I think a fair few of us worried that we'd seen the best of him after last season, but he's mostly been back to his best this season and has led the team brilliantly. Anyone calling him out now is surely just venting out of frustration at the team's current form and results.

 

I think that's beyond doubt, to be honest. 

 

A few shouts for Mac Allister, aside. 

[Barrington Womble]

8 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said:

I'd say he's been our player of the year. I think a fair few of us worried that we'd seen the best of him after last season, but he's mostly been back to his best this season and has led the team brilliantly. Anyone calling him out now is surely just venting out of frustration at the team's current form and results.

yes, he's been fantastic and he would be my player of the year. and i think if he was to lead us to the title, he probably should be player of the year for the league. 

[Vincent Vega]

3 minutes ago, Pidge said:

 

I think that's beyond doubt, to be honest. 

 

A few shouts for Mac Allister, aside. 

Alisson was brilliant early on as well, but he's just missed too many games to be in with a shout for our player of the year.

[VladimirIlyich]

13 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

yes, he's been fantastic and he would be my player of the year. and i think if he was to lead us to the title, he probably should be player of the year for the league. 

He hasn't got many competitors based on regular appearances considering how many games most of the others have missed themselves. I'm betting Gomez is up there if you include his sub appearances and cameos.

[Kevin D]

3 hours ago, Barrington Womble said:

Vvd has had an absolutely brilliant season and as soon as he has a couple of games below his best level, he's slaughtered. So far he's been an absolutely top class captain. 

He’s being criticised for playing poorly, just as he’s been praised for playing well.

[Mook]

13 minutes ago, Kevin D said:

He’s being criticised for playing poorly, just as he’s been praised for playing well.

 

This.

 

He's been absolutely shite the last 2/3 weeks & is being called out alongside pretty much every other player.

 

Up until that point, he was imperious.

[Barrington Womble]

30 minutes ago, Kevin D said:

He’s being criticised for playing poorly, just as he’s been praised for playing well.

 

actually you criticised him for his lack of leadership. he's been a brilliant leader all season. he can't win matches on his own. he can't be the only leader on the pitch. he's just a little off form and even that isn't much, he's not awful - in fact aside from slipping over, he was fine on sunday, just not exceptional. 

 

38 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

He hasn't got many competitors based on regular appearances considering how many games most of the others have missed themselves. I'm betting Gomez is up there if you include his sub appearances and cameos.

diaz and nunez have played a lot. gakpo has been available all season, he just hasn't been very good. macca has missed very few games. there's plenty around the squad who have played well. very few have played near his level for the season though. 

[Megadrive Man]

21 minutes ago, Mook said:

 

This.

 

He's been absolutely shite the last 2/3 weeks & is being called out alongside pretty much every other player.

 

Up until that point, he was imperious.

 

Do you expect him to be imperious in every game for the whole season?

[Mook]

22 minutes ago, Megadrive Man said:

 

Do you expect him to be imperious in every game for the whole season?

 

No but I do expect people to mention his massive drop in form on a Liverpool forum when results go tits up.

[SasaS]

Maybe it's the wrong boots? He fell over for both Palace biggest chances.

[TheHowieLama]

He has been a very good player, his performances are there for all to see. 

As the Capt on the pitch I think he is lacking a bit in the traditional English way. If there is a scuffle or a time to really get in the ref's face I think that his mild temperament - which helps as a player - does no favors as a Captain. 

He has always had it in him to look immediately at others when we concede, that has been well before he was made Cpt. 

[VladimirIlyich]

40 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

He has been a very good player, his performances are there for all to see. 

As the Capt on the pitch I think he is lacking a bit in the traditional English way. If there is a scuffle or a time to really get in the ref's face I think that his mild temperament - which helps as a player - does no favors as a Captain. 

He has always had it in him to look immediately at others when we concede, that has been well before he was made Cpt. 

I think that both he and Konate were culpable for the Palace goal at the weekend. Konate obviously moreso but Van Dijk wasn't blameless. I was also surprised at how he struggled against the Atalanta strikers as they seemed physically an even contest. Not that skilful but physically were very useful.

[Barrington Womble]

1 hour ago, Mook said:

 

No but I do expect people to mention his massive drop in form on a Liverpool forum when results go tits up.

He hasn't had a massive drop in form. 

[Mook]

4 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

He hasn't had a massive drop in form. 

 

We'll have to agree to disagree on that.

[Barrington Womble]

1 minute ago, Mook said:

 

We'll have to agree to disagree on that.

He had a poor night on thursday. When's the rest of the time he's been bad? He's wasn't great on Sunday, but he was very far from being our problem. 

[Mook]

1 minute ago, Barrington Womble said:

He had a poor night on thursday. When's the rest of the time he's been bad? He's wasn't great on Sunday, but he was very far from being our problem. 

 

I think the whole defence haa gone to shit since the international break & he's the one who holds things together. I thought he was poor at Old Trafford, really poor on Thursday night & was (partly) at fault for Palace's goal.

 

I think he looks very shaky at the moment unfortunately. Clearly he's not alone by any means & I agree, he's probably our 0player of the season regardless.

[Barrington Womble]

Just now, Mook said:

 

I think the whole defence haa gone to shit since the international break & he's the one who holds things together. I thought he was poor at Old Trafford, really poor on Thursday night & was (partly) at fault for Palace's goal.

 

I think he looks very shaky at the moment unfortunately. Clearly he's not alone by any means & I agree, he's probably our 0player of the season regardless.

We'll definitely have to agree to disagree about that one. The goal has nothing to do with him on Sunday (Bradley, Macca and konate all contributed to that). He was good at old Trafford. Our defence has been shaky for about 2 years.