FSG are not shit

[Longview1982]

The consensus is Parry & Moores are boss for appointing Benitez.

 

That's a very relevant parallel with FSG and Klopp. 

 

Make 3 years of terrible decisions on transfers and strategy and then finally bring in some proper expertise.

[Longview1982]

FSG gave Rodgers all the money he wanted - they increasing the capacity of the ground and they have just brought Klopp in. What else do you want from them?

 

I'd prefer it if they didn't keep allowing our most important players to leave each summer.

 

I'd also prefer it if they got more than one major decision correct every 3 years.

[jimmycase]

I'd prefer it if they didn't keep allowing our most important players to leave each summer.

 

I'd also prefer it if they got more than one major decision correct every 3 years.

 

Players will move on all the time and we dont have a god given right to win anything even if some people do.

 

Its funny that for owners many people say are 'looking to sell' they continue to pour money into the club via the stadium development, new player transfers and wages.

[Russ Atmosphere]

Its funny that for owners many people say are 'looking to sell' they continue to pour money into the club via the stadium development, new player transfers and wages.

The club are paying for all that. The corporate seating improvements are funded by a loan that the club is paying back based on the increased match day revenue, and then possibly naming rights in the future.

[jimmycase]

The club are paying for all that. The corporate seating improvements are funded by a loan that the club is paying back based on the increased match day revenue, and then possibly naming rights in the future.

 

The owners have given the club the interest free loan to pay for the development. Stop making out the club has miraculously found a pot of money from under the bed.

[Russ Atmosphere]

The owners have given the club the interest free loan to pay for the development. Stop making out the club has miraculously found a pot of money from under the bed.

Yes it's a loan, as I clearly said.

[Cardie]

Yes it's a loan, as I clearly said.

Which is not proof that they want to sell or that they want to stay.

[Kevin D]

Can't see them being shit again until at least next Saturday tbh.

I didn't base my view on them over the last 20 games, which means I won't change it over the next 20.

 

There are long-standing systemic problems with their running of us, and Klopp doesn't change that, for me.

[Russ Atmosphere]

Which is not proof that they want to sell or that they want to stay.

I was responding only to the misleading 'pour money in' comment.

[jimmycase]

I was responding only to the misleading 'pour money in' comment.

 

Haha! You think giving a £150m interest free loan over (at least) a 5 year period isnt 'pouring money' into the club? You're one deluded fucker.

[Dave D]

I didn't base my view on them over the last 20 games, which means I won't change it over the next 20.

There are long-standing systemic problems with their running of us, and Klopp doesn't change that, for me.

Is there a set of owners in the Premiership that you would class as being good owners?

[jimmycase]

Is there a set of owners in the Premiership that you would class as being good owners?

 

The funny thingis with these people who say FSG arent good owners (no one's saying they are perfect, what owner is?) is they forget that pre david moores when Smith was the chairman and robinson the virtual CEO, the club was run on far stricter business lines.

 

The club didnt have much of an overdraft facility with the bank. Transfers were financed out of working capital and were not spread over 2 or 3 years. It was cash up front and if the club didnt have the cash, it didnt buy the player. Most of our transfer dealings were modest amounts compared to what other clubs were paying.

 

Now when the current owners give the club an interest fee loan of £150m, it isnt pouring money into the club. Instead its a 'loan' and the club 'pays for it.' well yes but first try getting a commercial loan for £150m in today's climate never mind one that is interest free over a 5 year period.

 

I love it when some people say these things about £150m. It shows how out of touch they are with finance never mind reality they really are.

[Captain]

Maybe they've learned their lesson, one can hope. This is a top appointment, we couldn't have asked for more.

 

It sounds like the transfer committee is effectively not a committee anymore either, which is also good news.

[Kevin D]

Is there a set of owners in the Premiership that you would class as being good owners?

Section_31 has a favourite Waffen SS division, so I suppose it's possible.

[TheHowieLama]

 

There are long-standing systemic problems with their running of us, 

 

Kinell pal, where you been?

[TheHowieLama]

Jimmy knows

EDit: Jimmy's nose.

[Jairzinho]

Jimmy knows

EDit: Jimmy's nose.

 

Edit: Ratcatcher doesn't know.

[TheHowieLama]

If Jimmy is the Ratcatcher I am Momo.

[Jairzinho]

Quite the admission.

[Bjornebye]

Ian Ayre is still in a job so as far as I am concerned they are still massive fucking shits. Klopp was a fan signing. They would have preferred Di Matteo or some other cunt. 

[Red Phoenix]

I didn't base my view on them over the last 20 games, which means I won't change it over the next 20.

 

There are long-standing systemic problems with their running of us, and Klopp doesn't change that, for me.

 

Ian Ayre is still in a job so as far as I am concerned they are still massive fucking shits. Klopp was a fan signing. They would have preferred Di Matteo or some other cunt. 

 

 

Are you two on the lemonade again?

[JermainePennant]

I'll wait to see how much the manager gets to spend before giving them any praise.Klopp is a good appointment from them but it wasn't the hardest decision make.

[xerxes]

giving a £150m interest free loan over (at least) a 5 year period isnt 'pouring money' into the club?

It was a prudent move. The extra ten thousand seats are projected to raise an extra £25m as so many of them will be additional premium seating (Expect the first £100 a seat tickets lads). That is £150m over six years, with naming rights that figure will be repaid much more quickly AND the value of the club will increase as a result.

 

Everyone's a winner. The Club benefits from an interest free loan, the loanees benefit from an enhanced value far greater than any interest they could have got from the money elsewhere.

 

Key FSG member Seth Klarman's definitive work is "Margin of Safety: Risk-Averse Value Investing Strategies for the Thoughtful Investor". The new stand development is pretty much a case study for that.

[Red Phoenix]

 

Key FSG member Seth Klarman's definitive work is "Margin of Safety: Risk-Averse Value Investing Strategies for the Thoughtful Investor". The new stand development is pretty much a case study for that.

 

I bet he had something to do with the Lovren signing.

[Bjornebye]

Are you two on the lemonade again?

You on the becks?