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  1. Thats a great result. My dad passed away on kick off so hopefully hes beaming now.
    36 points
  2. Another one to add to the “was that our best performance of the season?” discussion. I’ve heard a lot of people say it is, I’m not sure though. Was it better than the Newcastle game? In fact, are Chelsea better than Newcastle? Probably not, beating Chelsea now isn’t the accomplishment it once was, that’s for sure. There’s a reason they’re 10th and we’re top. We’re miles better than them and it showed. We were at this one right from the start. You could tell after a couple of minutes it was probably going to be a comfortable win as long as we didn’t have to wait too long to make the breakthrough. Klopp hadn’t changed the team as much as I thought he might. Trent and Robbo didn’t come back in, but Dom did. I was a little surprised but at the same time Bradley was man of the match last game and Gomez has been one of our best players all season. They deserved to stay in. They probably deserve to stay in at the weekend too, but sports science comes into that to some extent too. Imagine if someone had sent a couple of months back that Trent and Robbo would be fit and available for selection but they couldn’t get in because Gomez was left back and Bradley was right back, both on merit. It’s mad really, but that’s the level they’ve played at. And Bradley upped that level and then some in this game. I don’t want to go overboard, but he might be the best player in the world right now. Ok, I’m joking, but the performance he put in against Chelsea was something really special. It was a performance that Trent would have been happy with, yet this is what, his third league start? Second maybe? Incredible performance from him. I’ll get to that though.
    34 points
  3. Monday Jan 22: The kids beat Arsenal 7-1 in the youth cup at the weekend. I love the youth cup, always have, going right back to my playing days when I scored against United in this competition. The kids will be buzzing about this, especially as last season there was that well publicised u16 game when they conceded double figures against Arsenal in a game when we didn’t have a goalkeeper. Some of these lads will have played in that game and I reckon that will have been a motivating factor in giving them a spanking. In other news, Forest have written to PGMOL again. They’re unhappy because… *checks notes* Ivan Toney moved the ball eight inches to the right before he scored from a free-kick. Hmmm. Couple of things here, and far be it for me to be defending refs and VAR, but this is ridiculous. Number one, the ref doesn’t have eyes in the back of his head. He doesn’t know what Toney did as he didn’t see it. Number two, VAR is actually not allowed to get involved in this. The rules prevent it. So if Forest have a problem, write to FIFA. But this isn’t the first time. Last season they told the press that they had put together a dossier of decisions that had gone against them, but when PGMOL asked to see it, it contained clips of only two incidents, which were both from the same game. Fucking babies. You know what, dock them 10 more points just for this cryarse behaviour. They’re undermining the clubs who have genuine cause for complaint. These cunts will be writing letters about not getting a throw in soon, it’s genuinely pathetic.
    34 points
  4. Sorry to hear this. My Dad passed in October and he always phoned me at the final whistle. Today I was thinking Dad would have said ‘well that was good wasn’t it’.
    33 points
  5. Thank you. He had dementia and had significantly deteriorated in the last few weeks. It stripped him of his personality, communication and mobility. An utterly evil disease. He gave a slight smile last night when we told him liverpool where top. The family were around him when he passed.
    30 points
  6. Don't be sad he is going, be happy we have had him. He has transformed our football club and given us the one thing we all wanted more than anything and who knows what he may deliver yet before he goes. Thanks for everything, Jurgen - you made even the biggest doubters believers and you gave us our pride back.
    28 points
  7. It wasn’t exactly the bounce back from the Arsenal game I hoped for, but a win is a win and in the end I was just relieved we got it. For a while there this wasn’t going very well and there was the potential for us to drop points, which given the opposition would have been unthinkable. You have to beat Burnley at home. And we did, in the end. The first half was awful I thought. Just slow, passive, turgid shite. The goal we scored was a gift from a corner, which we then promptly gifted back to them in similar fashion. I don’t think anyone could suggest that we deserved to be ahead at the break. We never got going at all in that half. Klopp’s explanation for it was that we were in too much of a hurry and kept trying to force it. I thought it was the opposite. There was no urgency in anything we did, everything was slow and laboured and the only time we were able to break out of that was when Nunez was able to run in behind. He was playing with urgency and at his usual level of intensity, not too many others were. That being said, in hindsight there are clearly reasons for that. At the time my feeling was that we just had a massive hangover from last week. Crowd and players both feeding off the others melancholy. I’m almost certainly just projecting my own feelings onto others there though. That Arsenal loss has stayed with me, I wasn’t able to shake it all week and even now as I write this it’s still with me. I definitely think the crowd were feeling it. Not helped by City having already played and gone top. The sense of “here we go again” is hard to escape, and when the team came out as flat as they did it just fed into it. But on reflection I don’t think last week really had much impact on the players, I think other factors affected them. Not least the flu bug that’s gone around the camp and ruled out Alisson and Gomez. We don’t know who else had been suffering from it either. Some of those in the starting line up may well have had it during the week, or may have just been starting to feel it. Then there’s the late changes to the side and players being shifted about. Kelleher came in at the last minute, Quansah replaced Konate but is doing a completely different job to when he’s playing in Virgil’s spot. Playing right sided centre back when Trent is the right back and is wandering infield is tough. Konate makes it look easy, but it’s not. Add to that Robbo making his first start in four months too. Then the midfield had a new look about it. Endo returned, meaning Macca got to play further forward. It looks like he’s forgotten how to do it as it’s been so long. I think he’ll be brilliant in that role but it takes time to learn and he’s been learning to play the six the whole season. It didn’t look fluid.
    26 points
  8. Monday Jan 29: Virgil said something about not knowing what his future holds and it was turned into a much bigger deal than it should have been. I read his comments and thought it was more or less what you’d expect from a player in his mid 30s with only 18 months on his contract and not knowing who the manager was going to be next season. It was interpreted as him saying “I might leave if FSG don’t get the appointment right” but I took it as him saying he doesn’t know what’s going to happen because the club might not give him the contract he wants and the new manager might not want to commit that kind of money on a 35 year old. He’s right to say there’s uncertainty but I don’t think that him saying he might want to leave because Klopp is going. There is uncertainty in a lot of areas though, not just because of Klopp but because we have no sporting director either. This is the time of year when deals for the summer are sounded out and put in place, and we have no-one to do it and everyone who we might want to bring in will be wanting to know who the manager is going to be. We were linked with some Belgian kid today for £5m but we can’t do it because of uncertainty over the SD and manager and he’s meant to be joining Brentford. Can’t say I’m arsed about that as we’ve got more boss young players than we know what to do with, but this does need sorting sooner rather than later because we can’t be getting to the summer with Trent only having one year left. Not arsed about Virgil or Mo as at their age it’s fine to get down to the final year, but we can’t be fucking Trent about. I’m not saying he wants to leave as I was told today by someone who spoke to him recently that he’s saying he wants to stay here his whole career and dreams of being captain, but Gerrard thought that way too until he was left hanging when he thought a new contract was coming and started to think about moving elsewhere. I’m not going to relax about Trent until he’s tied down for another four or five years. Meanwhile, the Mancs yesterday at Newport was the perfect example of why they’re so fucking shit. Look at Antony smugly celebrating his first goal in 9 months, against a league two side. Utterly shameless and lacking in any self awareness. This is why they fail. The culture stinks. Rashford wasn’t there because he got shitfaced in Belfast the night before he was due back at training and phoned in sick. The whole thing is disgusting. Why is he in another country the night before he’s back at training? Because he had a private jet to fly him back, that’s why. Saint Marcus and his Brontosaurus sized carbon footprint. Didn’t I tell you months ago he’s a fucking fraud? The Mancunian Henderson.
    26 points
  9. Yet another game in which we turned it on in the second half after an underwhelming opening 45 minutes. It feels like we do this every week and it feels like I’m saying every week “it’s not how you start, it’s how you finish”. I’d have preferred us to win the first half 4-0 and then start resting people for Wednesday, but I’m not complaining. Another win, another clean sheet, the forwards in the goals and five points clear. Great stuff. It is weird though the massive discrepancy we’re seeing between halves. Every week I have to listen to my Dad say before the game “we’re always crap in the first half, we’re a second half team”. He’s right of course, but it’s got to the point now where his mind is made up that this is how it’s going to go and he’s looking for the tiniest shred of evidence to set him off. Bournemouth got a corner in the first minute and it started. “I told you, we’re always crap in the first half”. Jesus, it’s one minute into the game, have a day off, Dad for fucks sake! I can’t dispute it though. The evidence is there. We hardly ever seem to score in the first half and it always needs Klopp to tell them what they’re doing wrong at half time before they are able to fix it. I actually didn’t think the first half in this one was too bad but Klopp did. He wasn’t happy about it at all and said as much afterwards. My view was that we started the half a bit ropey and ended it a bit ropey but the 35 minutes or so in between was alright. I just thought the front three were shite and that was the problem. My team talk would have been to get the three forwards together and say “stop being shit and we’ll win this easy”. I thought the rest of it was ok, and Mac Allister in particular was outstanding. We had situations but they didn’t lead to chances. For most of the half Jota was doing that thing where he decides he’s going to impersonate someone who has won a competition to play in a Premier League game. Then he had a couple of nice touches and grew into the game before half time. He was great in the second half. Darwin wasn’t great to begin with either. Starting him on the left made a lot of sense so I don’t have any issue with that, but it wasn’t working and as Klopp said afterwards our left hand side was completely static as Darwin just stayed out wide most of the time and the ball wasn’t getting to him. Nunez on the left has worked well at times but I think it’s dependant on the opponent and how the game is going. I prefer him in the middle but there are some games I think him being wide helps us a lot. This wasn’t one of them though, clearly. Then there’s Diaz. He’s shown some nice encouraging signs recently that he’s coming back to form, but he never got into this game playing on the right. I don’t think it was the position he played that was the problem, I just don’t think he got going at all.
    26 points
  10. Monday Feb 12: Reports today say Postecoglu won't be joining us at the end of the season. In other news, I can confirm that I won't be taking up a membership at Augusta National. Seriously, how the fuck is he even being linked with the job? Because he's a fan? So are all of you reading this and you won't be getting the job either. Ok, I'm being flippant as he's clearly got something about him, but that's not anywhere near enough to be qualified for this job. If we appointed him I'd be fucking livid. I don't care for that guy. I've been watching loads of tactical analysis videos of Alonso's Leverkusen and I'm all in on this. I was even before I'd seen all the tactical stuff, but that was based on the fact he's Xabi Alonso, he's top of the Bundesliga and he's taken a team from 2nd bottom to being unbeaten in all comps this season. I knew very little about how he'd done it. Now that I've seen what he's actually doing, fucking hell. It's proper high end, ahead of the game shit. He's not unbeaten because he's got the best players, it's because he's got the best tactics and motivational skills. Some of his key players were free transfers like Xhaka and Grimaldo. He's got another lad who was at Southampton and Burnley and pulled up no trees. He hasn't done this by buying boss players, he's done it by coaching. There was another team that took it to Bayern Munich in similar fashion in recent times. You might be familiar with their manager.... This is the biggest no brainer decision any club could ever make. Don't overthink it, this is just so obvious. Of course there's risk involved and none of us can know how it would turn out, but there's risk with any appointment as there are never any guarantees. You just have to make the decision that gives you the best chance of success, that's all you can do. And if it doesn't work, there's no regrets because you made what was the best decision you could have made at that time with all of the information available to you. It's almost like the NFL draft in some ways. The Bears have the number one pick this year and there are a lot of arguments going on about what they should do. There's a quarterback available who is being touted as a generational talent and half the teams in the league would kill to get him. He might turn out to be a flop, but if you don't take him you'll always be kicking yourself in case he becomes what the experts are saying he could be. We're in that unique situation this summer. We've basically got the number one pick in the draft as we're in a position where we can choose ANY manager we want (nobody is turning down this job, it's the most attractive available job in the world other than maybe Real Madrid, but I just don't see Xabi wanting to join them over us at this point in his career). Alonso is the clear stand out star of the draft, yet you've got people suggesting we pass on him and take De Zerbi, the Sporting fella or even Eddie fucking Howe (ok, that was Agbonlahor who said that so it doesn't count). If we took anybody else other than Alonso the risk would be much bigger than giving it to him and it's a decision we might live to regret forever. Like when the Bears traded up to draft Mitch Trubisky instead of Patrick Mahomes. It takes years to recover from mistakes like that.
    25 points
  11. Sorry to read this mate. My mum died on Tuesday and I’ve been a bit fucked since. This game made me smile. Take care mate.
    25 points
  12. Monday Feb 5: Lots of talk about the Arsenal celebrations and loads of people are completely missing the point. “They’ve won, why shouldn’t they celebrate”. Oh fuck off. They should celebrate, of course they should. We’d have celebrated too. We celebrate after every win and no-one enjoys a celebration more than Klopp. The problem with Arsenal is the WAY they celebrate, it always just makes me want to die of cringe, and it’s not just me and it’s not just Reds. Everyone takes the piss out of Arsenal and there’s a good reason for it. It just all feels so forced and lame, especially Arteta. That cunt does not have an authentic bone in his body. He’s the anti-Klopp. He’s worse than Sadio when it comes to stealing celebrations too. Little bit of Mourinho running down the line, a touch of the Guardiola’s sideline antics and a big dollop of the Klopp fist pumps. Fuck that guy, he’s just an embarrassing little ex Everton knobhead. It’s not just him though, it’s the players. It’s the Arsenal culture and it has been for years. They haven’t moved on from the “4th placed trophy dressing room selfies” and everything about them just makes me squirm. So yeah, celebrate all you like, but act like you’ve been there before because otherwiseyou look like a lower league club who’s just sprung an FA Cup upset. That Odegard with the cameraman was pure cringe. You know what that was? It was the kind of thing players do when they’re acting daft when they’re doing the lap of honour after they’ve just won a trophy. I could see Sadio or Kostas doing something like that, but not after winning a fucking league game. Fuck off Arsenal you sad cunts, you deserve every bot of ridicule you’re getting and it’s not about being the ‘celebration police’ it’s more about being the ‘cringey bastard police’. I hate the fact that this was what we served up for Klopp’s last game against Arteta.
    24 points
  13. Well that was shit. What a time to throw in a performance like that. Losing at the Emirates isn’t the end of the world as it’s one of the two or three most difficult fixtures on the calendar, so the loss in itself isn’t cause to be too despondent. It’s pretty hard to feel anything but demoralised though after seeing the performance. It was bad, bordering on terrible in fact. The first half - as usual away from home - was shocking. Dreadful, clueless, sloppy, disorganised shite. The second half actually started well (as usual away from home) but then Klopp decided to make three changes when we were well on top and looking dangerous, and that was the end of that. We lost momentum, then made schoolboy mistakes at the back and ended up getting exactly what we deserved - nothing. There’s a lot of blame to go around for this one. None of the players come out of it with any great credit but the gameplan and team selection was fucked up too. How is it possible for us to go there and do the exact same shit we did in the first half of the FA Cup game the other week? Even the game at Anfield saw Arsenal take control of us early on. How have we not learned from that? Klopp said “we didn’t play football” in the first half. Well yeah, that’s true, but why is that? Because it was really fucking hard to play football when all of our players seemed to be marked and we had no pace up front to turn them around. So what we got was exactly what we got in the FA Cup game (another one that Darwin was left on the bench for by the way). I’m not going to make too much of it, but I’ve said before that I don’t enjoy watching us when Nunez is not on the pitch as we just don’t look anywhere near as threatening. This is a good example of it. No Darwin no party. The difference in how we look when he’s on the pitch to when he isn’t is night and day. That said, we were just as shite when he did come on in this game, but I’m convinced if he’d started we’d have posed much more threat. We couldn’t have posed any less, could we? We did absolutely nothing in the first half. It was completely inept and Arsenal were in complete control despite not really doing anything special themselves. They were decent and we were shite. Had they been anywhere near their best we’d have been in big trouble.
    24 points
  14. Massive win, potential banana skin avoided and we extended our lead over City by two points. That’s the good news. The bad news is we may have lost two key players for the foreseeable future, but we have to cross our fingers and hope for the best on that. This was a great win and while maybe the scoreline flattered us a little, it was a comfortable, deserved win in a fixture that has given us problems in recent years. I think we were assisted by how shit they were at the back but I also think we spotted things in their game that we could exploit, and we did. It wasn’t a co-incidence how we created so many chances by knocking the ball forward early and turning them around, or the way we countered them on their set-pieces. That was a big weakness of theirs and we exploited it. It was quite strange to see really. In open play they had a compact shape, five across the back, three sat in front and Maupay dropping off to get turned and start counter attacks. It was tough to break down, as we thought they would be. But then they’d get a set-piece and turn into Keegan’s Newcastle, throwing everyone forward and having all of their players in our final third. They started well and although I didn’t think we were playing badly, they were the better side in the early stages. They were quite slick on the counter attack and had a few chances. One counter attack they had ended with a Toney shot that Kelleher saved comfortably, but it was lovely football. Konate did well to put Toney off in the end but that was proper incisive stuff from them. Toney had another chance that he dragged wide after being found by Maupay, and those two were really lively early on. I felt as though we were looking decent enough though and had some good situations ourselves. Unfortunately we lost one of our better players when Curtis went down after an innocuous looking challenge. It’s a good tackle by their lad and it’s not reckless or overly physical, Curtis just landed awkwardly. He was in agony and it’s a big worry.
    22 points
  15. What the fuck is wrong with some of you on here. Klopp has made clear his reasons for this decsion and the timing. Some of you soap watching cunts on here have nothing better to do than look for some ulterior motive for that decision. Given what he has done for this club, and the obvious depth of feelling he has for it, do you really think he would not have considered all the repercussions of his decision and made one that, in his opinion, was best for the club?
    20 points
  16. 1-3 down in the tie and still booing Harvey who played a grand total of three games for them, 5 years ago, and ironically cheering any missed shot on goal we have. Fucking morons, this lot. By the way @Bjornebye and @SasaS Yes I got the job. Lost my previous one on 3rd Jan but this one is a step up in every way so I'm fucking made up. Also, off to Fuerteventura tomorrow. After a wank 12 months, life feels good today.
    20 points
  17. Well, five goals, the youngsters impressing and a successful start to a key part of the season. Can’t really ask for any more than that, given the emotional few days we’ve had. We’re in the hat for the 5th round and that was the order for today. Dan Thomas here with your Norwich report. It’s getting back on the horse having fallen from the saddle. It’s getting back on the bike after falling on your arse. It’s the first game since Klopp’s bombshell announcement and it’s out of the way. Even walking around the ground before the game the mood was quite sombre. There is usually excited chatter of people talking about the upcoming match, the tactics, transfers and some dipshit buying a half and half scarf. But it didn’t feel like that today, there was just nothing. A void. Emptiness. Like the inside of Wayne Rooney’s skull. Other fans (who have no idea what they’re talking about) have poked fun at us this week, but it really does feel like a grieving process, like the passing of something that you have no control over. But when the players and Jurgen walked down the tunnel, we got the applause out of the way. We were ready for business, and it was business as usual. 5-2 was a let off for Norwich if we’re being completely honest. I’d done a lot of thinking about the team and when I read it when it was released, it was a great advert for why talented youngsters should sign for Liverpool. I am always happy to see young lads in the team and it was great to see James McConnell get his first start. I will get to him later but when I was reading the team, I was happy with what I’d seen. Though the LFC Twitter account needs to list people by position and not number. Come on dude, it’s 2024. Let’s be better. I was expecting Robbo to come in from the start or maybe even Owen Beck with Robbo to come on later, and Gomez to drop in at centre half. But no, Konaté played again which I really didn’t expect. It is testament to the Academy and to the pathway to the first team that both Quansah and Bradley are just there now. I fully expected them both to play today and Bradley will be unlucky to not play when Trent comes back in against Chelsea. They are not wet behind the ears kids, these are now established first team lads. They aren’t starters yet of course but they are very definitely a part of the first team squad now – and that is a measure of how calm, composed and grown up their football is. I was a little surprised to see Alisson start but when you think about it, Kelleher has the Carling/Coca Cola/Rumbelows/Carabao Cup and the Europa League. I guess Klopp has told Alisson he has the league and the FA Cup, because it’s not like Kelleher would have been overawed by the occasion today. Some of the football Norwich played was extraordinary. I don’t necessarily mean that in a good way either. We are a lean, mean gegenpressing machine. We hunt as a vicious pack and drag our prey down. So when our prey is not even close to being as good as we are, you’d think they’d try and spend some time with the ball in the air on the halfway line. Not Norwich though – they decided to try and pass out like prime Barcelona. I respect that they have an identity, a style and a way of playing. I almost respect that they are saying “That’s the way we play and that’s all there is to it.” Come on though man, it was obvious inside the first five minutes that they were going to try and go toe to toe with our pressing game and it was obvious we were going to create chances because of it. We had nearly taken the lead early on but Nunez’s curling shot hit the post. He was a menace again today, and was unlucky to not get more than the one he did. He cut onto his right and his shot looked pretty speculative to be honest but it thumped off the woodwork. Again. Feels like poor old Darwin has hit the post hundreds of times this season and here’s another one for the list. Cue the “ShIt AnDY CaRRolL" chants. I was made up to hear those bumpkins start up with that shit because it seems to me that Darwin is increasingly scoring every time it happens. Proper Football League dickhead bantz, and that was Norwich’s schtick all afternoon. Being loud means nothing when you are wearing green and yellow wigs, doing the whole CALM DOWN, CALM DOWN thing 25 years after it was last seen on TV and spending half the game singing about the atmosphere. Which admittedly was mostly very flat. But we aren’t exactly going to be up for it on a Sunday at 2:30pm against a heavily rotated Norwich City, are we? And whilst I’m at it, I hope we’re going to change the away end back to where it was because that has really knocked my karma out of kilter. The away end has been the Main Stand side ever since I can remember. In fact, whilst I’m at it, I resented drawing Norwich in the first place. They have been up and down (nearly as much as I was sitting down and standing up today, what is it with cup games with jabronis constantly going up and down the aisle? I had seasickness two minutes into the second half!) for much of the last twenty years. I never miss them when they’re gone, I don’t acknowledge them when they are here. They’re just there and the same goes for Watford as well, who we’ve drawn in the next round, providing they can get past Southampton in a replay. Not glamour ties but I’ll take the home draw any day of the week. But I digress. When the opener came, it was completely expected and it had been coming. We’d nicked the ball in great positions a few times but didn’t quite make the most of it. But McConnell dropped into space, looked up and pinged a left footed diagonal to the back post. The right back lost Curtis and he swooped in for an easy header. The improvement in him this season has been profound and he is regularly chipping in with goals these days. That one will possibly not live long in his memory but it certainly will for McConnell. He was absolutely fearless today and did not look out of place. He was confident on the ball and put himself about in the tackle. It was nice to see some of our lads go straight to him instead of Jones because it was an exquisite ball that just begged for Jones to do exactly what he did – straight back across the keeper into the corner. Excellent. Norwich continued with their high risk, zero reward approach and I honestly thought we were going to hit them for seven or eight. However, as it turns out, they got a couple of corners and scored a totally undeserved equaliser. I am a little bit annoyed at that goal to be honest because as a Championship team coming to Anfield in a game where they’d have about 30% possession, Norwich will have been working on their set pieces all week – and we should have been doing the same in the training sessions we’ve had. To add to this, Gibson had a free run at goal in the corner a few seconds previous but Jota nicked it away. No such luck second time. It looked a good header, just a glance and not even Alisson can do anything about it. However, it was actually spawn central as it’s flicked off his back and Alisson can still do nothing about it. We looked a bit ropey for five minutes actually, not under any pressure but certainly not showing our considerable attacking teeth. However, Norwich duly obliged us by playing out again. The keeper tried to find the left back with a diagonal which Conor Bradley won back. He then played a lovely 1-2 with Jota the Slotter and suddenly the right back had acres of space to run into. He kept his composure magnificently and played in Nunez. To be honest, his first touch wasn’t great and he hit the ball quite a bit further ahead of where he would have wanted. But the finish, right footed, was straight in the bottom corner and the keeper isn’t getting that. Very good all round. And that was a perfect demonstration of the importance of making the right choice – when you do so, everything opens up. Until half time, all hell broke loose. We should have been out of sight and then some. Norwich kept trying to Beckenbauer it up, we kept swooping in and taking the ball. Bradley cut it back for Gakpo and the latter inexplicably skimmed it well wide with the goal at his mercy. A really extraordinary miss for someone who is usually so composed. And then, Norwich tried to play out yet again and Jones nicked it, played in Gravenberch who rounded the keeper but his shot was weak and was cleared off the line. A truly nuts couple of minutes. Again, I respect you have an identity. You do that against Huddersfield or Southampton or Leeds. You don’t do that at Anfield against a team that actively wants you to try and play your way out. How it was only 2-1 at half time was anyone’s guess. When all the dickheads got back from their half time pie/pint/piss and making me bob up and down like a fat Woolyback meerkat, they would have seen that we carried on the second half as we ended the first. Total domination. However, the third goal was a bit out of nothing – Jones hit a long one looking for Jota, Gibson had to get there but could only head it into the air. Without breaking stride, Jota has kept on going, got the ball into the perfect position and rattled it into the bottom corner with his left foot. He didn’t have time to think, he just did. An absolutely fantastic finish from one of the elite finishers in world football. He’s been back a while now but it’s no coincidence that we’re playing better, looking more dangerous and scoring more goals since his return to the side. Almost instantly, the changes were rung. On came Dom, Virgil and Robbo and off went Jones, Konate and Gomez. It’s genuinely fantastic to have Robertson back but it is a huge testament to how well Gomez has played when you consider we have not missed either Robbo or Tsimikas. Incidentally, can we knock the SHOOOOOT every time Gomez has the ball on the fucking head, please? He will build it and they will come, don’t worry. Leaving that aside though, what a bench eh? Not a bad set of subs to make at all. It didn’t take long for the substitutes to combine actually as Szoboslai’s corner picked out an unmarked van Dijk, who planted his header from the penalty spot. How you leave the best header of a ball on the pitch as open as that, I have no idea but it was a great header unmarked or not. Scoring from that range is a skill. There’s not many sights in football watching a keeper at full stretch being beaten by a header from a corner. One of the lads who sits in front of me called a goal from a van Dijk header before that ball came in, so fair play Mick! On came Trent, off went Darwin as the vice skipper got himself half an hour under the belt before Chelsea in midweek. He nearly scored with his first touch actually as a corner was cleared to the edge of the box, but it was blocked. Interesting that he stayed in midfield mostly and Bradley was left on to maraud down the right. Again I thought Hurricane Liverpool might completely swamp Norwich but it wasn’t quite the case. They had a goal disallowed for offside – there was a VAR check which was a shame as I largely had forgotten it had existed this weekend. It’s no coincidence to me that there has been no talk of high profile refereeing clangers in a weekend where VAR use is limited. I could see in real time it was offside but the check did last a while. A few minutes later, it was 4-2. A long ball wasn’t hoovered up in midfield and Sainz just ran and ran with it. Van Dijk declined to close him down and suddenly, it’s in. There is so much to pick apart about that goal. It’s a good hit don’t get me wrong I am not detracting from the lad. Glen Johnson did the draw for the 5th round and van Dijk demonstrated some Glen Johnson-esque closing down as he…. Well, didn’t. He just let him shoot. And as critical as I have been of Kelleher this season, if that goal goes in with him in net we are asking questions about the goalkeeping. “Alisson would have saved that.” For me, if something goes in from that range you’re entitled to ask questions of the goalkeeper and having watched it back a few times, I am not sure what the problem is. Has he maybe seen it late around van Dijk? If you ask him, he’s probably not happy with himself. Or maybe I am expecting too much because he is the best in the world without question and I hate giving the away fans something to celebrate. I thought that goal demonstrated McConnell was low on batteries because the space in midfield was huge and given he was the holding midfielder he was well behind the play. He lasted another ten minutes before giving way to Diaz. Again, not a bad change to make! Well played young man – see you against Watford on the 28th February. Because that’s how good his performance was. The last ten minutes was no onslaught by them by any means and we could have scored another three ourselves. Long made a great save following a goalmouth scramble, and Jota was having target practice using someone about 10 rows back in the Kop as he absolutely leathered two shots out wide into the exact same area in quick succession. Not one you want to catch in the face. He’s the lad from Portugal He’ll knock your teeth out don’t you know Oh his name is Diogo Jota looked a bit knackered to be honest but McConnell couldn’t continue so 90 minutes for Jota. Obviously the sports science nerds think he’s alright to play 90 now though which is good for us – and we’re going to need big minutes from the four forwards until Salah is back. I thought we were done with the goals given Jota’s fancying of Joe in Row 10 of the Kop but we still had time for one more. A diagonal from Dom to Diaz, a diagonal from Diaz to Bradley who fizzed the ball across goal on the bounce for Gravenberch to nod home right at the death. I don’t think Gravenberch will feel that was the best he could have played but he’s now got three goals for us – more goals coming from midfield is great stuff. Curtis has definitely lifted the bar there and an extra 10-15 from that part of the pitch could be crucial come May. But two assists for Bradley – that’s hugely impressive for a young lad with as little first team football at Liverpool’s level as he has. He was Bolton’s player of the season last year – I know that because my son Jack presented him with the award. Jack is quickly growing into a Red, don’t you worry. He was absolutely superb at League One level last season and he just looks so comfortable. It’s the Jurgen effect obviously but the only thing he has done wrong was get squared up for the Fulham goal on Wednesday night. I reckon he’d have another 7-10 appearances under his belt had he not been injured early in the season. I’ve been waiting to have a good look at him and boy am I glad we have had the chance. So yeah, life moves on. We’ve loved and lost before, we will absolutely love and lose again. I still think there was a bit of a stunned feeling around the ground because it’s all so sudden. We thought we had another season of this at least and yet here we are contemplating where we go from here. The simple answer is onto the next game which is frankly a bigger fish to fry – we will need the crowd more in that game than we ever were going to against these jeering bums. The timing of the announcement is strange, I hope that this is to try and galvanise the crowd to be stronger than ever on the run in. We’re fighting on four fronts and let’s be honest, Watford at home is not a million miles away from what we would have been wanting. We have a chance to go very deep in the FA Cup as well and leveraging the last of our time together with Jurgen is going to play a huge role in our quest for all the gold. Star man – The FA Cup, Roy of the Rovers, Jumpers for Goalposts, Giant Killing, Sheepskin coat wearing cliched gobshite part of me wants to give it to McConnell for his excellent performance on his first start at Anfield. And he’s up there. But I am going to give it to Conor Bradley – two assists, looking so measured and composed and had Gakpo not got the yips it would have been three assists. Honourable mentions to Jones and Nunez as well. Team: Alisson; Bradley, Konate (Van Dijk), Quansah, Gomez (Robertson); McConnell (Diaz), Gravenberch, Jones (Szoboslai); Jota, Nunez (Alexander-Arnold), Gakpo: View full article
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  18. It might have seemed quite close in then end, but this to me never felt in any doubt. We had another gear to go to if needed but we just did what was required to get the job done and now we’re in another final. I’ve lost count of how many we’ve had under Klopp, I heard someone say this was his 10th semi final and I can’t remember us losing any, so presumably this is final number 10. It doesn’t matter, it’s a lot anyway.* I expected more from Fulham but for once we actually started well and played a good first half. I thought Fulham would come flying at us but they didn’t really get the opportunity as we smothered them in that first half. Their players had no time on the ball and we just kept them penned in for most of the half. It’s the best we’ve started an away game in ages. We even scored early! That never happens these days. There was an element of fortune about the goal but Diaz can argue that he made his own luck. The cross field ball by Quansah was ace but it shouldn’t have led directly to a goal. The reason it did was because aggressively attacked it with his chest which took Castagne out and gave him a run into the box. Fulham still had two defenders covering, which ended up being costly as the ball deflected off both of them which might have been why Leno made such a mess of it. He has to save that, but he didn’t and Diaz won’t care in the slightest how it went in. It was interesting that Diaz lined up on the left. When I saw the line up I assumed he’d be on the right again but instead we saw Gakpo over on that side. That doesn’t necessarily suit him but Gakpo is almost like the attacking version of Joe Gomez, he just gets moved around all over the place. He isn’t currently as good at it as Gomez but he’s doing his bit and I like his willingness to get stuck into whatever job he’s given.
    19 points
  19. One of the worst weekends in a long time for us. We don’t lose many, only two this season, but when we lose to Arsenal and then basically everyone who we don’t to win, wins, that just makes it much worse. There isn’t one result that even gave me the tiniest little bit of consolation, it’s just proper shit. Chelsea got beat but they're so irrelevant now I genuinely don't care. They're 11th, the deadbeats. I suppose the only result that went the way I wanted it to was at Goodison. Most of you were probably pissed off when that late equaliser went in, and usually I would be. I'm not sure why, but I absolutely did not want Spurs to win, even if it was against the Blues. Just shows you how much beef I still have with them after what happened at their place. They led though Richarlison but the Blues levelled from a corner (of course they did). Richarlison scored again, and Everton almost equalised again from another corner. I’ve mentioned a lot how Dyche has turned them into Burnley, but his own assistant manager described them this week as “Burnley on steroids”. The only “juicing” Everton are doing is with their books, but it’s a fair description. Just not one I’d expect to come from Everton’s assistant manager. Would never have happened on Kenwright’s watch that. From the “School of Science” to “Burnley on steroids”, poor Bill will be spinning in his grave at that. Spurs had chances to win it but they didn’t take them and paid the price right at the death. This might shock you but I wanted Everton to equalise and was laughing when Branthwaite bundled in from a set-piece (of course). Don’t get me wrong, when it went to a VAR check I then began to think how side splittingly funny it would be if it was disallowed, but yes, I wanted them to equalise as I wanted a draw. Not because I’m worried about Spurs catching us. I just hate seeing them win games because I’ve developed an intense dislike for that cunt manager. I can’t even look at him, he makes my blood boil almost as much as Son, Romero and Richarlison. Of course I’d suck all of that up and I’d have been rooting for a Spurs win if it was directly going to send Everton down, but the only way they’re going down is if they get another points deduction, so my gut feeling was that I didn’t want either side to win because fuck Spurs. The whole Richarlison love in is proper sickening though. Everton are such bad cucks where he’s concerned. Clapping him when he scored and getting all emotional because of his fake ‘non celebration / apology’ nonsense. Losers.
    18 points
  20. Stop with the conspiracy theories he's worn out give the man a break just remember the great times he's given us
    18 points
  21. Jonathan Northcroft - The Times Jürgen Klopp’s human side forced him to walk away from Liverpool Football on Merseyside and throughout the nation will lose so much more than a manager when the German leaves the Anfield dugout this season Liverpool and English football are going to lose more than a football manager. That was obvious when another friend visited Liverpool city centre in the hour after Klopp announced he was leaving the club after this season, describing it as “the world’s biggest funeral — just men staring into their phones”. It was obvious from the reaction of Klopp’s biggest rival, Pep Guardiola, who said with sad warmth, “I have this feeling that he’s leaving part of us at Man City too.” At Anfield, at Sunday’s FA Cup tie with Norwich City, the noise, tears and banners will make it glaring. It was telling, in the video he recorded for supporters, that Klopp, 56, spoke of finding ways to explain his decision to his wife, Ulla. She loves Merseyside and their life in the coastal village of Formby and persuaded him to stay when he was close to quitting midway through last season. Fatigued and mindful of his health, Klopp found 2022-23 a “dog year”, as he put it in his press conference on Friday. He needed to rebuild his team, especially its midfield, and was fed up with the relentless schedule and noise. Among experiences that disillusioned him was one where, during Liverpool’s defeat at Old Trafford in August, a Liverpool fan stood behind Ulla yelling negatives about him throughout the game. He was snapping at benign journalists in press conferences and overseeing performances that baffled him, like a 3-0 defeat against Wolves for which, he said afterwards, “I have no words.” But, with Ulla leading those who encouraged him to continue, Klopp regathered his fight and threw himself into the job with fresh energy, pushing Liverpool up the table and with help from an interim sporting director recruited to assist him — an old associate, Jörg Schmadtke — overhauled his squad, buying an entirely new midfield. This season evokes even more parallels with Sir Alex Ferguson: a managerial tour de force where sharp recruitment, leadership and brilliant decision-making (witness the boldness and extraordinary impact of Klopp’s substitutions) has put a non-vintage Liverpool top of the league just as Fergie did with a non-vintage Manchester United in his final campaign. But the underlying tiredness didn’t go away. It was also telling that the moment which made Klopp realise it was time for a break came when he sat down with staff to plan the next pre-season. He had the sudden thought, ‘What if I’m not here?’ and found it not daunting but enticing. It’s “just the stuff you have to do next to it [the football],” Klopp said, explaining what drained him. An experienced fellow manager understands. “It’s the decision-making that tires you out. ‘What time are we eating dinner?’ ‘When’s the team meeting?’ ‘Where are we staying?’ ” he says. On top of this there are media demands that have “gone to a totally different level in the past five years”. Before games there are press conferences and interviews with rights holders which, in an age saturated with content, are getting ever more left-field and demanding. Nobody wants a quick sit-down discussing team news any more — broadcasters want to take you on a walk round the training ground, throw a quiz at you, ask quirky lifestyle stuff, in the attempt to “get something different”. Quickly, that becomes grating and time-consuming. After games a manager — especially of a club with Liverpool’s profile — will routinely have ten and more media assignments, hopping from podium to pitch-side podium for post-match broadcast interviews with domestic and foreign rights holders before doing radio, club channels and their post-match press conference. Then there is the increasing complexity of coaching, analysis, recruitment and dealing with players. And logistics. In the Europa League, Liverpool are having one of those dreaded Thursday-Sunday-Thursday-Sunday seasons while maintaining runs in both domestic cups. The past week typified the toll on personal schedules. Liverpool had a late Sunday afternoon kick off in Bournemouth and couldn’t fly home from there (for the second time this season) because of storms. Players were couriered home in luxury vans but for everyone else, including coaching staff, there was a five-hour bus journey back to John Lennon Airport, where their cars were parked, and then for Klopp another 90 minutes’ drive home. He got in close to 1am, had training the next day, then the next was on the road again — to London where, on Wednesday, Liverpool played Fulham. At a League Managers Association conference before Christmas the keynote speakers included a brain expert who talked about sleep, a psychologist, a heart specialist and a business guru whose presentation was about reinventing yourself in middle age. This is a profession under increasing strain, increasingly conscious of workers’ need to look after themselves. The reaction from those who know Klopp well is unanimously “good for him”. “He’s superman but people love him because he’s everyman, yet that means he has everyman issues,” one said. In the summer he became a granddad for the first time and is besotted with the child, a boy, yet has only seen him in snatched moments because (born to his stepson, Dennis) he lives in Germany. At Klopp’s press conference it was poignant when he said, “I don’t want to wait until I’m too old to have a normal life” but also “I don’t know how normal life is. I have to figure it out.” This is a guy who became a father at 20, when he was playing amateur football, attending university and doing 6am shifts in a warehouse to pay for his studies. “I had to become a very serious person at a young age. All my friends would be calling me to go to the pub at night and every bone in my body wanted to say, ‘Yes! Yes! I want to go!’ But, of course, I couldn’t go,” he recalled. From there he went into professional playing and, for the last 24 years, the consuming world of coaching. He told Mike Gordon, president of Fenway Sports Group and the ownership’s man running Liverpool, of his intentions in November. Their bond is incredibly close and after establishing there was no chance of Klopp reconsidering, Gordon understood. However the players didn’t know until Klopp called a meeting before practice on Friday and told them in a dressing room at the training ground. Staff received an email and then the video for supporters was released. Recorded in one take on Thursday, it was unscripted with Klopp wearing the gear of a normal middle-aged bloke — jumper, jeans and trainers. A nod to the civilian life he can’t wait to try on for size. Liverpool have lost just one league game this season and even then it involved a VAR farce that went against them. The unknown is how this news will affect players but, when Liverpool try to fill what Jamie Carragher suggests will be a post-Klopp “vacuum”, finding someone who can captivate footballers in quite the same way might be impossible. Ralf Rangnick described Klopp to me as a “menschenfänger” — a German word to describe charisma that literally means “people-catcher” — and nine seasons of listening to players speak about the Liverpool manager has brought home how special he is in this regard. Ibrahima Konaté told me about facing a choice between Liverpool, Chelsea, Manchester United and Real Madrid and having his mind made up by a video call with Klopp. “I watched nothing else but his eyes. And I saw sincerity,” Konaté said. Guardiola admitted on Friday that Klopp “would be leaving part of us at Man City” when he departed Then there was Jan Kirchhoff, recalling for me how it was playing for Klopp at Mainz. “When he comes into a room it feels like the room is full of him,” Kirchhoff said. “He has — as we call it in German — he is able to deduct his thoughts. That means really complex things, he is able to break [them] down into simple sentences. Into player language. So it’s easy to give him what he wants.” Yet Liverpool are losing someone who can do the ruthless side of leadership too. A fringe player who Klopp wanted to put in their place was told, “Listen, if my mum and dad hadn’t got together and had me you would never be a Premier League footballer”. Ask Mamadou Sakho, the former fan favourite who on a 2016 tour of the US delayed the squad’s outgoing flight by arriving at the airport late, was then late for a team meal, then didn’t show for a recovery session which impacted the schedule of physios. Klopp sent him home. Until a move to Crystal Palace, Sakho spent the next five months playing for Liverpool’s under-23s. Ilkay Gundogan tells a story of a ferocious dressing-down at Dortmund (Gundogan’s crime was breaking club rules by reporting for training with a muscle problem without giving the physios notice). Gundogan kept protesting that he was still OK to train until Klopp yelled at him: “Do whatever the f*** you want to do!” But later, Klopp sidled up on the practice pitch and put a big arm round his midfielder. “My friend, do you know why I was so angry? I just care about you. And I don’t want you to get injured,” Klopp said, giving him a hug. Liverpool are losing the captain of their culture, someone who stood up for the collective ethic in Doha when they won the Club World Cup in 2019. At the presentation, upon hearing fringe players might not receive medals, Klopp threatened, “OK, I will go there and when the Sheikh or whoever wants to give me a medal I won’t take it. Tell them I will kill the whole ceremony.” Extra medals were duly found. At the old training ground, Melwood, there was a portrait of Klopp made up of the names of every single employee who worked there and this is a manager who has the perhaps old-school view that his job is to carry everyone at the football club, whether in the football department or not. He set a tone at the end of his first season after Liverpool lost the 2016 Europa League final to Sevilla in Basel. With a whole room of employees moping at the post-match party Klopp strode across the dancefloor, grabbed the mic and said: “Two hours ago, you all felt shit. But now hopefully you all feel better. This is just the start for us. We will play in many more finals.” Then he broke into a rendition of, “We are Liverpool, tra la la la la.” What now? Billy Hogan, Liverpool’s CEO, promised that in the hunt for a successor the club will go through “the same process that brought us Jürgen”, which involved compiling a 60-page dossier on the German, drawn from info from journalists, players, colleagues and Liverpool’s then director of research, Ian Graham, who provided detailed statistical analysis showing that in all but two of 14 previous seasons as a boss Klopp had significantly overperformed given his budget. Michael Edwards, the former sporting director, even sat, anonymously, in a hotel where Klopp was staying, listening to him talking on the phone, to get a sense of his dealings with people. Though Edwards and Graham are gone, Gordon remains and crunching the numbers will be Will Spearman, Graham’s successor, well-apprenticed in the “Liverpool way” of using data. There is confidence at the club that the systems and knowledge in place will lead them to the right successor. Xabi Alonso is the early favourite and Roberto De Zerbi is in the frame but nobody should jump the gun. A year ago many were predicting Jude Bellingham was Anfield-bound but in pulling out of the race for him in order to spread their budget on four midfielders, not one, Liverpool showed themselves willing to risk criticism and go against fan and media opinion to make appropriate recruitment decisions. With that remarkable knack for finding the right phrase, at the right moment, and being at the same time both lighthearted and affecting, the grizzled, mellower (say managerial adversaries) Klopp mused at his press conference, “We are not young rabbits any more, we don’t jump as high as we once did”, and it spoke of a man who has seen a world only filled with football, but whose life has had room for too little else for too long. A few years ago, he mused about why we are all on this earth. He suggested life was “about leaving better places behind. About not taking yourself too seriously. About giving your all. About loving and being loved”. He has not gone yet but even if he left tomorrow how very thoroughly, at Liverpool, he has lived out that mission.
    17 points
  22. It's been a fuckling privilege to have gone on this journey with him. I am so grateful to him for bringing the joy back. It's a fucking great big fairy story. Rocks up. Says he is normal. Tells everyone that if they want success they need to buck-up! Wins everything. God bless, you massive fucking legend. Hope all your future endeavours bring you happiness.
    17 points
  23. I’ve watched that full 24 mins interview and in it he asks us to accept his decision. And the video makes me think more of him as a man than I already did. He’s making the decision partly for his own good but he hints that he thinks it’s the best for the club too. He says he’s a 100% all in style manager and feels like he won’t be able to do that anymore after this season. He doesn’t want to manage us when he’s not able to give it everything. The bit about dreading and being indifferent about organising next seasons training camp said a lot to me. It sounds like he doesn’t get the enjoyment out of things like he once did. That his job is now becoming more of a chore and is preventing him from living a normal life. That’s the starting point to something more serious, if it continued. A complete burn out, mental exhaustion and possible further issues. It sounded like he’s decided to get out while he can before he’s completely overwhelmed by everything. And, for all he’s done for us, he’s entitled to think of and look after himself for once, and, yes, we do accept your decision. Albeit sadly.
    17 points
  24. I can’t find a topic about this, sorry if it’s here somewhere. This is a story about my step mum Liz who was jailed in 1999 but whose case wasn’t reviewed during the inquiry as it came before Horizon was introduced. New evidence shows that prosecutions and dodgy software was in place at least 5 years earlier. We knew Liz was innocent but it’s only now that people are willing to listen. https://inews.co.uk/news/mum-jailed-new-post-office-scandal-2871386?ito=copy-link_share_article-top
    16 points
  25. I just shook hands with Cally and Davey Fairclough. It's a good night.
    15 points
  26. Another pretty shitty weekend really but it never feels as bad when we win, so at least there’s that. Wasn’t great in terms of other results though, but I think we need to get used to that as it’s going to be like this most of the time now. The Blues lost but that was the most nailed on result of the decade. City are going for a title, nothing takes priority over that if you’re a Blue, not even the looming prospect of relegation and possible end of days. As long as the Redshite aren’t winning titles. Ok, it’s a little more complex than that these days since Everton were caught cheating. All of a sudden, they’ve gone from revelling in City’s financial doping to pointing and screaming “look at them, they’re cheating too, why are we getting punished?”. Ask Evertonians if they want their ten points back but the condition is that City get the deduction instead and let’s see how they vote on that. Would be interesting. They kept it tight for a while at the Etihad but at no point did I allow myself to hope. I wasn’t even paying any attention to it until John started running his mouth outside the chippy about how “City haven’t had a shot on target yet”. The rest of us all looked at him like he’d just announced that he’d voted Tory. “Why the fuck would you say that you jinxing cunt?” Less than a minute had passed before he’s holding his hands up and accepting blame. It finished 2-0 with the blobfish getting both of them. There is no punishment severe enough to deal with these cunts.
    14 points
  27. Just delved into the pod stats a little bit. Podbean isn't as granular as some of the other platforms, but there's enough to know we're on the up. Today is shaping-up to be our best single day ever for all-episode downloads (about 20 downloads to go in the next 90 minutes to reach that level), the vast majority of which are from an episode that didn't go up until lunchtime. January was our best overall month ever. By a margin of several thousands of downloads. Lots of games, lots of news, but still. Thanks guys. You've all been so supportive in interacting with us after every episode, proving great discussion points through questions and sharing with your fellow Reds. Appreciate ya.
    14 points
  28. Anyone over the age of 12 who describes a player as a "baller" needs locking in a fridge and thrown off the Runcorn Bridge.
    14 points
  29. My father-in-law isn't the man he was thanks to a massive stroke. Still, when my wife heard cackling from the next room at about quarter-to-five yesterday, she knew they were losing. He hasn't changed that much.
    14 points
  30. Been mentioned a few times. Could do a poll but there are so many. For me beating Barcelona 4-0 in 2019. My dad was at deaths door at the time, he told me before the match we'd win 4-0. I put it down to the amount of morphine he was on. Just unreal to come back like that. We won number 6 two days after his funeral.
    14 points
  31. We've got to shake all this glum shit off though. There's matches to be won this week and it's not a death. Quite the opposite, he's going off to have a life. And we've got leagues and cups to win. We've all said klopp has never won enough due to the cheats, well here's an opportunity to put some of that right - we're in one final, doing sound in the other domestic competition with a nice home tie and lots of PL teams sure to be out by the end of this round, we'd be one of the favourites in the CL let alone the Europa and for once we have our noses in front of city AND they're coming to us. Time to get bouncing and hostile. What we need now is an aggressive Liverpool fan base, make anfield as hostile as we can. Smash Norwich tomorrow, fuck Chelsea on Wednesday before our away support get down to the Emirates and carry that support on to help the team finish the week with 3 wins.
    14 points
  32. Short one this week as there were only a handful of games, one of which was ours and has already been covered. So four games to get through, starting with the return of my boy Ivan Toney against Forest. Cracking game. Danilo volleyed Forest into an early lead but Toney levelled in contentious circumstances. Firstly, it looked like a dive by Damsgaard to win the free-kick, but the thing that had Forest so angry they wrote to PGMOL about it (I’ll get to this) was Toney moving the ball a foot to the right to give himself a bit more leeway to bend it around the wall and into the bottom corner (which he did, superbly). It’s not just that he moved the ball, it’s that he waited until the refs back was turned and also moved the spray foam so it looked like the ball was where it was supposed to be. I’ve seen loads on twitter (most of them not Forest fans, some where Reds, bizarrely enough) really going after Toney and calling him a cheat. Fuck off you huge snowflakes!! Is it cheating? Technically yeah. It’s also crafty, sneaky, clever, streetwise, whatever you want to call it. Good luck to him if he can get away with that. He probably won’t next time as there’s been so much hysterical whining over it that everyone is going to be watching him from now on. Toney himself said “you can move it half a yard either side and if I hadn’t scored no-one would care”. Can you move it half a yard either side? I don’t think that’s right you know but he seemed pretty sure of himself. The ref doesn’t have eyes in the back of his head so it’s not his fault. And VAR isn’t allowed to get involved in something like that, so it’s not their fault either. The Forest players should have spotted it and moved the wall accordingly, but they weren’t paying attention and paid the price. Shit happens. But then Forest, not for the first time, took their grievance to a completely unacceptable level and fired off a letter of complaint. Soft cunts. So many teams have suffered far worse than them but this is the second time they’ve leaked to the press that they’re putting in an official complaint. I’m embarrassed for them, especially as like I said, VAR is literally not allowed to intervene in this as it’s against the rules set out by FIFA. If anything they should be writing to FIFA. Never mind the PSR charges, dock them 10 points just for being massive babies. A thumping header by Ben Mee gave Brentford the lead but Wood equalised from a Hudson-Odoi cross. Maupay won it with a really nice finish. He’s done alright since going back there, he’s got five goals now which means he’s reverted to the mean. He was always good for 8-10 goals a season until he ended up in the black hole that is Everton. He must feel like a released P.O.W. right now, just enjoying life again.
    14 points
  33. And if it's a DCL he'll be wearing knickers and bras.
    13 points
  34. I won't say it feels like a death in the family as I'm all too familiar with that feeling and saying it about a man I've never met is a bit too melodramatic (for me, other people are entitled to their own feeling). It does, however, feel like a really good mate moving away and knowing he is never coming back. Can't help but think about all those special moments (Dortmund, Barcelona, no. 6, no. 19, battering United repeatedly, beating Everton in the cup with a team of children haha) and feeling things will never have that same magic again, no matter who comes in. As has been said, you can replace the coach, but you can never replace the man. Love the man to bits and hope he can find the rest and normalcy he is looking for. No one deserves it more.
    13 points
  35. I remember the euphoria when he became manager. No way anyone could live up to those expectations, right? Instead, he exceeded them. All I can say is:
    13 points
  36. I've said it time and time again until I'm fucking blue in the face, but Samuel's point is absolutely nonsensical unless you want to live in a completely dystopian footballing future. It's like, I get it, there are successful clubs, success increases profile and increased profile leads to increased income, and increased income increases your chances of success. There is an element of unfairness there, with success and income being so closely intertwined that it leads to too much monopolisation of both. But you can't declare that and then at the same stroke argue that the solution to it is to allow state funds into the game, because that link between income and success remains unbroken - it's just that the key to income is state wealth not success. You'd still have a group of clubs entrenched at the top, plus then all the former giants some way behind them, and then the smaller clubs behind that. Success is still monopolised, and you've still got fuck all chance of glory unless you can get the income. Fatty Samuel thinks it's both more likely and more fair if your increased income is gained through flashing your knickers at the next state investors in town, rather than through being able to build up your squad and climbing the table. It's fucking bullshit - and recent events (e.g. the rise of Spurs as a Big 6 team, the clown show at Old Trafford, the canny operations at Villa and Brighton) show how PSR can make the league a far more competitive place as a whole rather than just randomly and arbitrarily elevating a couple of non-clubs into the stratosphere with Middle Eastern oil money. He's a fucking idiot.
    13 points
  37. No. Fuck off. And if the owners come requesting it, ask them for the profit they’ve already made. The answer is fuck off and should always be fuck off.
    13 points
  38. A full round of fixtures in midweek, starting on Tuesday as Everton drew 0-0 at Fulham. Sounds like it was shit but I watched most of it on a stream and it was a good game with fuckloads of chances at both ends. No-one could score though. Pickford made some top saves and Beto missed two great chances right at the end. It’s wild to think that a club in desperate financial trouble that had been told not to spend any money, went out and spunked the best part of £40m on Beto and some kid from Sporting Lisbon who never even sees the field. It’s like having just enough money to pay your leccy bill and going down the shop and buying a couple of fidget spinners.
    12 points
  39. It's such a weird job and such a weird manager market at the moment that it's hard to know who we need. When we sacked Rodgers, the brief was challenging but obvious: we needed a manager with the vision and standing to build the club up and turn us into challengers - while working with a relative underdog. Klopp was the standout, towering candidate: he'd done exactly that at Dortmund - managing an expectant fanbase in the face of massive odds to success, and doing it with charm, personality and style. That made his first couple of years easier. There were moments I had very slight doubts in his early time - but they were quickly silenced by my rational brain recognising that if Klopp couldn't do it then it was because the brief was too difficult, not that there was a better candidate out there. This time it's different, we're a much better team with a really good age profile: some outstanding youngsters breaking through (but not too many to give the squad a callow feel), a crop of players approaching their peak (but not so many that the squad will go over the hill in one go), and a brains trust of experienced pros (but not so many that there'd be a changing room full of grognards). Ferguson left a team with success, but success built on a mix of honest but limited pros and aging stars having a last hurrah. Wenger left a team with a reasonable age profile but a squad that ultimately was repeatedly proven to be short of the required standard. I've never known anyone having to really step into such a settled environment. There'll be pressure to fill Jurgen's boots - but all the tools to be able to do it (whereas at Arsenal and the mancs there was all the pressure but none of the tools). I guess one thing will go in this guy's favour - they won't have to contend with a Klopp Liverpool (unlike every other managerial appointment in the league since 2015). I'm all in on Alonso, for what it's worth. I actually think that if he'd just been a classy player who'd had the same career away from Liverpool then I'd possibly be leaning towards de Zerbi due to a greater familiarity with Brighton (and I've been really impressed with them - he's changed how they're perceived massively) but Alonso's standing with the club shades it for me. He'll get the buy-in, which feels like the most important thing for such a big transition.
    12 points
  40. 10 years ago today, this happened. This is where all my 'Nil Satis' stuff began. *sniff* It's been emotional. Ten Years Satis Nisi Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucckk!
    12 points
  41. 12 points
  42. What, choose to take a manifestly honest and decent man at his word?
    12 points



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