January 2023 Transfer Thread

[Jairzinho]

Just now, TD_LFC said:

So at what point do we question the management decision to spend 140/190 million on attackers and no midfielders, or is it just too inconvenient?

 

I think his main error has been a lack of ruthlessness regarding those he has in midfield. I, unlike you, am not a fan of FSG. However, they can say to him "you've got about eight of the fuckers". It's been said a million times, but last summer (and the one before...) we needed to start fucking off those that don't have a future here.

[Carvalho Diablo]

26 minutes ago, MegadriveMan said:

Fabinho back on form plus Arthur Melo and Bajcetic do have the potential to make a difference. 

 

But even saying that, not signing a midfielder now seems like a huge mistake.

Nobody should be relying upon Fabinho coming back to make a difference, he's been shite for ages now and shows nothing to suggest that now the WC is out of the way that he will somehow magically be transformed.

 

He might be the least bad of a very bad bunch but that shouldn't give any of us any reassurance.

[HBenn]

23 minutes ago, TD_LFC said:

So at what point do we question the management decision to spend 140/190 million on attackers and no midfielders, or is it just too inconvenient?

Probably the same time we realise that they needed to do that and the midfield and spreading it over the last 3 years from a position of strength may have been a cheaper and more effective approach. 

 

 

[TD_LFC]

Maybe I should make the question simpler.

 

If we have a set budget is spending it on 3 players who can occupy similar positions on the pitch with a 4th already at the club the priority over strengthening another position given the outcry for the need to strengthen other positions.

[Megadrive Man]

12 minutes ago, TD_LFC said:

Maybe I should make the question simpler.

 

If we have a set budget is spending it on 3 players who can occupy similar positions on the pitch with a 4th already at the club the priority over strengthening another position given the outcry for the need to strengthen other positions.

 

I think we are hoping that Gakpo will have the same sort of impact that Diaz had last January.

 

We are going to try and outscore teams.

 

In terms of players available we only had two forwards in Salah and Nunez, whereas we have most of our midfielders available, so it makes sense from that perspective.

 

I get the feeling that the injuries to Diaz and Jota are worse than feared.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

17 minutes ago, TD_LFC said:

Maybe I should make the question simpler.

 

If we have a set budget is spending it on 3 players who can occupy similar positions on the pitch with a 4th already at the club the priority over strengthening another position given the outcry for the need to strengthen other positions.

 

[TD_LFC]

Wasn't simple enough.

 

If only have 37 million to spend should spend 37 million on scorey player or passy player.?

[DJLJ]

49 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

 

I think his main error has been a lack of ruthlessness regarding those he has in midfield. I, unlike you, am not a fan of FSG. However, they can say to him "you've got about eight of the fuckers". It's been said a million times, but last summer (and the one before...) we needed to start fucking off those that don't have a future here.

I agree with this. Why haven’t we see the likes of Keita or Ox or Hendo etc being tried to be offloaded to someone? Keita wasn’t good enough last year, nothing new this year or similarly with Ox, why wasn’t he moved on? Fine to say buy a midfielder or 2 or 3 or however many, but we haven’t shifted any of our existing ones. And don’t get me started on Arthur, what kind of impact, any at all, has he had for us? Not played a minute has he? No point at all in his signing. Not even as emergency cover or whatever. We have been very very far from ruthless with regards to our midfield. 

[J-V]

6 minutes ago, TD_LFC said:

Wasn't simple enough.

 

If only have 37 million to spend should spend 37 million on scorey player or passy player.?

When it means no Ox on the left, Yes.

[Jurgen Knows]

7 minutes ago, TD_LFC said:

Wasn't simple enough.

 

If only have 37 million to spend should spend 37 million on scorey player or passy player.?

Pressy player

[TD_LFC]

Just now, Jurgen Knows said:

Pressy player

 

Let's not overcomplicate it.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

10 minutes ago, TD_LFC said:

Wasn't simple enough.

 

If only have 37 million to spend should spend 37 million on scorey player or passy player.?

A passey player who is scorey?

[joe_fishfish]

It’s completely fucking obvious that we should have signed a midfielder this window as a priority. Yes we may have needed some cover on the left wing ideally as well, but you have to invest your resources where it gives you the biggest improvement.

 

That new contract for Henderson was a shocking decision, it really was.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

5 minutes ago, joe_fishfish said:

It’s completely fucking obvious that we should have signed a midfielder this window as a priority. Yes we may have needed some cover on the left wing ideally as well, but you have to invest your resources where it gives you the biggest improvement.

 

That new contract for Henderson was a shocking decision, it really was.

‘ Hendo ‘ should get a new deal if ennyfink bestest Captain ever and Werld class ta boot.

[TD_LFC]

Just now, VERBAL DIARRHEA said:

‘ Hendo ‘ should get a new deal if ennyfink bestest Captain ever and Werld class ta boot.

 

That was the overriding opinion at the time the club was reluctant to give him such a long term deal on the back of a serious injury.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

17 minutes ago, TD_LFC said:

 

That was the overriding opinion at the time the club was reluctant to give him such a long term deal on the back of a serious injury.

Needs pastures new or putting out to pasture. 

[HBenn]

43 minutes ago, TD_LFC said:

Maybe I should make the question simpler.

 

If we have a set budget is spending it on 3 players who can occupy similar positions on the pitch with a 4th already at the club the priority over strengthening another position given the outcry for the need to strengthen other positions.

If we have such a small budget we shouldn't have let them all age together such that it becomes an either/or choice and we have glaring weaknesses. It's the point most fans have made for 2-3 years 

 

 

If we have such a small budget to cover so many positions the validity of a strategy where we wait for them to prove themselves in the top leagues before buying them also has to be questioned

 

 

All of the front 3 and midfield have needed proper back up for the last 2 seasons. It shouldn't be an either/or situation. 

Surely we should be taking a punt on players 2 years ago while we could gradually integrate them and if they didn't work out it wasn't the end of the World. 

 

We shouldn't be in the position where we buy 2 strikers and then in having to buy 1 to replace the injured one we cannot afford a midfielder anyway. 

It's what happens when you keep putting off major investment and need to do it all at once.

[Jairzinho]

43 minutes ago, TD_LFC said:

 

That was the overriding opinion at the time the club was reluctant to give him such a long term deal on the back of a serious injury.

 

Overriding where?

 

The Henderson thread here (from about page 200) seemed pretty mixed. Lots of people could understand why FSG would be reluctant to offer a long deal, on big money, to a player who would be 33/34 at the end of it.

[an tha]

1 hour ago, DJLJ said:

I agree with this. Why haven’t we see the likes of Keita or Ox or Hendo etc being tried to be offloaded to someone? Keita wasn’t good enough last year, nothing new this year or similarly with Ox, why wasn’t he moved on? Fine to say buy a midfielder or 2 or 3 or however many, but we haven’t shifted any of our existing ones. And don’t get me started on Arthur, what kind of impact, any at all, has he had for us? Not played a minute has he? No point at all in his signing. Not even as emergency cover or whatever. We have been very very far from ruthless with regards to our midfield. 

It is a complete clusterfuck what has been allowed to happen with it.

 

We literally do not have one midfielder of any use who is at the generally accepted ideal/prime age of 25-28 and that is criminal....

 

Our entire midfield options consist of permacrocks, ageing players and kids.

 

The closest we have to an in his prime  midfielder is Naby Keita  - and that says it all.

 

That is before we get into suitability to jobs we ask of them.

 

Breaking it down:

 

Oxlade - Crock

 

Keita - Crock

 

Hendo - 33 before next season, no longer can cope with 2/3 games a week at this level.

 

Milner - 37 years of age next week.

 

Jones - A youngster heading towards his prime but has seen his development badly hampered by injury

after injury.

 

Elliott - A kid who IMO is not a midfielder.

 

Carvalho - See above.

 

Arthur - A loan signing with a terrible injury record who is injured

 

Thiago - Boss player, needs players with legs around him though - plays roughly half the minutes we play over a season usually - will be 32 soon.

 

Fabinho - if he could recover his form arguably our most reliable midfielder as still not yet 30 and a good player.

 

It looks like Bajcetic may deserve to be added to the above now and may well become a really good player for us - a potential bright spot...

 

But that list does not make pretty reading for a club of our stature and ambition does it...?

 

 

 

 

 

[HBenn]

7 minutes ago, an tha said:

It is a complete clusterfuck what has been allowed to happen with it.

 

We literally do not have one midfielder of any use who is at the generally accepted ideal/prime age of 25-28 and that is criminal....

 

Our entire midfield options consist of permacrocks, ageing players and kids.

 

The closest we have to an in his prime  midfielder is Naby Keita  - and that says it all.

 

That is before we get into suitability to jobs we ask of them.

 

Breaking it down:

 

Oxlade - Crock

 

Keita - Crock

 

Hendo - 33 before next season, no longer can cope with 2/3 games a week at this level.

 

Milner - 37 years of age next week.

 

Jones - A youngster heading towards his prime but has seen his development badly hampered by injury

after injury.

 

Elliott - A kid who IMO is not a midfielder.

 

Carvalho - See above.

 

Arthur - A loan signing with a terrible injury record who is injured

 

Thiago - Boss player, needs players with legs around him though - plays roughly half the minutes we play over a season usually - will be 32 soon.

 

Fabinho - if he could recover his form arguably our most reliable midfielder as still not yet 30 and a good player.

 

It looks like Bajcetic may deserve to be added to the above now and may well become a really good player for us - a potential bright spot...

 

But that list does not make pretty reading for a club of our stature and ambition does it...?

 

 

 

 

 

Imagine Jurgen trying to convince Bellingham we have the ambition he says is soo key to his choice of club. 

Most ambitious clubs would be looking to bring in 2 midfielders this month. We look like we won't get one. 

[devilsadvocate]

Not buying a midfielder this window will cost us more then if we do buy one, as we won’t be getting top 4. 
 

Surely this is obvious to the people in charge! 
 

If they want caceido but don’t think he’s worth the asking price then tough we have to swallow our pride and cough up.

 

it’s totally our fault we’re in this position by not signing a midfielder in the summer. 

[HBenn]

No Caciedo for Brighton. Is he injured? 

[TheDrowningMan]

5 minutes ago, HBenn said:

No Caciedo for Brighton. Is he injured? 

Suspended.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Just to be clear, we've just won four on the trot in the league, we've announced the signing of one of the stars of the World Cup, the transfer window doesn't open until tomorrow, and #FSGout is trending.

 

God, I love this club!

 

[Joey8FrogsLegs]

9 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Just to be clear, we've just won four on the trot in the league, we've announced the signing of one of the stars of the World Cup, the transfer window doesn't open until tomorrow, and #FSGout is trending.

 

God, I love this club!

 

Did you watch the Leicester game? Even Klopp and the players admitted it was a crap performance.