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1 minute ago, Mudface said:

Yes, figures for hospitalisations and ICU occupancy numbers should be given also though as they give an indicator of where things may be a week or two's time. Scotland provide them daily, so the other home nations should too.


Is that different from “X amount were in hospital yesterday due to COVID19, today Y are in hospital due to COVID19” figure they give. 

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4 minutes ago, Anubis said:

621 UK hospital deaths today.


It isn’t.
 

There looks to be 458 in England, Wales & Scotland. Add in another dozen or so from NI, so say c.470.

 

The remaining c.150 is Care Homes.

 

I think. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Scott_M said:


Is that different from “X amount were in hospital yesterday due to COVID19, today Y are in hospital due to COVID19” figure they give. 

Is that in the press conference? I don't watch them anymore, just check the DHSC Tweets-

 

CORONAVIRUS: Daily update As of 9am 2 May, there have been 1,129,907 tests, with 105,937 tests on 1 May. 825,946 people have been tested of which 182,260 tested positive. As of 5pm on 1 May, of those tested positive for coronavirus, across all settings, 28,131 have sadly died.

 

This is how the Scottish figures are reported- https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/ I haven't seen anything similar for England.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Mudface said:

Is that in the press conference? I don't watch them anymore, just check the DHSC Tweets-


I don’t watch the pressers every day but they have mentioned it when I have watched it. Around the same point as testing and deaths. 

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1 hour ago, Scott_M said:

They need a better version of this graph. 
 

Hospital deaths and Care Home deaths need to be stacked bars.

 

There then needs to lines for rolling 7 day averages for total, hospital and Care Home deaths.

 

From what I’ve read, hospital deaths have been 400-500 all week. Terrible but improving. 
 

I know what is happening in Care Homes is tragic but I feel people in that situation are somewhat ring fenced anyway and don’t really impact the population who are employed and have bills / mortgages / businesses etc to service.

I’m not saying Care Homes are less important, they aren’t, I just feel that they should be reported as their own metric. 

 

If Care Home deaths remain high but hospital deaths are dropping significantly, if / when the advise of going back to work etc comes, then it needs to be clearly highlight that the general population is at less risk and therefore safer to go about the everyday lives. 
 

I’m not saying Care Homes are less important, they aren’t, I just feel that they should be reported as their own metric. 

 

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C’mon @lifetime fan, give me your in depth and insightful comments into why the MI shouldn’t be clearer?

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8 minutes ago, Scott_M said:


It isn’t.
 

There looks to be 458 in England, Wales & Scotland. Add in another dozen or so from NI, so say c.470.

 

The remaining c.150 is Care Homes.

 

I think. 

 

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Sorry, I didn’t read it properly on the website but it as across all venues. 

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5 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Sorry, I didn’t read it properly on the website but it as across all venues. 


Sorry if I sounded shitty. Unintentional.

 

I’ve put on the last page, the numbers aren’t clear - they need to be separate metrics.

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Good point just made on channel 4 news about what if people at these drive in test centres aren't doing their own tests properly. Showed a vid of someone gingerly putting it up their nose when in actual fact it's supposed to be halfway up your brain. All the tests in the world aren't gonna be effective if the tests are coming back false negatives.

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2 hours ago, TheHowieLama said:

Do they choose who gives those pressers by drawing a name out of the hat?

That would mean there was some kind of plan to it. Have you seen hells kitchen, where they all open the door at the end and only the winners door actually opens?

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17 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Good point just made on channel 4 news about what if people at these drive in test centres aren't doing their own tests properly. Showed a vid of someone gingerly putting it up their nose when in actual fact it's supposed to be halfway up your brain. All the tests in the world aren't gonna be effective if the tests are coming back false positives.

A doctor on Five Live before was saying that these swab tests are "operator dependant", in other words that the accuracy of the test would depend upon the skill and experience of the person administering the test.  What could go wrong...

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Good point just made on channel 4 news about what if people at these drive in test centres aren't doing their own tests properly. Showed a vid of someone gingerly putting it up their nose when in actual fact it's supposed to be halfway up your brain. All the tests in the world aren't gonna be effective if the tests are coming back false positives.

Preferably it's better someone doing it for you (who knows how to do it properly) to ensure its accurate and to ensure its not contaminated, as you'll get some daft twats getting all muddled up and cross contaminating it with a bag of wotsits (in the vulnerable group, unlike Worcestershire sauce french fries) on their passenger seat.

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14 minutes ago, TK421 said:

A doctor on Five Live before was saying that these swab tests are "operator dependant", in other words that the accuracy of the test would depend upon the skill and experience of the person administering the test.  What could go wrong...


Aren’t the tests now less invasive than the ones shared earlier in the thread? 

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