Russia v Ukraine

[TheSire]

Whats the point being made?

[Section_31]

28 minutes ago, TheSire said:

Whats the point being made?

 

The west not liking Russia invading Ukraine has made the Russians build a train track to China. We should have let them invade Ukraine and then they wouldn't have build a train track to China.

 

The Chinese and Russians are cunts. End of.

[Gnasher]

44 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

 

The west not liking Russia invading Ukraine has made the Russians build a train track to China. We should have let them invade Ukraine and then they wouldn't have build a train track to China.

 

The Chinese and Russians are cunts. End of.

 

Not quite  Wanna have another go? . I thought the 25 or so sanctions (which ramped up our bills and left many dead) were going to cripple the Russians. The Mexicans are the latest to join Brics. . How's our Hs2 rail infrastructure going? How much we investing? 

 

 

As for the Chinese and Russians. They're not coming down your high street to bother you any time soon. Other more relevant things to worry about  

 

[TheSire]

11 hours ago, TheSire said:

Whats the point being made?

That was what I got myself tbh.

[TheSire]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/09/ukraine-war-briefing-russian-forces-occupying-ukraine-use-torture-as-policy-says-un-expert

[TheSire]

10 hours ago, Gnasher said:

 

Not quite  Wanna have another go? . I thought the 25 or so sanctions (which ramped up our bills and left many dead) were going to cripple the Russians. The Mexicans are the latest to join Brics. . How's our Hs2 rail infrastructure going? How much we investing? 

 

 

As for the Chinese and Russians. They're not coming down your high street to bother you any time soon. Other more relevant things to worry about  

 

Your post didn't mention any of those things though.

[Gnasher]

A couple of alternate views. Well probably no longer alternate although they were about eighteen months ago. 

 

No not the Pope..Ex French pm on the folly of sending Nato troops into Ukraine and an American economist on how we were to hasty regarding some of the sanctions. 

 

 

https://www.thomasfazi.com/p/former-french-pm-the-west-is-more?s=09

 

 

 

 

 

  

[Section_31]

The sanctions on Russia weren't designed to hurt the country, because it's not a country, it's a group of about 30 billionaires, and it's very much hurt them.

 

Ask any chelsea fan, or a British tourist that wants a quiet break in corfu.

[Remmie]

Has anyone seen 20 days in Mariupol? Beyond harrowing and heartbreaking, easily the hardest thing I've ever watched but absolutely essential viewing. 

[Section_31]

That old chestnut.

 

Three pro-Ukrainian battalions made up of recruits from Russia have launched a fresh incursion into southern Russia in a cross-border raid meant to sow chaos before Vladimir Putin’s widely expected re-election this weekend.

 

 

[TheHowieLama]

Top team that!!

 

Sutherland upfront

 

[SasaS]

They have apparently already caught them faking videos.

[polymerpunkah]

[Section_31]

Elections today, according to the beeb: "putin is expected to win by a landslide, as his main opponents are either in jail, in exile or dead."

[TheHowieLama]

37 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Elections today, according to the beeb: "putin is expected to win by a landslide, as his main opponents are either in jail, in exile or dead."

 

Voting today in Russia:

 

 

[SasaS]

Mediazona updated Russian casualties, this time after a month, with new 3,047 names, which is  considerably higher than average for the past five or six months and probably reflects the losses in the current offensive (last updates would be about 2,300 for the full month).

 

The total is now 47,701 KIA, and they are now publishing an excess deaths estimate due to the war, of about 85,000 people, which is in line with their previous estimate they are registering 40 to 60 percent of actual losses.

 

The number of officers killed in the war (deaths confirmed by name) is now over 3,200.

 

https://en.zona.media/article/2022/05/11/casualties_eng

 

[Section_31]

Russian casualties seem to stabilise when they don't try and gain ground, which is kind of the point of an invasion.

 

Said it before but if nukes weren't a thing can you imagine how long it'd take Nato to flatten these cunts? About six days I reckon.

[SasaS]

After plateauing in November, Russia's inflation is again slightly up, to 7.7 percent y/y in February, highest in a year. I also read somewhere that they are raising (or still considering, don't remember) their relatively low income rate slightly. Even though Ukraine's campaign against oil refineries  pushed the oil prices up, it may end up hurting Russia's exports a couple of percentage points again. 

 

Hopefully Russia's economy will get progressively less resistant to the current pressures soon and the hurt starts spreading into to general population more.

[Gnasher]

 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/02/08/ukraine-soldiers-shortage-infantry-russia/

 

 

 

 

 

[Gnasher]

13 hours ago, SasaS said:

After plateauing in November, Russia's inflation is again slightly up, to 7.7 percent y/y in February, highest in a year. I also read somewhere that they are raising (or still considering, don't remember) their relatively low income rate slightly. Even though Ukraine's campaign against oil refineries  pushed the oil prices up, it may end up hurting Russia's exports a couple of percentage points again. 

 

Hopefully Russia's economy will get progressively less resistant to the current pressures soon and the hurt starts spreading into to general population more.

 

 

 

https://www.euronews.com/business/2024/03/14/russias-economy-is-going-strong-why-havent-western-sanctions-worked

 

 

[SasaS]

49 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

 

 

 

https://www.euronews.com/business/2024/03/14/russias-economy-is-going-strong-why-havent-western-sanctions-worked

 

 

Out of curiosity, have you read that article, beyond the headline?

[Gnasher]

1 hour ago, SasaS said:

Out of curiosity, have you read that article, beyond the headline?

Yes. Inflation 7per cent. Wage rises for low earners 20%.. Jobs plentiful. 

 

Meanwhile.. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2023/sep/06/excess-winter-deaths-caused-by-cold-homes-in-great-britain-up-by-about-a-third

 

Don't worry, it only affects the poor. 

[SasaS]

53 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Yes. Inflation 7per cent. Wage rises for low earners 20%.. Jobs plentiful. 

 

Meanwhile.. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2023/sep/06/excess-winter-deaths-caused-by-cold-homes-in-great-britain-up-by-about-a-third

 

Don't worry, it only affects the poor. 

 

They should really be starting a couple of more wars soon, imagine how well they would be doing then.  

[Gnasher]

45 minutes ago, SasaS said:

 

They should really be starting a couple of more wars soon, imagine how well they would be doing then.  

 

Yep, and plenty of our dim-witted politicians will still lead us straight into the fire again. How are the West's main politicians doing? Macron appears to have lost his mind, he's polling is at an all time low of 28%.. Sunak/Truss/Johnsons popularity at home sunk like a stone. Biden is polling very low for a sitting president despite their economy doing OK. Italy has moved to the right. The normally steadfast Germans are having a collective breakdown, I don't think they know what day it is. 

 

 

Not to worry. Another round of self defeating economic sanctions should sort it all out. 

[SasaS]

10 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

 

Yep, and plenty of our dim-witted politicians will still lead us straight into the fire. How are the West's main politicians doing? Macron appears to have lost his mind, he's polling is at an all time low of 28%.. Sunak/Truss/Johnsons popularity at home sunk like a stone. Biden is polling very low for a sitting president despite their economy doing OK. Italy has moved to the right. The normally steadfast Germans are having a collective breakdown, I don't think they know what day it is. 

 

 

Not to worry. Another round of self defeating economic sanctions should sort it all out. 

 

You seem fixated on sanctions on Russia like you lost business personally. Sanctions against Russia are not particularly relevant for popularity of European politicians, nor would they bring down Russia, extremely porous as they are.

 

Cost of this war might though, at least force their people to as their government, why are we in Ukraine again?