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It's more likely a case of spiking cyanide with beans.

The degrees of separation are decreasing all too rapidly. Stay safe everyone.

I hardly think that this is the place for Coronavirus information. Take it to the Dianne Abbott thread!

I'm not defending stuff she's said, but she isn't the same as any other politician/public figure. The level of scrutiny and vitriol she receives is completely different to the vast majority of other politicians/public figures. She's a fucking abysmal choice to be in a shadow cabinet, in my opinion. She sticks her foot in it too much, saying things that are either unacceptable or extremely likely to be deemed unacceptable. But stuff like the error with the figures she made led to her being ridiculed relentlessly by the media which in turn translated to public opinion, despite the fact the majority of politicians have made similar gaffs. Labour really should just keep her out of the public eye though. She's by all accounts very good at constituency work.

Fucking state of these two semi finals.

OR

Michael Rosen, children’s author, has spent a night in the ICU. Now stable in a ward so hopefully he pulls through. Always seems a good egg on Twitter.

Just heard that one of my best mates is in intensive care at the JR in Oxford. His sister says he's got 2 days to respond to treatment or it's over. He's 41 with an 10 year old daughter

Almost as if someone advised him not to tell them his name.

Glad to see the Bee Gees back together.

Maybe they got TK's order by mistake.

If only there were a supranational organisation we could be a member of to keep this sort of thing in check.

It's a good job Brexit has destroyed them and rendered them an irrelevant political force.

Maybe she’ll add you again when this has all blown over.

Amen, Comrade!

I get those things may be the case mate, but they’re not worse than dying. They’re just not. In terms of this virus existing and spreading, it is what it is. It’s here now and we need to react in the best, most pragmatic way possible to stop it. In my opinion it (COVID-19) needs to be shown the greatest of respect and mitigated/avoided at all costs. Similar to how if an uncontrollable fire was burning through your neighbourhood, you wouldn’t stand in its path for fear the government were being handed a charter to force people from their homes in future non-lethal circumstances. Are we woefully unprepared for it? Yep. Has the way our society and especially health service have been run down in particularly the past 10 years contributed to that? Absolutely. Is a serious period of reflection then transformation required domestically and globally, to find a better way to live with and care about what happens to one another, so people aren’t so vulnerable and greater focus is given to value and quality of life than cost? 100%. Unfortunately though, at the moment we just need to stem the bleeding. However dystopian the risk of losing things we currently enjoy as staples of our normal life may be. Obviously all only my personal view. I get others have their own opinions, so apologies if I’m being self-righteous. Watching the relative degradation of our health service up close under normal circumstances for a very long time and then seeing the devastating affects of this in other countries has just got to me when I think about what is highly likely-inevitable to be coming. Apart from everything else there is to consider on the human cost side, having the remarkable souls who man our NHS effectively used as cannon-fodder is turning my stomach.

We’ve just been told that a colleagues wife has died of it.

I think the most sane way to handle all of this is do exactly the opposite of anything that comes out of Harry Kanes mouth

Ah, the newbies. When you miss first 300 pages in a thread.

What is Italy’s median age? Asking for a friend.

You'll become ambi dextrose.

Completed Resident Evil: Code Veronica without dying once.

I said that I could assure you that it isn't easy. And yes, I'm well educated. Not that it means all that much. Many people who go through Russel Group or Ivy League educations are thick as pig shit. Ah, flippancy. What an endearing quality. You've done this 'say a thing and hope it sticks' thing a few times. I'll just calmly say no, it's not Daily Mail links. Now, you can wave that away as me swallowing what the media say, but it's Dianna Abbott doing the talking. I'm not the one being obtuse, it's just that the point you were alluding too but wouldn't say is ridiculous and doesn't make any sense. Oh, for fuck sake. Now who is swallowing what they're told. That was her excuse, but as it was quickly pointed out to her, she used it regarding the Stephen Lawrence case. This isn't, as she tried to claim with lies, a reference to 'British Empire' or 'Colonialism'. There is some other context that I'd like to give you though, which is that had Labour won the election, she would have been in charge of MI5, counter terrorism, the police, etc. I'm not going to apologise for thinking she's an absolute shambles on that scale just because she's a black woman. Her being a black woman means nothing to me, her being competent means a lot to me. Just as it does with Johnson and Osborne. Not from me she doesn't. The question was asked. You don't seem to like the answer. That's fair enough. The only reason I piped up was because you tried to defend her character and ability with her race and gender. That's out of line, in my opinion. You can very well dislike Dianne Abbott without being a racist or misogynist, just as you can accept she does good community work without wanting her to be in charge of MI5 or, you know, basic arithmetic. \ As for yelling into the void... well, yeah, I'm going to respond. You don't have to, which will make it stop. If you reply again, especially by calling me obtuse and implying I can't think for myself, then I'll probably respond. If you don't, I won't.

Bit harsh on Phil Thompson. Oh, got you.

I've said for a few weeks in this country we were 100% ploughing into herd immunity, being the only country to talk about it. Then we were widely slaughtered and ridiculed by international scientists about the policy, so they knew for their "optics" they had to back away. So we carried on regardless and just stopped calling it herd immunity. Listen to any press conference each day and they continually mention about it was always their plan to put the right measures in at the right time. The plan has never changed. The imposition of restrictions was always planned to happen, but happen when enough of us have it so it runs through the population through the spring and summer. The only thing that has fucked that plan is how long people are spending in hospital, so while we had the chance early on to buy more ventilators, PPE and prepare these temporary hospitals, we thought we didn't need them, so the government sat on their hands patting each other on the backs on how much money they'd saved. That worked well. But I think you're 100% correct, the government are aiming for just about everyone to catch this.

As it would be with anyone else. The difference is that for her it was in the press for a month, and is still occasionally in the press as a joke now. This isn't the same for other ministers, of any party. There simply wasn't much of an aftermath to handle for anyone else. Michael Gove botched the figures several times during an interview in the run up to the 2017 election. It no longer is in the public conscious. Phillip Hammond did the same. Dawn Butler did last year. Countless other examples, but the "minister that fucked up the numbers" example is always Diane Abbott. Because she got crucified and the others didn't.

You are spectacularly missing the point It doesnt matter what good she does, she is a politician in public office and therefore fair game for piss taking and ridicule, just like any other politician, when she does something to warrant it, which she did. You want her to be different, shes not shes the same as any other politician/public figure. Just because you like or admire her doesnt make her immune.

I think its a similar,but not entirely the same situation as say has recently happened with Trump in America. Two fellas,one white and one black could work together and socialise together yet the white guy goes and votes for Trump while the black guy sees all the language Trump uses about Mexicans as the same stuff previously used about African Americans. Its been used on Jews,Arabs and so on in the past and is used to dehumanise certain communities of people into unimportant and a subhuman species yet the White fella just shrugs it off as he maybe from a community where he believes he hasnt experienced this.Transpose this to what has been said and done about Scousers and Merseyside over the years,particularly in the last 40/50 years and you will see a similar situation. Merseysiders and LFC fans see what the black guy sees and outsiders simply shrug.

Who are those two guys in the red coat to Phil Thompson's left?

Well...

She is a highly accomplished Cambridge graduate, from an impoverished background, who literally fought her way to the top. She has done a fuckload of good for this country, Hackney, and countless families and indivuduals that she serves, and that is what she would call it. She's who we should celebrate, not vilify. Oh, sorry, she had a bad day on radio once, I forgot. Looks like you bought in to the Tory rag narrative and don't have any critical faculties which allow you to sort the fact from fiction. Any cunt who has a go at Abbott is a genuine cunt who has had the wool pulled over their eyes by their 'betters'. Fuck off.

I'm convinced our government wants the virus to spread widely. They've known from the start how infectious and harmful it is and they've given the public enough slack to increase the chances of infection.

Thanks for the good will gestures. I also have a blood clot on each lung, which I'm on anti-coagelants for which was terrifying when they told me but they said it's very treatable and the Drs aren't concerned. In some ways the Covid could have saved me as I would never have known about the blood clots on my lungs and would have been a ticking time bomb. I'm a bit up and down but can't fault the hospital staff, they've been nothing but compassionate, attentive and professional. This infection is definitely no joke. I'm 33 and it's absolutely fucked me over. These idiots not following the guidelines don't realise the implications of what this can do to you, it's most certainly not just a bit of 'flu'.

A load of cunts broke into my sons school last night. It's a disabled kids school in Kirkby but these cunts thought it would be fine to vandalise the garden the kids have been working on with their teachers as well as stealing all the gardening equipment from the shed. The school bus was also stolen just before Christmas. I hope they get Aids as well as the Coronavirus.

Go and see my disabled mother and give her a cuddle.