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I had a couple of friends over from Rotterdam for the game over the weekend. We got in a black cab at Lime St and started chatting, the driver hears them and says "Are you Norwegian?" "No...Dutch" "When Liverpool play at home we get loads of fares day before the game, day of the game, day after....never happens with Everton games, we dont get any travellers.....its just people from the City going to the game" "its not just that nobody cares about you then?" The fuuuuuuuume was wondrous.

@scudger99 @TheHowieLama This one?

Absolutely pathetic if true. Do the club really think we can compete with Man City by buying Scottish footballers from clubs outside the top six?

It's weird when the Mancs used to get last minute winners and Ferguson used to bully refs and have them struck off if he didnt like them, Abramovich pouring millions of his own wealth gained from Russian national resources into Chelsea to distort the transfer market, and then Man City, funded by an oil state who get around FFP by creative accounting Evertonians didnt think the game was corrupt. But now Liverpool without spending as much as their own tin pot club are top the whole game is bent and needs fucking off. Just sounds like sour grapes to me.

I really want to see someone test the logic of this supposed "an attacker's handball doesn't matter unless it leads to a goal" rule. I want Salah to pick the ball up in his hands, pull the defender's arm away from his body and throw the ball into his arm and then demand that it's a penalty because his handball didn't lead to a goal therefore it can't be used in determining whether the defender committed a handball offense or not. When you take it to its logical conclusion it becomes clear how utterly daft that interpretation of the rule is.

As (I presume) the only Bolivian on the forum, I am quite bemused to see all the Europeans on twitter calling the recent events a "coup." It is a complicated situation, to be sure, and I am far from a right-winger, but if we on the left can't admit when those who use the label "leftist" then become power-hungry and abandon the values that swept them to office, then we're not much better than the ones we claim to hate on the other side. Evo Morales has been rigging elections, and ignoring the ones he can't rig badly enough for YEARS. He is a borderline dictator and a terrible representative for the politics of caring for the poor and needy (though he still uses the rhetoric when it suits his purposes). Bolivians have taken note of what's happened in Venezuela - everyone in Bolivia knows someone who has fled their home there and there is a large refugee community in the country from Venezuela. Once you've heard their stories and seen how transparent the dictatorship is in that country (again, using leftist rhetoric as a cover for corruption and incompetence) it's hard to sit by and watch it happen to your country. Again, just as a reminder, Bolivia has a constitutional provision that a president can only serve two terms. Evo served his two terms but wanted to continue as president. So he had the Supreme Court, which he controls, issue a statement that his first term didn't count (thus making this last term, his third, actually his second). But wait, I hear you ask - how can he be running again for a fourth term, then? He held a referendum to change the constitution to allow a president to run for as many terms as he/she liked in 2016. Despite massive evidence of voter fraud on the part of Morales' party, they STILL lost in the popular vote. So he couldn't run again, right? No, you naive fool. He simply convened a new "Constitutional Assembly," wrote a new constitution that was mostly the same as the old one but without term limits, and then without any voting made it law. That's why he's able to run for president again in 2019. So while he may use the language of a leftist, fighting "for the people" and whatever, the truth is that he has proven over and over that he is willing to trample all over democracy to keep himself in power. So yes, removing him from power has some of the elements of a coup, I suppose. But taken into the context of a situation where he's basically made it clear that he will never allow himself to be voted out of office, it would seem that the country had very little choice. Hopefully now they can scrap the worst corruption from his party and run again with a clean slate with a fair election. But I wouldn't bet too much on it - the big powers like Russia, China and the US will certainly be involved, sadly.

Our second goal reminded me a little of this.

Report by Dave Usher Last year we missed out on the title in large part due to only taking one point against City, so this win was huge. It doesn’t guarantee anything, but what needed to happen happened, and while the rest of the nation bleats about phantom penalties and pro-Liverpool conspiracies, we can just laugh it off and celebrate another great win that puts us eight points clear at the top, and nine clear of City. While Pep Guardiola desperately tried to ensure the narrative was City being screwed by the officials again (he did the same thing when we spanked them in Europe too), the real story of this game was the tactical masterclass by Klopp that allowed us to keep them at arms length for most of the day while completely ripping them to shreds at the other end. Apparently XG showed that City had more ‘expected goals’. Whatever. My eyes told me that every single time we attacked we looked like we’d score. It might not have always led to a clear chance, but it always looked like it could do. City were dangerous and played some lovely football around the box, but we defended them as well as it’s possible to do while also ensuring we never got pinned back by them and were always able to spring counter attacks. Klopp’s assessment was that you can’t beat City by playing like they do, because they’re the best at playing that way. He’s dead right. They’re sensational at what they do, but what they do at one end does leave them wide open at the other, and we took full advantage of that. It was a strange start to the game as for the first few minutes we just couldn’t get the ball. City got on top of us immediately and forced some early corners. Everything seemed to be going through Bernardo on the right in the early stages, but we were doubling up nicely on both him and Sterling on the opposite side. City had a lot of the ball but our shape was good, and it soon became clear that any time City didn’t have the ball they were in big trouble. It genuinely felt as though we’d score every single time we attacked. They were wide open and I’m surprised we only scored three to be honest, especially as two of them came so early. And how good were those goals? Just beautiful. City can bleat all they want about the first one, I don’t care. Irrespective of what happened in the box, the way we worked it from back to front so quickly was ruthlessly efficient and a sign of things to come. Sadio had stayed forward in “the half space” as Klopp likes to say, and Robbo sent him clear with a pass out of defence. Mané drove at the defence, waited for support to arrive in the middle and then tried to pick out Bobby. City were scrambling back and managed to intercept it, but Mo closed down so quickly that Gundogan’s clearance went only to Fabinho, who just fucking leathered it in from 25 yards. The keeper had no chance of saving that as it was such a sweet strike. It went like an arrow and when you look at the still photo of it you can see the perfect form of Fabinho. Head down, just striking right through the ball. Glorious. He should do that more often really, shouldn’t he? Although if he added goals to what he already does then that’s genuinely not fair on the rest of the league and maybe some sort of handicap would need to be introduced. I don’t know, maybe have him carry a dead weight around the field with him or something. After all, that’s what Gerrard had to do for half of the time he played with us. This is just a teaser, click to view the full article Please note that Match Reports are only available to website subscribers. Subscriptions cost just £2 a month (you need to register first) and can be purchased here.

Found this on Facebook. Incredible pic.

I have seen absolutely nothing in the media or from the authorities explaining the whole handball thing. As far as I can tell: Michael Oliver didn’t see the Silva handball and deemed the TAA handball accidental. VAR checked the TAA handball and agreed it was accidental. As a result, the Silva handball was irrelevant (not leading to a goal scoring opportunity), play was allowed to continue and we scored. If VAR had decided that the TAA handball was a penalty then they would have reviewed the Silva handball which lead to it and Liverpool would have got a free kick. So Man City were never getting a penalty, even though the decision was debatable. And of course the whole VAR thing is complete bollocks; when Fabinho scores a worldie we should all be jumping up and down screaming, not scratching our chins about retrospective reinterpretations of shite regulations.

@FanchesterCity where are you? I want to pat you on the head and tell you that your lot played well. (I just know he's browsing anonymously tonight)

Great report Dave but to be honest after that game you could have just written 'wibble' and I'd have repped it.

Rolls Royce

He's generally been excellent ever since being subbed off in the first half against Spurs two years ago. We've a quality crew of centre halves.

Sunday roast dinner

There's a separate thread for covers.

Looks like we destroyed their coach after all.

Grafted his arse off the entire time he was on the pitch, relentless pressing, and valuable protection for Trent. City didn't get any kind of grip on the game until after he went off. You can tell how much he wants this title, he's giving it everything. Great attribute to have in a captain.

Us and Evertonians also have something in common. We are both obsessed with Liverpool.

Us and the bitters do have some things in common... For example neither of us have beaten a team above us this season.

That could well be it mate, hard to tell without being in the same state that I was at the time. Even if it's not the one, just fucking look at it. The Van Dijk of midfielders, absolutely imperious.

Really enjoyed reading your report dave. The fume about us and var is quite incredible, and it's only us that the media are obsessed with. Fuck them all.

Negged for saying we're not the best team to ever exist.

Epic report Dave. I’ll say it again - best Reds team I’ve seen - and I had the privilege of seeing them all since we won promotion all those years ago...

Jimmy Hoffa is the real Head of Premier League Referees, him and Tommy De Vito run the whole thing from a Super Yacht anchored in International Waters of the Island of Atlantis. VAR is actually alien technology to control the earth, Hoffa and De Vito report directly to the Queen and Pete Price. David Icke was right. John Henry is actually Lord Lucan and waited years after extensive plastic surgery to resume a position of power. He chose to buy Liverpool because he is the Anti-Christ and they are the Devils Club.

Lovren had a really good game.

I like the episode where they find out its Dave Kirkby in the VAR room after dressing up as the ghost of a pirate to scare all the referees away.

18 months since I was last able to eat these great, golden wonders.

They can address their defensive problems quite easily, don’t play Liverpool every week.

The PGNL reasoning is bollocks. The rule doesn’t say leading to a goal, it’s goal scoring opportunity. What is a penalty if not a goal scoring opportunity? Silva’s handball must rule out a penalty.

*Coughs*

It's between mint sauce and cranberry sauce. Both do wondrous things when mixed in with your gravy. I'll tell you what the answer is not, and that's bread sauce. Tastes of fuck all and looks like baby sick. What in the name of hell was the creator of that thinking?

Great report Dave, as usual. Agree especially on Hendo, and Gomez was great while he was around. Great time to be a red, we should just send the kids to Qatar, fuck the cups, focus on the league.

Fab report missus. "We’ve done it City twice..." - There you go. Told you. Trademark it Usher. "...that bulb headed cunt Kompany" - I got a semi reading that. Top dissing. And I'm only going to say it quietly, coz it's not massively important, but "..."may the best team win" and the best team did win." - erm, better. The better team did win. Good to see you boys before the match. Chicken & leek stew (with optional pie case), hot chicken wings and a ratatouille ragout thing were the mains, seeing as you asked. It was perhaps a little warm in the Paisley. I've metioned it to the management. Made it feel quite nippy when we were shown to our seats a couple of minutes before kickoff. Palace. Fucking Palace. Please god.

Saturday Nov 2: Villa 1 L 2 Fucking hell, why can’t we ever just win comfortably? Don’t get me wrong, I couldn’t be any more full of admiration for the stones these lads have, but we’re a great side that is capable of blowing teams away, so how about we start doing it so we don’t have to be put through the shredder every week? I’m not specifically just talking about today, as Villa aren’t a pushover and it was never going to be easy, but so many of our games are going down to the wire. It’s emotionally draining. And yet, we’re six points clear. These late goals are the difference between us and the rest. Games when you’re in trouble and in the past would have lost points, we’re somehow coming away with wins. The ‘lucky Liverpool’ shite that’s being thrown around though is laughable. How were we lucky today? If anything, we were fucking massively unlucky and had all the excuses we needed to justify dropping points. But we didn’t drop points because no matter what is thrown at them, no matter how many setbacks they run into, these lads aren’t phased by any of it and they just go out and win. There was nothing lucky about today. We battered Villa and although the goals came late there’s no doubt we deserved them. If VAR wasn’t the worst thing to ever happen to football we’d have been home and dry long before that anyway. The disallowing of Firmino’s goal was so staggering it was bordering on corrupt. I genuinely don’t know how that can be allowed to happen. Literally the only person on the planet who is saying that is offside is Martin Atkinson. I know the linesman flagged, but I bet when he saw the replay he knew he was wrong. That just leaves Atkinson in his own. Then there’s the handball that wasn’t given. This is exactly the kind of game you normally lose and everyone blames the officials. Not this team though. City won late too but Guardiola decided to talk about us again. In particular, he made reference to Sadio ‘diving’. Interesting. How did he know so quickly that Sadio had been booked today? They probably pay someone to keep an eye on us, the weird obsessed bastards. Who the fuck does this tit think he is though? Sadio isn’t the type to do this, but he should be demanding a public apology. Guardiola has essentially called him a cheat and questioned his integrity. I wouldn’t let it go if it was me, but Sadio will probably just laugh it off and won’t give it a second thought. The u23s won the mini derby today with a winner four minutes from time. Gotta love how these late goals are just a feature right throughout the club. The 18s have had a few this year too. Herbie Kane got this one and it was a cracker. Such a good player him, I can’t understand how he’s ended up stuck here when he’d walk into most teams outside of the Premier League. The other goal was scored by Tony Gallacher, who I’ll be honest, I couldn’t pick out of a line up even though he’s been here a few years. I’ve seen him play a fair few times but can’t ever remember anything about him, good or bad. He must be alright as he’s been kept on when loads of others have been released. Sunday Nov 3: More refereeing and VAR nonsense today and once again Martin Atkinson was involved. He was the on field ref this time, and managed to anger both Everton and Spurs. At least you can’t accuse him of favouritism this time. He’s an equal opportunities shitbird, I’ll give him that. I don’t blame him for sending off Son though, as I’d have done the same thing. Fuck him and his crocodile tears, he committed a petulant, snide foul and now he has to live with the consequences. VAR absolutely ruined this game for anyone inside the stadium though, and this is the thing that isn’t getting enough attention. If you’re at the game and VAR is getting involved, it basically just shits all over your match going experience, sometimes even when decisions go your way. It’s fucking horrible, there are long delays and they still end up with the wrong decision half the time. Fuck it off. Get rid. In other news today, fake news, David Silva is a doubt for next weekend. You know he’s nailed on to play. Same with that Rodri fella who is supposed to be out. Shit, I wouldn’t even be shocked if Sane and Laporte are back in time having been given some illegal, state of the art, miracle treatment. Don’t put anything past these fuckers, they’ll do anything to win. And why the fuck hasn’t Bernardo been dealt with yet? It was meant to be weeks ago. You watch, his hearing will be next week after they’ve been to Anfield. It’s fucking bullshit is what it is. Anyone else would have been banned by now. Something else I saw today and it’s really tickled me. Solskjaer has lost as many Premier Leagues as Klopp, despite being there less than a year and having played 104 games less. That’s one of the most incredible stats I’ve seen. I mean, yeah, United have been shite, but even so that seems mad doesn’t it? I mean who’d have thought that a guy who was out of his depth at Cardiff would do so badly at Manchester United? If only there had been some sort of sign? This is just a teaser, click to view the full article Please note that the Week that Was is only available to website subscribers. Subscriptions cost just £2 a month (you need to register first) and can be purchased here.

All sets of fans are fucking sheep. The other reason I want to win the league is to shut the fuckwits up who go on about us never winning the league. Their bantz will disappear overnight, just like the one about Klopp bottling finals.

And it just don't stop! Loris Karius : More Euro misery for the German on Thursday as the 3-1 defeat at Braga (where he was at fault for at least two of the goals) means that Besiktas are unable to qualify for the knockout phase of the competition. Bounced back with another domestic clean sheet in last night's 1-0 win over Denizlispor, leaving them three points off the top after 11 games. Still spending his international breaks shopping and sunbathing, and it's not like Leno, Neuer or ter Stegen are Dean Henderson, is it now? Sheyi Ojo : Unused sub on Thursday, then got half an hour off the bench yesterday against Livingston once the game was already won. Liam Miller : Came on in the second half for Kilmarnock, who were looking to take advantage of Hamilton being down to 10 men, but could not find a winner as the game finished 2-2. Now away with Canada (which means sitting on a bench next to Dave's Boy (retired) Junior Hoilett, watching Alphonso Davies). Harry Wilson : Scored one of the best goals of the weekend from a immaculately-executed corner for Bournemouth, but couldn't stop them falling to a 2-1 defeat at Newcastle. Now away with Wales (which means sitting as far away from Giggseh as possible, while Daniel James feigns injury). Marko Grujic : Unused substitute against Leipzig as he was scapegoated for the tepid display in the derby defeat by Union, making him blameless for the 4-2 loss to the energy drink-fuelled visitors. Still ignored by the Srbian national team. Nat Phillips : Also an unused substitute by Stuttgart in their 1-0 defeat by Osnabruck. Not on international duty, due to Manchester not being an independent member of FIFA (yet). Taiwo Awoniyi : Not involved as Mainz lost again 2-3 to Union Berlin. He's not getting that all-important international debut this season, is he? Ben Woodburn : Still out injured with his broken foot, missing Oxford's 2-0 FA Cup win at Hayes & Yeading. Misses the chance to be ignored by Giggseh. Rhys Williams : Still out injured with his broken face, missing Kiderminster's 4-2 home defeat by King's Lynn. Misses the chance to flick snot at Bobby Duncan with England Under-19s. Shamal George : Still at Marine. Missed a near-post corner against Pontefract Collieries, cancelling out the opener from pre-season legend and promising young quantity surveyor Craig Lindfield. It finished 1-1. Allan : Played twice for Fluminense this week, a win at Sao Paulo on Thursday followed by defeat at home to Internacional. Six games left, one point above the drop zone, it's looking grim. Kamil Grabara : Huddersfield finally lost a game under the Cowleys, 3-1 at high-flying Preston North End. Could have done better at his near post with the second goal, should avoid the blame for the opener, and the pelanty that finished the scoring was probably unstoppable. Now away with Poland Under-21s, in Bulgaria - not much sunbathing.

It won't be overshadowed in the scorebook.

Other than Klopp and Dejan himself, I'm probably his biggest fan so I'm made up for him today. Loved his celebration after he made that block from Sterling.

could also stand in for the main actor in mr. inbetween