Be honest, if offered 4th at the start of the season, would you have said yes?

[Pureblood]

I'm going to say no.  It's an Arsenal mentality.  

[Mook]

I'm going to say no. It's an Arsenal mentality.

There's a difference between getting the champagne out and seeing that 4th is progress and being reasonably content with it at this stage.

[Pureblood]

There's a difference between getting the champagne out and seeing that 4th is progress and being reasonably content with it at this stage.

 

I will be reasonably content with it but I wouldn't settle for it at the start of the season as I don't support Arsenal.

[Thoth]

As long as 4th is part of progression and we improve and qualify again next year then yep happy with 4th, had us in 6th with 5th at a push

[Ne Moe Imya]

There's a difference between getting the champagne out and seeing that 4th is progress and being reasonably content with it at this stage.

 

Too right.

 

An "Arsenal mentality" to me is being satisfied with fourth year after year.  If you asked me if I'd be satisfied finishing fourth the next three seasons in a row, then no chance.

 

If last summer you had offered me the chance at fourth I would have snapped your arm off, seeing as we had just finished a summer with a positive spend and were entering the season with about the sixth-best squad in the league.  

 

But only as a waypoint on the way to getting us to first at some point in the next few seasons.  Never as a plateau that we never move off.

[Bjornebye]

I will be reasonably content with it but I wouldn't settle for it at the start of the season as I don't support Arsenal.

 

 

I liked this because fuck arsenal but I don't agree. Mook is bang on. 

[Baltar]

Yes, absolutely I would have taken 4th. Let's just hope we actually finish 4th. Never know what's going to happen on the final day with this lot. About the only guaranteed thing is that Arsenal will beat Everton meaning we absolutely have to win our game.

[an tha]

There's a difference between getting the champagne out and seeing that 4th is progress and being reasonably content with it at this stage.

I hope our players don't embarrass themselves tomorrow with a load of dressing room pics doing an arsenal celebrating 4th.

[Bjornebye]

I hope our players don't embarrass themselves tomorrow with a load of dressing room pics doing an arsenal celebrating 4th.

You not booked Monday off for the parade ?

[an tha]

You not booked Monday off for the parade ?

already got my spec on green lane

[Mook]

I hope our players don't embarrass themselves tomorrow with a load of dressing room pics doing an arsenal celebrating 4th.

I'm worried about the result at the moment, I'll leave worrying about the other stuff until Monday if we win although I agree with you 100%.

[ZonkoVille77]

I thought we'd finish 6th so I'm happy with 4th. Although it's all for nothing if we don't get passed the qualifying round. 

[KMD7]

There's a difference between getting the champagne out and seeing that 4th is progress and being reasonably content with it at this stage.

Yeah this.

[Lee909]

4th in general can never be looked at as good enough but assuming we dont shit the bed its a big step forward that must be a stepping stone to better things. This is not a dig at Rodgers but He/FSG Wasted finishing second. For whatever reason we didnt go and get the players that could have pushed us on and his forfeit of the away Madrid game was a fucking disgrace.

 

 

Id have taken it at the start of the season so long as it leads to good targets in the summer. Klopp being playing with his hands tied behind his back in squad size and net spend compared to the other 5 of the top 6.

[an tha]

I'm worried about the result at the moment, I'll leave worrying about the other stuff until Monday if we win although I agree with you 100%.

Fair do's

[Pureblood]

The stepping stone argument.  I'm looking at Arsenal again.   What has twenty years of Champions League qualification helped them achieve?

 

The last two title winners weren't in the Champions League.  Our best title challenge came in a season with no European football.

 

Is it all it's cracked up to be?

[Pureblood]

Does anyone have an example of a club which has struggled to qualify for the CL, then qualified and gone on to much better things?  It doesn't have to be in the PL.

 

Spurs have qualified a couple of times but haven't won anything.

 

I suppose you could suggest Chelsea when they pipped us to fourth but Abramovich was more of a catalyst.  Same for Man City where ownership has been more important.

 

Newcastle United qualified but didn't win anything.  We all know what happened to Leeds.

 

Has there been a club which has qualified and used it as a springboard for future success?

[Bjornebye]

Does anyone have an example of a club which has struggled to qualify for the CL, then qualified and gone on to much better things?  It doesn't have to be in the PL.

 

Spurs have qualified a couple of times but haven't won anything.

 

I suppose you could suggest Chelsea when they pipped us to fourth but Abramovich was more of a catalyst.  Same for Man City where ownership has been more important.

 

Newcastle United qualified but didn't win anything.  We all know what happened to Leeds.

 

Has there been a club which has qualified and used it as a springboard for future success?

 

 

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welcome to modern football. 

[aRdja]

There's five better teams in the league, so yes.

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This.

[Aventus]

Does anyone have an example of a club which has struggled to qualify for the CL, then qualified and gone on to much better things? It doesn't have to be in the PL.

 

Spurs have qualified a couple of times but haven't won anything.

 

I suppose you could suggest Chelsea when they pipped us to fourth but Abramovich was more of a catalyst. Same for Man City where ownership has been more important.

 

Newcastle United qualified but didn't win anything. We all know what happened to Leeds.

 

Has there been a club which has qualified and used it as a springboard for future success?

2001 we scraped into the then top 3 by 1 point. First time we had got into the European cup since 85.

 

Had a couple of small campaigns in the seasons following, then finished 4th in 2004, 4 points clear of 5th.

 

2005 won it.

 

Couple of smaller cups after that.

 

I'd say that's a reasonable amount of success.

 

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[TheHowieLama]

Does anyone have an example of a club which has struggled to qualify for the CL, then qualified and gone on to much better things?  

 

Atletico

[TheHowieLama]

Monaco

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Napoli

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Leipzig

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Hoffenheim