FSG are not shit

[3 Stacks]

It's fair to say my first impression was right. I also found your thought processes quite unusual.

 

Maybe you're slightly dislexic. After all you've basically been avoiding most of the facts I point out to you, so i'll make it simpler this time.

 

You: "FSG can't figure out rounders"

Me: "Yes they can, they have won titles"

You:"If they can't figure out rounders, how will they turn us around?"

Me: "One more time, you idiot, yes they can, but either way football and baseball can't be compared because the use of analytics is much more prevalent in baseball and clubs aren't run the same way."

 

If pointing out the fact they have been successful baseball owners and having the very logical asuumption that football and baseball are different make me an "apologist" then so be it. Notice I never explicitly said they have been good owners for Liverpool. I also said this: "FSG definitely deserve some blame, both in the running of the Red sox and Liverpool". Look's like its you that has been attributing points to me all along.

 

Also, you would find my thought processes quite unusual considering all you do is post articles you don't even understand and can't defend and then you contradict yourself with quotes like:

 

"I know next to nothing about baseball"

"Rounders is an American sport so easy to follow"

 

Yes, it must be weird when you see someone actually back up his own facts and doesn't throw up contradictory statements all the time.

[Jarvinja Ilnow]

So what you're saying is our owners also own a rounders team?

[Denny Crane]

Maybe you're slightly dislexic. After all you've basically been avoiding most of the facts I point out to you, so i'll make it simpler this time.

 

You: "FSG can't figure out rounders"

Me: "Yes they can, they have won titles"

You:"If they can't figure out rounders, how will they turn us around?"

Me: "One more time, you idiot, yes they can, but either way football and baseball can't be compared because the use of analytics is much more prevalent in baseball and clubs aren't run the same way."

 

If pointing out the fact they have been successful baseball owners and having the very logical asuumption that football and baseball are different make me an "apologist" then so be it. Notice I never explicitly said they have been good owners for Liverpool. I also said this: "FSG definitely deserve some blame, both in the running of the Red sox and Liverpool". Look's like its you that has been attributing points to me all along.

 

Also, you would find my thought processes quite unusual considering all you do is post articles you don't even understand and can't defend and then you contradict yourself with quotes like:

 

"I know next to nothing about baseball"

"Rounders is an American sport so easy to follow"

 

Yes, it must be weird when you see someone actually back up his own facts and doesn't throw up contradictory statements all the time.

 

Dyslexia is an inability to read not interpet maybe autistic was the wording you were looking for or some other developmental issue.

 

My position has been clear and I have posted evidence that supports this.

 

Fsg your lizard overlords have admitted themselves what they have done in the 3 of the last 4 years has not worked in baseball. Just for you I will post Henry's words below again. I'm unsure if you are aware of how a debate works or how people reference they post articles or supporting evidence. Your running commentary is anecdotal and attempting to argue points that the other side has not raised. I then posted how they had increased the wage paid to Price as one example of a change in strategy. 

 

You in-between suggested they had recruited players with poor character and a bad attitude. I also offered evidence of finishing last as many times in the past 4 seasons as they had done in the previous 71.

 

Henry.

 

"I spent at least two months looking under the hood, and I came to the conclusion we needed to make some changes,” said Henry, who also owns the Globe. “One of the things we've done — and I'm fully accountable for this — is we have perhaps overly relied on numbers, and there were a whole host of things. “We have a very hands-on president of baseball operations [Dave Dombrowski] and a general manager [Mike Hazen] who worked extremely well together. We have made significant changes. The biggest thing is players on the field have to perform.” ... “Perhaps there was too much reliance on past performance and trying to project future performance. That obviously hasn't worked in three of the last four years.”

 

Sounds pretty incompetent to me but fair play to him for his honesty.  

[Denny Crane]

Carefully note the word significant changes.

[DirkDiggledinho]

This fella seems to hold a different view of events to yourself from partway through the season last year.

 

The Red Sox are a myth, and the sooner folks understand this, the sooner ownership will be forced to address the hard truth.

 

The myth of the Sox is that they are some kind of perennial playoff contender. You know . . . three championships in 10 years.

 

Swell. But despite the hype, the highest prices in baseball, and the $200 million payroll, the Sox are no longer legitimate contenders. They are not a good team and they have not been a good team for quite some time.

 

 

On Tuesday, principal owner John Henry (who also owns the Globe) addressed the media and acknowledged that the Sox have underperformed this season, but he insisted that the postseason is within reach and that the jobs of manager John Farrell and general manager Ben Cherington are very safe.

 

“When you look at this team — and I tell you we’ve analyzed this team — this is a strong team,” said Henry. “They’ve just played not up to their capabilities.”

 

The Red Sox bottled some lightning in 2013, but clearly that was an outlier season, one that contributes to the ongoing phony narrative that the cutting-edge Sox are ahead of the curve and loaded with talent throughout the organization.

 

 

Wake up, people. Your baseball team is not smarter than all the other teams. Your farm system is not the best in the majors.

 

When the current season is over, the last-place Sox of today — who still claim they are all about October baseball — will have won a playoff game in only one of their last seven seasons. Your Red Sox are an aggregate 31 games under .500 (267-298) since Sept. 1, 2011. According to the Providence Journal, the 2015 Red Sox entered Tuesday as Boston’s worst baseball team since 1960 in the area of run differential — minus-48 after 51 games.

 

 

Despite these inconvenient truths, folks at the top continue to say that all is well. And rest assured the Sox soon will be OK because . . . you know . . . they are loaded with prospects.

 

Listen to the words of the owners when they arrived in Fort Myers, Fla., in late February. Asked to characterize the state of his franchise, Henry answered, “From my perspective, it’s never been better. I think we’re as strong throughout the organization as we’ve ever been.’’

 

This was on Feb. 24. This year.

 

“We have a strong commitment to winning,’’ added chairman Tom Werner. “We play for championships . . . It is our intention to play baseball in October every year.’’

 

Increasingly invisible Sox CEO Larry Lucchino (now “busy” with Rhode Island’s Triple A team and Boston’s 2024 Olympics bid) chimed in with, “We’re in it to win it, to win championships. If that means this kind of manic-depressive kind of course, maybe that’s not so terrible . . . We’re well prepared to be a successful franchise in the next several years.’’

 

Despite a second last-place finish in three years, everything was awesome going into this season. Wise guys in Vegas agreed, projecting the Sox to win 86.5 games, tops in the division.

 

National media folks gushed about the new Red Sox lineup and predicted another worst-to-first season for Boston. Sports Illustrated and USA Today picked the Sox to finish first in the AL East — which, of course, is still possible in the toxic landfill that the division has become.

 

Sox starting pitchers mocked the naysayers, wearing T-shirts that said, “He’s the ace,’’ and after Clay Buchholz outpitched Philadelphia’s Cole Hamels on Opening Day, Henry noted to a reporter that the Sox did indeed have an ace starter.

 

And now here we are again. Worst-to-first has become worst-to-worst.

 

It’s not that ownership and baseball ops are inattentive or lack effort. The team spends big buckets of money on the ball club, and Cherington and staff work as hard as any organization.

 

But many of the Red Sox’ current problems are still rooted in arrogance, NESN ratings (Messrs. Sandoval and Ramirez are looking like Crawford and Gonzalez from 2011), an insistence that an ace pitcher is not a good value, and a system philosophy that relies heavily on new metrics.

 

Much of this starts at the top.

 

We know all about ownership’s innovative philosophy on ace pitchers. Boston has determined that a big-money 30-year-old ace is not a high-yield commodity. You’re better off with five Joe Kellys and Rick Porcellos than one Jon Lester.

 

Turning their backs on arcane thinking (and 130 years of baseball history), the Sox are out to prove that a team does not need a true No. 1 starter. Instead, the organization chooses to live on the cutting edge of WAR, VORP, BABIP, DIPS, EqAS, and UZR.

 

OMG. LOL.

 

And let’s not forget “neuroscouting.’’

 

Alex Speier’s feature on Mookie Betts in the Globe in February informed us that the Red Sox partnered with a technology company to measure how fast a baseball brain works. They developed a proprietary SAT-like testing system to tell them who the good hitters might be. One of the Sox draftees who crushed the neuroscouting tests was Jackie Bradley Jr., who has batted .192 over parts of three big league seasons.

 

Talent evaluation is another area of growing concern, and that falls squarely on baseball ops. A lot of big contracts have been given to the wrong people, and it might be time for the Sox-loving world to stop perpetuating the fallacy of Boston’s amazing scouting and player development.

 

Sunday’s Boston Herald featured a two-page predraft feature headlined “Sox Talent-Rich Despite Spotty Drafting.’’ The piece reminded us once again that the Sox farm system is loaded. There’s a nationwide insistence that no Sox minor leaguers can be dealt to the Phillies for Hamels because the Sox are just too gosh-darned loaded with great prospects.

 

Please. Make it stop. Despite the Juan Bustabad rhetoric (look him up), the sad fact is that the Red Sox have not drafted and developed a big league starting pitcher or an All-Star position player since Buchholz and Jacoby Ellsbury were drafted by Theo Epstein 10 years ago.

 

It’s fitting that the Minnesota Twins are in town this week. The Twins share Fort Myers with the Red Sox, and we feel sorry for them all spring. The Red Sox get all the attention and have all the fans and are nationally acclaimed as the brilliant, big-money franchise, always ahead of everybody else. The poor Twins have no payroll, no star power, and no national following.

 

They also have a first-place team with the third-best record in the American League.

 

We have the Red Sox.

 

We have the myth.

 

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/06/02/truth-red-sox-just-aren-perpetual-playoff-contenders/eBnbTxjBchrdMu7iejWFYL/story.html#comments

I have no interest in baseball but it seems from that article that some in Boston are getting a bit sick of the whole Moneyballs scheme as well.

 

There is a grain of merit to it I think. But when you only buy young prospects who fit a certain profile and completely neglect to get some strong, established leaders you end up with a bunch of rudderless, clueless pushovers.

 

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[DirkDiggledinho]

This fella seems to hold a different view of events to yourself from partway through the season last year.

 

The Red Sox are a myth, and the sooner folks understand this, the sooner ownership will be forced to address the hard truth.

 

The myth of the Sox is that they are some kind of perennial playoff contender. You know . . . three championships in 10 years.

 

Swell. But despite the hype, the highest prices in baseball, and the $200 million payroll, the Sox are no longer legitimate contenders. They are not a good team and they have not been a good team for quite some time.

 

 

On Tuesday, principal owner John Henry (who also owns the Globe) addressed the media and acknowledged that the Sox have underperformed this season, but he insisted that the postseason is within reach and that the jobs of manager John Farrell and general manager Ben Cherington are very safe.

 

“When you look at this team — and I tell you we’ve analyzed this team — this is a strong team,” said Henry. “They’ve just played not up to their capabilities.”

 

The Red Sox bottled some lightning in 2013, but clearly that was an outlier season, one that contributes to the ongoing phony narrative that the cutting-edge Sox are ahead of the curve and loaded with talent throughout the organization.

 

 

Wake up, people. Your baseball team is not smarter than all the other teams. Your farm system is not the best in the majors.

 

When the current season is over, the last-place Sox of today — who still claim they are all about October baseball — will have won a playoff game in only one of their last seven seasons. Your Red Sox are an aggregate 31 games under .500 (267-298) since Sept. 1, 2011. According to the Providence Journal, the 2015 Red Sox entered Tuesday as Boston’s worst baseball team since 1960 in the area of run differential — minus-48 after 51 games.

 

 

Despite these inconvenient truths, folks at the top continue to say that all is well. And rest assured the Sox soon will be OK because . . . you know . . . they are loaded with prospects.

 

Listen to the words of the owners when they arrived in Fort Myers, Fla., in late February. Asked to characterize the state of his franchise, Henry answered, “From my perspective, it’s never been better. I think we’re as strong throughout the organization as we’ve ever been.’’

 

This was on Feb. 24. This year.

 

“We have a strong commitment to winning,’’ added chairman Tom Werner. “We play for championships . . . It is our intention to play baseball in October every year.’’

 

Increasingly invisible Sox CEO Larry Lucchino (now “busy” with Rhode Island’s Triple A team and Boston’s 2024 Olympics bid) chimed in with, “We’re in it to win it, to win championships. If that means this kind of manic-depressive kind of course, maybe that’s not so terrible . . . We’re well prepared to be a successful franchise in the next several years.’’

 

Despite a second last-place finish in three years, everything was awesome going into this season. Wise guys in Vegas agreed, projecting the Sox to win 86.5 games, tops in the division.

 

National media folks gushed about the new Red Sox lineup and predicted another worst-to-first season for Boston. Sports Illustrated and USA Today picked the Sox to finish first in the AL East — which, of course, is still possible in the toxic landfill that the division has become.

 

Sox starting pitchers mocked the naysayers, wearing T-shirts that said, “He’s the ace,’’ and after Clay Buchholz outpitched Philadelphia’s Cole Hamels on Opening Day, Henry noted to a reporter that the Sox did indeed have an ace starter.

 

And now here we are again. Worst-to-first has become worst-to-worst.

 

It’s not that ownership and baseball ops are inattentive or lack effort. The team spends big buckets of money on the ball club, and Cherington and staff work as hard as any organization.

 

But many of the Red Sox’ current problems are still rooted in arrogance, NESN ratings (Messrs. Sandoval and Ramirez are looking like Crawford and Gonzalez from 2011), an insistence that an ace pitcher is not a good value, and a system philosophy that relies heavily on new metrics.

 

Much of this starts at the top.

 

We know all about ownership’s innovative philosophy on ace pitchers. Boston has determined that a big-money 30-year-old ace is not a high-yield commodity. You’re better off with five Joe Kellys and Rick Porcellos than one Jon Lester.

 

Turning their backs on arcane thinking (and 130 years of baseball history), the Sox are out to prove that a team does not need a true No. 1 starter. Instead, the organization chooses to live on the cutting edge of WAR, VORP, BABIP, DIPS, EqAS, and UZR.

 

OMG. LOL.

 

And let’s not forget “neuroscouting.’’

 

Alex Speier’s feature on Mookie Betts in the Globe in February informed us that the Red Sox partnered with a technology company to measure how fast a baseball brain works. They developed a proprietary SAT-like testing system to tell them who the good hitters might be. One of the Sox draftees who crushed the neuroscouting tests was Jackie Bradley Jr., who has batted .192 over parts of three big league seasons.

 

Talent evaluation is another area of growing concern, and that falls squarely on baseball ops. A lot of big contracts have been given to the wrong people, and it might be time for the Sox-loving world to stop perpetuating the fallacy of Boston’s amazing scouting and player development.

 

Sunday’s Boston Herald featured a two-page predraft feature headlined “Sox Talent-Rich Despite Spotty Drafting.’’ The piece reminded us once again that the Sox farm system is loaded. There’s a nationwide insistence that no Sox minor leaguers can be dealt to the Phillies for Hamels because the Sox are just too gosh-darned loaded with great prospects.

 

Please. Make it stop. Despite the Juan Bustabad rhetoric (look him up), the sad fact is that the Red Sox have not drafted and developed a big league starting pitcher or an All-Star position player since Buchholz and Jacoby Ellsbury were drafted by Theo Epstein 10 years ago.

 

It’s fitting that the Minnesota Twins are in town this week. The Twins share Fort Myers with the Red Sox, and we feel sorry for them all spring. The Red Sox get all the attention and have all the fans and are nationally acclaimed as the brilliant, big-money franchise, always ahead of everybody else. The poor Twins have no payroll, no star power, and no national following.

 

They also have a first-place team with the third-best record in the American League.

 

We have the Red Sox.

 

We have the myth.

 

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/06/02/truth-red-sox-just-aren-perpetual-playoff-contenders/eBnbTxjBchrdMu7iejWFYL/story.html#comments

I have no interest in baseball but it seems from that article that some in Boston are getting a bit sick of the whole Moneyballs scheme as well.

 

There is a grain of merit to it I think. But when you only buy young prospects who fit a certain profile and completely neglect to get some strong, established leaders you end up with a bunch of rudderless, clueless pushovers.

 

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[3 Stacks]

I know what dyslexia is you fool, your problem isn't your misinterpretation of my posts, but rather the fact that you haven't addressed  them altogether. As a result, I assumed you simply aren't able to read them.

 

For example, I haven't denied they have made mistakes in the past few years. Those are facts, so why you repeatedly quote your original article is lost on me.

 

The reason i've spent so much of my time arguing with you is that you have one of the stupidest arguments I've ever seen. It basically boils down to this:

 

"FSG have recently made mistakes, therefore they don't know about rounders and can't turn us around."

 

That is literally akin to saying: "New Coke was a terrible mistake by Coca Cola, therefore they know nothing about making soft drinks."

 

So basically, you'll just ignore the unparalleled period of success the Red Sox have had under their ownership. 

 

This is why I keep mentionning that you are clueless. You just don't know the facts and how effective their methods have been in the past. If they are loosening up their methods after a few blunders that just shows they can adapt and aren't hard-headed.

 

The "significant changes" part is a gross exaggeration. They will simply rely slightly less on analytics. they aren't scrapping it altogether. In baseball, that would be suicide. 

[cloggypop]

FSG might not be shit but this thread is.

[Curly]

Some interesting stuff in here, which suggests that we are midway through a definite plan and it all makes me feel a lot more positive for the future.

 

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/mar/01/jurgen-klopp-overhaul-liverpool-accounts-mario-gotze

 

Liverpool have said that Jürgen Klopp will be given substantial funds to overhaul his squad this summer after the club’s latest accounts underlined the financial recovery under Fenway Sports Group.

 

The Anfield club have announced that revenue for the year ending 31 May 2015 increased 16.5% to a record £297.9m. This comprised media revenue increasing by 21.5% to £122.6m, mainly due to Champions League football and reaching two domestic cup semi-finals in 2014-15, commercial revenue rising 12% to £116.3m and match-day revenue increasing by 15.9% to £59m.

 

Profit before tax was £60m compared with £900,000 in 2013-14 but that figure was largely based on the sale of Luis Suárez to Barcelona in the summer of 2014 and has been reinvested in players such as Dejan Lovren, Adam Lallana, Emre Can, Lazar Markovic and Mario Balotelli. Notably, the accounts reveal Liverpool’s owners, FSG, converted £69m of historic inter-company debt into equity and invested £49m in the initial redevelopment of the Main Stand at Anfield.

 

The club’s net external debt stands at £47m compared to £237m when FSG acquired the club from Tom Hicks and George Gillett via the high court in 2010.

 

Ian Ayre, Liverpool’s chief executive, described the accounts as “a good set of numbers”. He said the financial growth, before a season that will bring record domestic broadcasting revenue and an increased capacity at Anfield, will support Klopp as he plans major improvements in the playing staff this summer.

 

Liverpool have said that Jürgen Klopp will be given substantial funds to overhaul his squad this summer after the club’s latest accounts underlined the financial recovery under Fenway Sports Group.

 

The Anfield club have announced that revenue for the year ending 31 May 2015 increased 16.5% to a record £297.9m. This comprised media revenue increasing by 21.5% to £122.6m, mainly due to Champions League football and reaching two domestic cup semi-finals in 2014-15, commercial revenue rising 12% to £116.3m and match-day revenue increasing by 15.9% to £59m.

 

Profit before tax was £60m compared with £900,000 in 2013-14 but that figure was largely based on the sale of Luis Suárez to Barcelona in the summer of 2014 and has been reinvested in players such as Dejan Lovren, Adam Lallana, Emre Can, Lazar Markovic and Mario Balotelli. Notably, the accounts reveal Liverpool’s owners, FSG, converted £69m of historic inter-company debt into equity and invested £49m in the initial redevelopment of the Main Stand at Anfield.

 

The club’s net external debt stands at £47m compared to £237m when FSG acquired the club from Tom Hicks and George Gillett via the high court in 2010.

 

Ian Ayre, Liverpool’s chief executive, described the accounts as “a good set of numbers”. He said the financial growth, before a season that will bring record domestic broadcasting revenue and an increased capacity at Anfield, will support Klopp as he plans major improvements in the playing staff this summer.

 

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Mario Balotelli, bought by Brendan Rodgers after the sale of Luis Suárez, is likely to be sold. Photograph: Javier Garcia/BPI/Rex

Bayern Munich’s Mario Götze, the Udinese midfielder Piotr Zielinski and Leicester City’s young left-back Ben Chilwell are all targets for a manager who has already recruited Schalke’s central defender Joël Matip and Red Star Belgrade’s playmaker Marko Grujic for next season. Klopp’s budget could be increased if he can offload Christian Benteke and Mario Balotelli, while Joe Allen and the out-of-contract Kolo Touré, José Enrique and João Teixeira could all exit.

 

“There has never been a situation where we haven’t backed the manager and there will be no difference with Jürgen as we move forward towards the summer,” said Ayre. “Those discussions will go on and we will do what we need to do on his guidance and contribution. Everyone can expect what they have always seen to date with the club which is to give the manager the support he needs.

 

“We are very fortunate in that everything we generate goes back into the team and you cannot spend any more than you generate and then some. We have seen in these results the owners have injected further cash into the business for our stadium and written off some money. The support is there as it has always been.”

 

Liverpool’s wage bill rose by £23m to £166m, the fifth highest in the Premier League and 55% of turnover. The £60m Suárez-fuelled profit, Ayre explained, went straight back into the transfer plans of the then manager, Brendan Rodgers, and not any other area of the business.

 

 

He added: “We aim to generate profits in this football club and, under these owners, to completely reinvest. Of course every time you make more profit you are going to invest more back. That was evident in these results as we made £60m and the money all went back into the squad last summer.

 

“There is no extraction of any of that profit in any form. The owners said in their note to fans about ticketing that that has been their process throughout. All they have done is put money in and not taken a penny out. That continues.

 

 

“There is no extraction of any of that profit in any form. The owners said in their note to fans about ticketing that that has been their process throughout. All they have done is put money in and not taken a penny out. That continues.

 

“The results show a massive growth in our retail infrastructure, with 180 new franchise or concession retail businesses around the world. When I joined in 2007 we had two shops in Liverpool. To say we are closer to 200 around the world shows the size of the business growing and that is so important to the long-term stability.”

 

The conversion into equity of £69m in debt, some inherited from the Hicks and Gillett era, raised a suggestion that FSG is clearing Liverpool’s books in order to sell. Ayre replied: “100% not. This is just cleaning up our balance sheet and supporting the club. Rather than someone pointing at a potential sale, they should be pointing to another level of commitment. The owners have been unwavering in their commitment. You only need to drive past Anfield and see the size of their commitment. It [the new Main Stand] is growing every day.”

 

Liverpool’s chief executive added: “They have invested continually, supported each manager and more recently invested a lot of money into the new stand to improve the stadium and bring that up to grade. I don’t see that changing. The recent issue on ticketing, while no one would have wished for it, is another example of being a special club with a special family.

 

“We might fall out sometimes and we might disagree but if you were at Wembley on Sunday everyone was together. The owners were there, the fans, the manager, the team; everybody is back getting on with it and moving forward. They were big enough to make the point we got something wrong and that is it. Their commitment is unwavering.”

[Nightcat]

Bollocks.

[Nightcat]

Profit before tax was £60m compared with £900,000 in 2013-14 but that figure was largely based on the sale of Luis Suárez to Barcelona in the summer of 2014 and has been reinvested in players such as Dejan Lovren, Adam Lallana, Emre Can, Lazar Markovic and Mario Balotelli. 

 

The article says that the profit announced for the year ending in May 2015 shows £60m profit, which was allegedly reinvested to sign Markovic and the rest of the clowns. But the clowns were all signed in summer 2014.

 

So Bollocks.

[TheHowieLama]

A fiscal year ending in May of 2015 would include the summer of 2014 dumbshit

[eeyore]

Won't look so good when we eventually take massive losses on selling all the clowns post suarez

[Nightcat]

A fiscal year ending in May of 2015 would include the summer of 2014 dumbshit

The article implies that the year 2015 ends in May with a 60M profit which was though reinvested in the following summer to sign Lolvren, Markovic et al. you utter shithead. But those clowns were signed the summer before, in 2014. Do you get that now?

[ZonkoVille77]

I don't know what any of this means

[ngogswilly]

Par for the course from FSG. 

 

We just lost a cup final and over the next few days theres an onslaught of articles trying to promote some happy positive picture.

 

Anytime theres any disappointing scenario like defeats to big rivals or missing out on players we had clearly targetted theres always a PR offensive that follows.

 

I don't actually doubt FSG will spend in the summer, I just hope theres a coherent strategy to the spending and no fucking about, i.e. We Identify our targets and fucking pay whats required to get them without spending the summer dicking about pretending we won't like with Benteke. 

[Nightcat]

I hope we go through the EL round, otherwise the FSG bollocks PR machine will be set on overdrive.

[Tony Moanero]

Nighty,

 

yer ma.

 

Tony

[Jairzinho]

I don't know what any of this means

 

Very little.

[TheHowieLama]

The article implies that the year 2015 ends in May with a 60M profit which was though reinvested in the following summer to sign Lolvren, Markovic et al. you utter shithead. But those clowns were signed the summer before, in 2014. Do you get that now?

 

There have been some truly dim fuckers on these boards over the years,,, yeah, truly dim....they are putting any proceeds back in - so the 2013  proceeds paid for the clowns, hence 900k for that year -- so the "profit" in 2014 is Suarez (actually less about 10m) which is exactly what has been stated and made public.

 

Walk us through one more time how they are funneling agent fees to themselves umkay. Remember the 14 mil?

[TheHowieLama]

Won't look so good when we eventually take massive losses on selling all the clowns post suarez

 

But you know how transfers are amortized so in fact those aren't losses - so win-win...

[Denny Crane]

I don't know what any of this means

Somewhere in the US of A there are lots of Red Sox supporters saying we are fucking shite and I support the Boston Red Sox not Moneyballs Red Sox.

[Curly]

yer ma

 

Never heard of the cunt

[bonesman]

“We obviously did some due diligence on the playing squad during this process before we closed on the transaction in the middle of October of 2010,” said Weiss, as he admitted that FSG watched just one Liverpool match before purchasing the club.

[TheHowieLama]

#daytrippers