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Should the UK remain a member of the EU

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  1. 1. Should the UK remain a member of the EU

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The problem is the Tories, that's the real alpha and omega of the problem.   The referendum was called to quash the infighting that's riddled it for decades. Both leave and remain were front

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I was thinking about this overnight. What I'm about to write may not find favour, but I also have a little bit of sympathy for Tommy Mair. He's done something heinous, and will pay for it, but did it

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I'll bet 50%  of them are bots.

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Interesting summary of why the EU couldn't have any bearing on events in Ukraine if it wanted to.

 

"Why Europe has no say in the Russia-Ukraine crisis – European Council on Foreign Relations" https://ecfr.eu/article/why-europe-has-no-say-in-the-russia-ukraine-crisis/?amp

 

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44 minutes ago, skend04 said:

https://www.kentlive.news/news/kent-news/aycliffe-residents-kept-up-night-6630850?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

 

Whaaaat?

 

You knowingly voted for lorry queues and now you're not happy about what you won?

 

Well, tough titties you mewling quims.

 

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Bump - to let the Keir Starmer thread get back on track.

 

@Gnasher here's another old Labour Leftie giving his opinion on the EU.

"EU referendum: Vote Remain to protect workers' rights, says Corbyn - BBC News" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36508464

 

I dare say you'd rip the piss out of him if he posted those opinions on here.

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25 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Bump - to let the Keir Starmer thread get back on track.

 

@Gnasher here's another old Labour Leftie giving his opinion on the EU.

"EU referendum: Vote Remain to protect workers' rights, says Corbyn - BBC News" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36508464

 

I dare say you'd rip the piss out of him if he posted those opinions on here.

I wouldn't, Corbyn seemed to take an even handed approach to the pros and cons of the EU, obviously the protection of workers rights has to be an issue, the obvious reaction for Labour imo would be to highlight and protest against the goverment proposals so putting clear daylight between themselves and the government, it would also bring the Labour and the Unions closer together in a common cause.

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6 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Why would rejoining the EU be "a fantasy in the minds of Leavers?


What I mean is, the idea that there was this great desire to rejoin the EU. Leavers seemed to think that every Remainer was a Rejoiner, when actually, virtually all of us knew it was a non-starter.

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This is really interesting and something that’s puzzled me for a while.

 

Turns out we’ve been gaming the GDP figures with gold transfers counting towards growth in an entirely fabricated way and added as trade with non-EU countries.

 

Starts around 2015 and peaks last year, with this years not checked yet.

 

Well worth a read and shows some of the sleight of hand that’s been going on and why GDP and growth are a political construct used to present a false narrative of growth.

 

https://www4.shu.ac.uk/mediacentre/features-comment/gold-distortions-‘artificial’-driver-uk-economic-statistics

 

Well worth your time.

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15 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

This is really interesting and something that’s puzzled me for a while.

 

Turns out we’ve been gaming the GDP figures with gold transfers counting towards growth in an entirely fabricated way and added as trade with non-EU countries.

 

Starts around 2015 and peaks last year, with this years not checked yet.

 

Well worth a read and shows some of the sleight of hand that’s been going on and why GDP and growth are a political construct used to present a false narrative of growth.

 

https://www4.shu.ac.uk/mediacentre/features-comment/gold-distortions-‘artificial’-driver-uk-economic-statistics

 

Well worth your time.

Interesting- the article's from early 2020, any idea if something similar has been happening since, or was it a one-off?

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9 minutes ago, cochyn said:

Not to re-open this old chestnut, but fucking hell:

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-60619676

 

Charitable donations to Ukraine held up by post-Brexit red tape. Bra-fucking-vo. What a miserable little island we're becoming.


Wait until you find out the government is using its overseas aid budget for our ‘response’ taking money away from our other international commitments/initiatives for the worlds least fortunate…

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