Go fuck yourselves FSG

[liverpoolsno9]

We're fucked. FSG are cunts. Having to bring a defender out of retirement & an obviously well past it Robbie Fowler to play a pre season friendly just shows how desperate we are.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

We're fucked. FSG are cunts. Having to bring a defender out of retirement & an obviously well past it Robbie Fowler to play a pre season friendly just shows how desperate we are.

 

All to do with wage bill cutting.

[bossy]

 

All to do with wage bill cutting.

 

Robbie ain't cheap.

[dennis tooth]

3-4 years I think is more likely. You don't have to like them but personally I still think they're much better owners than G&H. If they do leave at some point I suspect the club structurally will be in much better shape, whether that will be reflected in our league position is another matter.

 

This is based on actual information and documents.

Owners are preparing the club for sale.

A few things to do first, as you would if you were selling your home in order to make it appeal before opening the auction.

This should take no more than 12 months, then a few months for the sale process, hence my 18 month timeframe.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

This is based on actual information and documents.

Owners are preparing the club for sale.

A few things to do first, as you would if you were selling your home in order to make it appeal before opening the auction.

This should take no more than 12 months, then a few months for the sale process, hence my 18 month timeframe.

 

Secret documents?

 

I'm intrigued. Any clandestine info you can let slip?

[vanball]

and the rest of us wish we could say the say for you and the rest of the FSG on line appreciation society.

 

Ah - so you admit that you only come on to post the negatively slanted stuff?

It appears to "our side" that NOTHING is right or works or is good enough in your eyes. It's just perspective - for some of you guys, it's either the sky is falling or everything is shit no matter what it is.

You are tiresome. This is our club that you are trashing every day.

[xerxes]

This is based on actual information and documents.

Owners are preparing the club for sale.

A few things to do first, as you would if you were selling your home in order to make it appeal before opening the auction.

This should take no more than 12 months, then a few months for the sale process, hence my 18 month timeframe.

 

To what "actual" information and documents do you refer?

 

We were bought as an investment, as such, we are always up for sale fi a sfficiently attractive price is offered. But that is quite different from being put up for sale, which I do not believe is, or is about, to happen. Why would it? There is no need for mass liquidation by FSG members. the inevestment is ticking along nicely and the opportunity cost is minimal with little stateside involvement.

[Randy Marsh]

Red Sox owner to buy Boston Globe from New York Times for $70m | Media | theguardian.com

 

On phone so can't post the full article, John Henry spending 70m on a Boston newspaper.

[Gym Beglin]

Big ass or small ass?

 

I'm a small ass man, fucking petite cheeks that fit in one hand.

[Jhinge Machha]

Big ass or small ass?

 

I'm a small ass man, fucking petite cheeks that fit in one hand.

 

pederast

[Spy Bee]

Secret documents?

 

I'm intrigued. Any clandestine info you can let slip?

 

No, because he's talking shite.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

No, because he's talking shite.

 

Is he? Is he now? Or could it be it scares you that he's onto something big? Something that could shake the very foundations of your world?

 

You keep digging Dennis and report back with your findings.

[dennis tooth]

Er Im sayin no more, watch.

[Chris]

You guys see Henry just spent $70m in cash on buying The Boston Globe newspaper? Guy certainly isn't short of a few quid, is he?

 

Red Sox Principal Owner to Buy Boston Globe Newspaper - William Launder - Voices - AllThingsD

 

EDIT: Just seen above.

[littletedwest]

To what "actual" information and documents do you refer?

 

We were bought as an investment, as such, we are always up for sale fi a sfficiently attractive price is offered. But that is quite different from being put up for sale, which I do not believe is, or is about, to happen. Why would it? There is no need for mass liquidation by FSG members. the inevestment is ticking along nicely and the opportunity cost is minimal with little stateside involvement.

 

sadly I agree. Lower cost increase revenue then flip us.

[thompsonsnose]

sadly I agree. Lower cost increase revenue then flip us.

 

To FSG, and to be fair, any other bunch of yanks, LFC are no different to a development of 3 bed condos on the upper east side.

There's NO emotion.

FSG are probably the best yank owners we could have attracted.

 

Under the current regime, Rodgers can continue to do good work, (remains to be seen) but every time we unearth a nugget, that nugget will eventually be sold. We then return to square one. And repeat.

 

I await our new, minted, Arabian overlords.

A quantum leap is needed. See Man City.

Its not alchemy and managerial nous.

 

Its possible that all the new TV money et al, will keep them interested for a good while yet, unfortunately.

 

All You Need Is Cash.

[Barrington Womble]

 

To FSG' date=' and to be fair, any other bunch of yanks, LFC are no different to a development of 3 bed condos on the upper east side.

There's NO emotion.

FSG are probably the best yank owners we could have attracted.

 

Under the current regime, Rodgers can continue to do good work, (remains to be seen) but every time we unearth a nugget, that nugget will eventually be sold. We then return to square one. And repeat.

 

I await our new, minted, Arabian overlords.

A quantum leap is needed. See Man City.

Its not alchemy and managerial nous.

 

Its possible that all the new TV money et al, will keep them interested for a good while yet, unfortunately.

 

All You Need Is Cash.[/quote']

 

To be honest I'd have expected them to check out the condo's more than they have us.

[piscinin]

To FSG, and to be fair, any other bunch of yanks, LFC are no different to a development of 3 bed condos on the upper east side.

There's NO emotion.

FSG are probably the best yank owners we could have attracted.

 

Under the current regime, Rodgers can continue to do good work, (remains to be seen) but every time we unearth a nugget, that nugget will eventually be sold. We then return to square one. And repeat.

 

I await our new, minted, Arabian overlords.

A quantum leap is needed. See Man City.

Its not alchemy and managerial nous.

 

Its possible that all the new TV money et al, will keep them interested for a good while yet, unfortunately.

 

All You Need Is Cash.

 

It's not as bleak as that. FSG aren't looking to make money from the club. They are looking to make money by selling access to the fans of the club. Their strategy is bigger, monetizing asia. Not just player trading like Arsenal.

 

If Rodgers can get the team performing to the levels you would expect given the level of investment, then the wash, rinse, repeat on players is entirely avoidable. But strides need to be made, baby steps will see us institutionalized out of the top 4.

[xerxes]

FSG aren't looking to make money from the club. .

 

I don't think that you have quite grasped the word "investment" here have you?

[piscinin]

I don't think that you have quite grasped the word "investment" here have you?

 

A far more likely scenario is that you've failed to grasp the dichotomy.

[xerxes]

A far more likely scenario is that you've failed to grasp the dichotomy.

 

There is no dichotomy in an investment club- they invest to make money.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

Come on, he clearly meant they're not looking to make a return from the everyday running of the club. At least in the short term, that's clearly the plan. Investment first means putting something in, which is what they're doing. The way they'll make money isn't by cutting a few quid from the wage bill, it's from building the club up to its potential and then selling it. It's the only real way to make a significant return on investment.

[piscinin]

There is no dichotomy in an investment club- they invest to make money.

 

The dichotomy is in the how not the what.

[Josef Svejk]

As owner of the Red Sox, buying the Globe is a wise move. Not that it's the only reason, obviously.

 

It's a shame Liverpool doesn't have a serious newspaper. He might be inclined to buy that, too...

[xerxes]

Come on, he clearly meant they're not looking to make a return from the everyday running of the club. At least in the short term, that's clearly the plan. Investment first means putting something in, which is what they're doing. The way they'll make money isn't by cutting a few quid from the wage bill, it's from building the club up to its potential and then selling it. It's the only real way to make a significant return on investment.

 

Coro claimed "FSG aren't looking to make money from the club." He was wrong.

 

I have no problem with the club being run for profit, we won't win anything, but neither will we disappear into the abyss of Administration.

 

In order to "build the club up" money needs to be spent on a new or redeveloped stadium. They have eschewed the former option, and have shown little progress in the latter.

 

I believe that the motivation of purchasewas not to invest significantly, but to run the club well and take windfall profits. They have succeeded in that by and large.

 

What FSG have actually "put in" subsequent to acquisition,and those terms, is unclear. the debt currently stands at around £90m.

 

it appears from the last accounts that some tens of millions of pounds were injected into the club. By whom, over what period, and on what terms is unknown.

 

I don't think that FSG are looking for a significant uplift in value by means of net investment, that is counter to their "risk averse" mantra, Seth Klarman would not allow it. Modest windfall growth in value is enough for them- but will not be enough for us fans.