Summer 2011

[Whelan]

Downing won 3 awards at their presentation evening on Monday. The Villa players all rate him really highly. That's a good indication if his ability for me as well.

 

Other than 'best player' i would think that the relevance is pretty slight for the other two!

 

As I say, using this seasons performance as a barometer is very dangerous, this is a Villa side that is still not clear or relegation.

[moof]

One dimensional, limited, average, occasionally overrated, wide midfielders, of a similar age, who have found there level at mid table clubs.

 

I assume you're going by what everyone else says, without actually watching him yourself?

[Guest PurpleNose]

I assume you're going by what everyone else says, without actually watching him yourself?

 

Yes. Never seen Downing play.

[moof]

Yes. Never seen Downing play.

 

Thought not.

[Brownie]

 

Other than 'best player' i would think that the relevance is pretty slight for the other two!

 

As I say, using this seasons performance as a barometer is very dangerous, this is a Villa side that is still not clear or relegation.

 

They all count and 2 of them were big awards - Players Player and Fans Player. Not sure what the performance of the whole team has to do with his individual performances. Villa have been shit but he's been really good.

[Guest PurpleNose]

Bit fucking rich, that.

[Seemann]

Downing would walk through fire to play for us - I don't think that's the case with Young as he would have more options.

 

I'm warming to the idea of Downing, but surely we need at least 2 more attacking players. If Kenny is hooked on Downing then why not, really. He would know what we need.

[moof]

Bit fucking rich, that.

 

You started it!

[Whelan]

They all count and 2 of them were big awards - Players Player and Fans Player. Not sure what the performance of the whole team has to do with his individual performances. Villa have been shit but he's been really good.

 

Look at the thread resurected this week on Murphy winning Player of the year in 2003, the criticism was that his performance was skewed by the poor performance of the team. I am not sure that given Villa's performances this season that his individual contribution towards a team that has been battling relegation should be taken as proof of his ability!

 

I don't think he will sign anyway, I think Young is leaving and therefore Downing will not.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

If Downing is so unremarkable i'm interested to hear what you think makes Young a world class player? Pace?

 

Well, if you tell me where I called Young a 'world class player', or anything like it, then I'll be happy to back argument up to the hilt, moofster.

[Brownie]

 

Look at the thread resurected this week on Murphy winning Player of the year in 2003, the criticism was that his performance was skewed by the poor performance of the team. I am not sure that given Villa's performances this season that his individual contribution towards a team that has been battling relegation should be taken as proof of his ability!

 

I don't think he will sign anyway, I think Young is leaving and therefore Downing will not.

 

It could easily be the other way around mate with Downing getting a move and Young having to stay there.

[WhiskeyJar]

I absolutely value that opinion. I don't agree with you on this, but that's fine. Do you think he's going to bring 15-20m worth of improvement to the team?

Personally, I think we'll be talking about him in the same way we've talked about Cole, Pennent, Bellamy, Keane and the rest.

 

What if I told you that he had the potential to become that player?

Is Andy Carroll a 35 million rated player today??

[WhiskeyJar]

Awesome. Food is a great metaphor for erratic, performance based sports.

 

I thought so too.

[18-5]

Tommo86 saying that Cahill and Young are the ones he would put money on.

 

Interest in Jurado it seems. Don't know who the fuck he is.

[Josef Svejk]

Altintop linked by Sky Sports. Free transfer. Also linked with Real Madrid.

 

Good player, him...

[JesseRawlins]

Tommo86 saying that Cahill and Young are the ones he would put money on.

 

Interest in Jurado it seems. Don't know who the fuck he is.

 

Spanish guy,plays for Schalke

[James Dean]

I think I trust Dave over "Tommo over on RAWK".

[James Dean]

Anyone seen this brazilian centre half at FC Köln? German mate of mine is raving about him.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

What if I told you that he had the potential to become that player?

Is Andy Carroll a 35 million rated player today??

 

Andy Carroll is 12* Stewart Dowing is 54*, and that makes a big difference. I Think Carroll was at least 15m too much, but at least he's just turned 22. By the time Downing starts the season, he'll be 27. Downing and 'potential' are a bit far fetched in my opinion.

 

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Edited May 14, 2011 by Numero Veinticinco

[George Costanza]

IMO Downing would be an ok signing but he's not the wide/attacking player we really need.

 

I still can't get the potential comparison from what Kenny is trying for now & what we had in 87. In that regards Downing would be a left sided Ray Houghton, but we are still a 'Barnes' short of really challenging for the title next season.

[RED.DUB]

Downing is not good enough for us so I doubt were even after him.

[The Chef]

Word is the King and Commoli are in Dublin checkin out a 15 year old St. Kevin's striker called Alex Hanlon. Deal to be finalised on Monday for 1.5m.

 

The Russians were also in for him .....

[lamai]

not sure on downing last few seasons everybody was saying he was shite, he has one good season and now we need him. He would need to keep doing what he is doing this season otherwise he would be another waste of time. I would be looking elsewhere. We will pay over the odds as he has played one good season

[Pidge]

Alex O'Hanlon. Real were apparently looking at him. Surely not 1.5m for a 15 year old?

 

young fella - Real Madrid - You Boys in Green Forum - Page 1

[moof]

Stop putting Young and Downing in the same sentence. Young is a very good player, Downing isn't. Downing isn't better than what we have now.

 

The only thing I can see Young has that Downing hasn't is excessive pace.

 

Earlier in the thread you were saying we should only sign world class players because otherwise we won't catch United and Chelsea. I'd rather a balanced side that works it's socks off and is completely committed to Kenny and LFC.

 

When we were eating up trophies in the 70's and 80's we didn't have teams full of individual superstars, rather confident teams that trusted each other completely and had a work rate that was unrivalled. Of course there was always a few exceptional individuals but it's more important to build a team on honest-hard working values than individual flair. IMO.

 

Downing would fit into that idea better than Young.