Donald Trump

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... oh, and I should add, you sexist pig, @Pistonbroke

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PS.  TLW in no way endorses the objectification of women. 

[Guest Pistonbroke]

Just now, skaro said:

 

No, please continue....

 

 

 

One of the pluses of Covid mate. There's loads of them underway due to the Gym's being closed, and as you know we have a huge Park that more or less runs the width of the City. Walking the dog is far better of late. 

[SasaS]

17 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

His freedom of speech hasn't been impinged upon. The tweet about postal voting was posted. He's had his opinion voiced. In the interests of not wanting to be a platform that is seen as subverting democracy, Twitter have seen that a high profile politician is using their platform to potentially lie about the democratic process for their own benefit and, having left the tweet up, have posted a link to an alternative source of information on the subject discussed so that a balanced view has been offered and users csn make their minds up with access to ALL the information. 

 

His tweet about shooting looters is also still up. He's spoken. He's had his say. But, in doing so, he may have breached a condition of the platform he's decided to use to voice his views and that platform has hidden the content of his tweet, which can still be read by clicking on the warning. He's been subject to the terms and conditions of use and the consequences of breaching those conditions that every Twitter user accepts. If he thinks he's above the Twitter policies, he's always welcome to use another privately owned platform. But he'll be subject to their conditions of use too. 

Except he has not just signed up, he has been posting shit for years and "breaching their conditions" as did thousands of other users of all political and other ilk and denominations that are probably under Twitter's radar. It's clearly deliberate that they are now deciding to target his posts, so they are using it as a weapon. Don't know what was going on behind the scenes, but they have now suddenly remembered their terms and conditions. They are using it as a (probably) political weapon and I think this is wrong. Because tomorrow they, or Facebook, or whoever are going to use it against somebody else.

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1 minute ago, Pistonbroke said:

 

One of the pluses of Covid mate. There's loads of them underway due to the Gym's being closed, and as you know we have a huge Park that more or less runs the width of the City. Walking the dog is far better of late. 

 

I negged you, just to be politically correct.  No offence, G.

 

Could one of you sexist pigs do the honours and redress the balance with a green arrow?

 

 

[Guest Pistonbroke]

1 minute ago, skaro said:

 

I negged you, just to be politically correct.  No offence, G.

 

 

None taken. Cunt...

[Rico1304]

2 minutes ago, SasaS said:

Except he has not just signed up, he has been posting shit for years and "breaching their conditions" as did thousands of other users of all political and other ilk and denominations that are probably under Twitter's radar. It's clearly deliberate that they are now deciding to target his posts, so they are using it as a weapon. Don't know what was going on behind the scenes, but they have now suddenly remembered their terms and conditions. They are using it as a (probably) political weapon and I think this is wrong. Because tomorrow they, or Facebook, or whoever are going to use it against somebody else.

Is it more biased than a tv station choosing to fact check his bollocks?  Just because he’s got away with it until now doesn’t mean they can’t now.  Questions may be asked if it’s going to cut both ways, ie when people on the left spout bollocks.  But it’s their product.  If a few mentalists, decide to leave I doubt jack will care. 

[Jose Jones]

1 minute ago, SasaS said:

Except he has not just signed up, he has been posting shit for years and "breaching their conditions" as did thousands of other users of all political and other ilk and denominations that are probably under Twitter's radar. It's clearly deliberate that they are now deciding to target his posts, so they are using it as a weapon. Don't know what was going on behind the scenes, but they have now suddenly remembered their terms and conditions. They are using it as a (probably) political weapon and I think this is wrong. Because tomorrow they, or Facebook, or whoever are going to use it against somebody else.

It is a fair point that Trump has been lying on twitter for years, but maybe he hasn’t lied so obviously about the democratic process before?

Or been so inciting of violence before?

Maybe there are examples to prove otherwise?

 

I also think we’re well past the point of social media being needed to be treated as publishers. It’s a fucking shit show and they should be liable for letting known and anonymous users publish all sorts of untruths.

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9 minutes ago, SasaS said:

Except he has not just signed up, he has been posting shit for years and "breaching their conditions" as did thousands of other users.... .... but they (Twitter) have now suddenly remembered their terms and conditions. 

 

As clear a Nazi as you are, SasaS, there is almost an immutable socially-just truth to this

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Jose Jones said:

It is a fair point that Trump has been lying on twitter for years, but maybe he hasn’t lied so obviously about the democratic process before?

Or been so inciting of violence before?

Maybe there are examples to prove otherwise?

 

I also think we’re well past the point of social media being needed to be treated as publishers. It’s a fucking shit show and they should be liable for letting known and anonymous users publish all sorts of untruths.

 

Which is why them trying to pull up Trump now - and the warning/reprimand being taken seriously, or as sincerity - is, well, fucking risible.

 

 

[Section_31]

Watch the vid. Mental.

 

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/29/us/minneapolis-cnn-crew-arrested/index.html

 

 

A CNN crew has been arrested while covering Minneapolis protests

[Bjornebye]

17 minutes ago, Pistonbroke said:

 

I actually don't mate, unless someone on here posts about it or a mate sends me an interesting link to a reputable tweeter. I prefer the birds that visit our garden.....or the cute ones with fit bodies who jog in the park with those skin tight Lycra.....better stop there. 

Pistons milkshake brings all the birds to the yard 

[Guest Pistonbroke]

I doubt that order Trump has signed will make it past the legal challenges. He's just giving more ammunition to those who know he's a petulant cunt, especially those outside of the USA. 

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12 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Is it more biased than a tv station choosing to fact check his bollocks?  Just because he’s got away with it until now doesn’t mean they can’t now.  Questions may be asked if it’s going to cut both ways, ie when people on the left spout bollocks.  But it’s their product.  If a few mentalists, decide to leave I doubt jack will care. 

 

Twitter's right to disingenuousness and hypocrisy is sacred.

 

[SasaS]

5 minutes ago, Jose Jones said:

It is a fair point that Trump has been lying on twitter for years, but maybe he hasn’t lied so obviously about the democratic process before?

Or been so inciting of violence before?

Maybe there are examples to prove otherwise?

 

I also think we’re well past the point of social media being needed to be treated as publishers. It’s a fucking shit show and they should be liable for letting known and anonymous users publish all sorts of untruths.

Welcome to the planet Earth Mr. Jones. You didn't pick the best moment to visit, but do enjoy your stay.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

9 minutes ago, SasaS said:

Except he has not just signed up, he has been posting shit for years and "breaching their conditions" as did thousands of other users of all political and other ilk and denominations that are probably under Twitter's radar. It's clearly deliberate that they are now deciding to target his posts, so they are using it as a weapon. Don't know what was going on behind the scenes, but they have now suddenly remembered their terms and conditions. They are using it as a (probably) political weapon and I think this is wrong. Because tomorrow they, or Facebook, or whoever are going to use it against somebody else.

Re: the fact checked post, the policy was only brought in in March 2020. Twitter introduced a Civic Integrity Policy stating that they will provide an alternative/additional context to tweets relating to the 2020 Presidential Election which contain "synthetic or manipulated media."

 

I agree that they shouldn't have tolerated his past shit either. But, he's breached a new policy. Action has been taken. His opinion can still be seen. There's no issue. Twitter are a commercial entity. If they don't want to have their reputation damaged as being seen as a platform which allows politicians to spread incorrect information, they're entitled to take steps to do that. Trump can always set up his own website if he wants a platform to post misleading claims, without clarification. 

[Guest Pistonbroke]

5 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Watch the vid. Mental.

 

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/29/us/minneapolis-cnn-crew-arrested/index.html

 

 

A CNN crew has been arrested while covering Minneapolis protests

 

Madness. They didn't even recognise what the reporters were saying and gave no reason as to why they were being arrested, mmm.  'Land of the Free' my arse. 

[Bobby Hundreds]

There's a video of the protests and some white guy all in black with a hood up and gas mask on starts smashing store windows with hammer and then walks off with an umbrella up. Undoubtedly a copper.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

8 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Pistons milkshake brings all the birds to the yard 

 

Or in the case of the birds that visit our garden it's my seed. 

[Bjornebye]

3 minutes ago, Pistonbroke said:

 

Or in the case of the birds that visit our garden it's my seed. 

 

 

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The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

 

I reckon Trump is the apotheosis of this saying in the modern world.

 

Even an evil shit show like Twitter - the sort of place that allows public bullying and nastiness that would make people jump off bridges - suddenly becomes Florence Nightingale because it calls out one of Trump's 4 billion lies, for which it has, hitherto, arguably been the world's foremost platform.

 

 

[Section_31]

Do genuinely wonder if America needs an external bad guy in order to succeed. It's got so many different groups of people, races, outlooks, religions, what binds them together is a flag and an exterior villain. You had the Commies for fifty years, a brief interlude and then Bin Laden. Trump has tried to stoke the China thing but most people aren't falling for it because their food is too nice and they make iPhones. Take that grout away though and what happens to the cinder blocks. 

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Just now, Section_31 said:

Do genuinely wonder if America needs a bad guy to succeed. It's got so many different groups of people, races, outlooks, religions, what binds them together is a flag and an exterior bad guy. You had the Commies for fifty years, a brief interlude and then Bin Laden. Trump has tried to stoke the China thing but most people aren't falling for it because their food is too nice and they make iPhones. Take that grout away though and what happens to the cinder blocks. 

 

As some have said, if you want the best person for the job, democracy isn't the answer.

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Pistonbroke said:

 

Or in the case of the birds that visit our garden it's my seed. 

 

I'd have thought that a province jealously guarded by Anna, G.

 

 

[SasaS]

20 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

Re: the fact checked post, the policy was only brought in in March 2020. Twitter introduced a Civic Integrity Policy stating that they will provide an alternative/additional context to tweets relating to the 2020 Presidential Election which contain "synthetic or manipulated media."

 

I agree that they shouldn't have tolerated his past shit either. But, he's breached a new policy. Action has been taken. His opinion can still be seen. There's no issue. Twitter are a commercial entity. If they don't want to have their reputation damaged as being seen as a platform which allows politicians to spread incorrect information, they're entitled to take steps to do that. Trump can always set up his own website if he wants a platform to post misleading claims, without clarification. 

I can only welcome their intention to fact check and provide alternative view on everything which will be said in the 2020 election, but somehow I doubt they will be able to do that.  

 

On the violence inducing tweet, as far as I can see from the media, they first blocked it than made it visible in the public interest or something. And that is sort of my point, it is not their role to block stupid or harmful stuff US President comes up with, public should know what Trump is saying (tweeting). It's up to the public to react. The problem is not so much that you are effectively de-platforming the US President, the problem is that you have the US President that you feel needs de-platforming.  And it shouldn't be Twitter's decision, the public has a right to know he wrote that tweet and be able to see it.