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*Shakes head* Everton again.


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Got to feel for Rafa the man though not Rafa the manager. It's like they see all their ills start and end at his feet because he's 'red and white shite.' Doesnt matter that even since moshiri took over, they've patently got worse, spent loads more money and seem to be sinking faster than ever.

 

I really fear for Rafa. It's not good working in a toxic environment 24/7. I think there's a real danger he'll be gone before the New Year.

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2 minutes ago, dockers_strike said:

Got to feel for Rafa the man though not Rafa the manager. It's like they see all their ills start and end at his feet because he's 'red and white shite.' Doesnt matter that even since moshiri took over, they've patently got worse, spent loads more money and seem to be sinking faster than ever.

 

I really fear for Rafa. It's not good working in a toxic environment 24/7. I think there's a real danger he'll be gone before the New Year.

i honestly couldn't give a shit. he knew what he was walking into and still did it. he mightn't be due all the shit he has coming his way, but he signed up for it. 

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6 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

i honestly couldn't give a shit. he knew what he was walking into and still did it. he mightn't be due all the shit he has coming his way, but he signed up for it. 

Exactly. He was our manager and said the way they played against us was what small clubs do. They then blew it out of all proportion like they do when anything involves us. They despised him for it and never forgave him. 

 

He was well aware of their petty narrow minded thinking yet still went there. The club has been a mess for years and he was aware he would have no money to spend. He could have got a less stressful job elsewhere but for a little less money but he still chose to go there despite being a wealthy man already. 

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Why do people think Rafa is stressed. He doesn’t give a fuck for any opinion except Moshiri’s. As to why he took it, his family are settled on the Wirral and like a lot of older managers he wants to be involved in football, regardless of how much he’s got. 

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2 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Why do people think Rafa is stressed. He doesn’t give a fuck for any opinion except Moshiri’s. As to why he took it, his family are settled on the Wirral and like a lot of older managers he wants to be involved in football, regardless of how much he’s got. 

He knew what they are, I agree he won’t be arsed and if he is he has no one to blame but himself.

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1 hour ago, Anubis said:

Why do people think Rafa is stressed. He doesn’t give a fuck for any opinion except Moshiri’s. As to why he took it, his family are settled on the Wirral and like a lot of older managers he wants to be involved in football, regardless of how much he’s got. 

He might not be stressed. He might be stressed. I couldn't give a fuck either way. Anything that will happen to him (and potentially his family) is on him. He knows they're fucking mental, he went there anyway. 

 

As for his family are settled on the Wirral, he didn't give too much of a fuck about that when he went to China. In fact he comes across going there as a bloke who tried to get as far away from his family as he can. Before Everton, the only English club he was at after us was at Newcastle which is one of the most difficult premier league sides to travel back to the Wirral.  I suspect he went to Everton because they were offering him a salary he thought he couldn't match elsewhere. I've no problem with that, good on him in fact. But that salary came with dealing with them. I can't have any sympathy for him for that. 

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Saint Domingo has been busy today. It’s almost like these conspiracy theories are driven by how shite the Blueshite are…..

 

Saint Domingo

Saint Domingo

Player Valuation: £70m
Definate shades of the Serie A Calciopoli scandal going on in the Premier League these days, the same few clubs getting helped every week, no chance it will be investigated though


Liverpool fans have now had several seasons where it’s a shock to them if they drop a point at the weekend (and there’s usually a media investigation and a referee to blame it on if they do). This isn’t normal football. Same with City. It’s not normal to be going to European away grounds and hitting teams for 4 or 5 season after season. 

The top three in the PL are so far ahead of every team in Europe now except maybe Bayern it’s embarrassing. Liverpool would legitimately expect to batter Madrid Barcelona Juventus Atletico Milan probably even PSG at their own grounds with ease now, maybe not even needing to use their first team. City the same. 

It’s an embarrassing state of affairs and it’s laughable people think it’s just normal or just some good training or ‘teams have always been dominant in the past’. 

United under Ferguson with probably their greatest ever treble winning side needed a performance of a lifetime to get through their CL semi final against Juve, and even then got battered against Bayern in the final that they were lucky to win. They were praying they didn’t draw Real Madrid at any point also. Even when Fergie had his 07-10 team, Ronaldo Rooney Tevez Vidic Ferdinand in their prime. They got outclassed by Milan and Kaka in 07, they won by the slightest margin in 08 after basically defending for their lives against Barcelona, and then got dismantled by Barcelona and then Inter Milan for three years. This is probably the greatest football manager of all time with his greatest teams, featuring some of the best players in premier league history, 


That’s what the CL should be like. Absolute elites of Europe being neck and neck. Not finding you’ve got Roma in the semi finals and going 5-0 up after the first half, or Porto in the quarters and winning 4-0 away in the first leg. The CL now is a complete and utter joke because the elites of English football are now doping beyond belief (both financial and chemical) and the rest of the continent is quite frankly a basket case. Every season now the CL is only between five or six teams. 

City Liverpool Chelsea Bayern PSG Madrid 

No one else has a realistic chance of winning it. Even Madrid and PSG are unlikely to stand a chance this season. It’s become a joke and is nowhere near the competition it was when seeing the best English teams go up against Europe’s best actually provided some thrill and challenge

 

 

Its not just an English football issue, British sport has turned a blind eye to doping in the last 10 - 15 years.


Agreed. British cycling and athletics has been disgraceful as well yet as long as teams keep winning everyone is happy to turn a blind eye.

 


These Americans have form with doping and cheating already, numerous allegations against their Red Sox teams as well. That’s probably why they brought Klopp in in the first place. 
Klopp and Guardiola are, in my view, two of the biggest cheats in football, and they’re at institutions that are perfectly happy for them to get away with it. The 99/98 point season with both teams just winning every week, week after week after week was honestly just obscene for anyone who likes competitive football. Anyone with a brain cell could see that was completely unnatural for any side to achieve let alone two in the same season, let alone with both teams achieving a similar standard either the season before or after also.

 

 

 


Football has its poison everywhere. Foreign leagues are rife with organised match fixing, the premier league is rife with corrupt refereeing, fixture list manipulation, and doping. 

Frankly wherever major money flows then corruption and cheating will follow it. Fine if people accept it but it’s just ridiculous that we’re now at a point when there’s barely a side in Europe who could give City or Liverpool a game in a CL two leg tie. None would start as favourite. Bayern Chelsea PSG Madrid you might hope could maybe match them but anyone else you’d be looking at a heavy defeat by multiple goals unless Pep has thrown one of his crazy formations out again. Liverpool could probably beat the majority of the CL knockout teams with their B team, and people think this is completely normal,

 

 

 

They were cycling off last season hence why they lost 6 at home in a row (even against us!). As soon as they flicked the switch they’ve lost once in 30 games since I think. Madrid got them just at the right time in that lull. That won’t happen this season as they’re back mid cycle now. 

That Atletico game was a freak. There was one of Europe’s top teams and Liverpool ran over them at Anfield like they were a pub team. Their dominance was absolutely unbelievable, Atletico couldn’t get out. They got saved by Oblak so many times and Liverpool eventually succumbed to a few counters as they got ragged chasing the game. That game could have been 5-0 to Liverpool in the first half though, never seen anything like it. Completely unnatural.

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, liverpoolsno9 said:

Saint Domingo has been busy today. It’s almost like these conspiracy theories are driven by how shite the Blueshite are…..

 

Saint Domingo

Saint Domingo

Player Valuation: £70m
Definate shades of the Serie A Calciopoli scandal going on in the Premier League these days, the same few clubs getting helped every week, no chance it will be investigated though


Liverpool fans have now had several seasons where it’s a shock to them if they drop a point at the weekend (and there’s usually a media investigation and a referee to blame it on if they do). This isn’t normal football. Same with City. It’s not normal to be going to European away grounds and hitting teams for 4 or 5 season after season. 

The top three in the PL are so far ahead of every team in Europe now except maybe Bayern it’s embarrassing. Liverpool would legitimately expect to batter Madrid Barcelona Juventus Atletico Milan probably even PSG at their own grounds with ease now, maybe not even needing to use their first team. City the same. 

It’s an embarrassing state of affairs and it’s laughable people think it’s just normal or just some good training or ‘teams have always been dominant in the past’. 

United under Ferguson with probably their greatest ever treble winning side needed a performance of a lifetime to get through their CL semi final against Juve, and even then got battered against Bayern in the final that they were lucky to win. They were praying they didn’t draw Real Madrid at any point also. Even when Fergie had his 07-10 team, Ronaldo Rooney Tevez Vidic Ferdinand in their prime. They got outclassed by Milan and Kaka in 07, they won by the slightest margin in 08 after basically defending for their lives against Barcelona, and then got dismantled by Barcelona and then Inter Milan for three years. This is probably the greatest football manager of all time with his greatest teams, featuring some of the best players in premier league history, 


That’s what the CL should be like. Absolute elites of Europe being neck and neck. Not finding you’ve got Roma in the semi finals and going 5-0 up after the first half, or Porto in the quarters and winning 4-0 away in the first leg. The CL now is a complete and utter joke because the elites of English football are now doping beyond belief (both financial and chemical) and the rest of the continent is quite frankly a basket case. Every season now the CL is only between five or six teams. 

City Liverpool Chelsea Bayern PSG Madrid 

No one else has a realistic chance of winning it. Even Madrid and PSG are unlikely to stand a chance this season. It’s become a joke and is nowhere near the competition it was when seeing the best English teams go up against Europe’s best actually provided some thrill and challenge

 

 

Its not just an English football issue, British sport has turned a blind eye to doping in the last 10 - 15 years.


Agreed. British cycling and athletics has been disgraceful as well yet as long as teams keep winning everyone is happy to turn a blind eye.

 


These Americans have form with doping and cheating already, numerous allegations against their Red Sox teams as well. That’s probably why they brought Klopp in in the first place. 
Klopp and Guardiola are, in my view, two of the biggest cheats in football, and they’re at institutions that are perfectly happy for them to get away with it. The 99/98 point season with both teams just winning every week, week after week after week was honestly just obscene for anyone who likes competitive football. Anyone with a brain cell could see that was completely unnatural for any side to achieve let alone two in the same season, let alone with both teams achieving a similar standard either the season before or after also.

 

 

 


Football has its poison everywhere. Foreign leagues are rife with organised match fixing, the premier league is rife with corrupt refereeing, fixture list manipulation, and doping. 

Frankly wherever major money flows then corruption and cheating will follow it. Fine if people accept it but it’s just ridiculous that we’re now at a point when there’s barely a side in Europe who could give City or Liverpool a game in a CL two leg tie. None would start as favourite. Bayern Chelsea PSG Madrid you might hope could maybe match them but anyone else you’d be looking at a heavy defeat by multiple goals unless Pep has thrown one of his crazy formations out again. Liverpool could probably beat the majority of the CL knockout teams with their B team, and people think this is completely normal,

 

 

 

They were cycling off last season hence why they lost 6 at home in a row (even against us!). As soon as they flicked the switch they’ve lost once in 30 games since I think. Madrid got them just at the right time in that lull. That won’t happen this season as they’re back mid cycle now. 

That Atletico game was a freak. There was one of Europe’s top teams and Liverpool ran over them at Anfield like they were a pub team. Their dominance was absolutely unbelievable, Atletico couldn’t get out. They got saved by Oblak so many times and Liverpool eventually succumbed to a few counters as they got ragged chasing the game. That game could have been 5-0 to Liverpool in the first half though, never seen anything like it. Completely unnatural.

 

 

 

Fucking Wibble.

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Fucking hell. Imagine coming up with all these nonsense theories rather than admitting your club has been shite for 3 decades and have been left behind.

 

Nothing to do with the fact that the PL is more competitive than any other league, there's more access to scouting, watching opposition play and any half decent player or team being known inside out before playing them. 

 

Most of the best managers in the world are here with different tactics, nutrition and recovery than 25 years ago. Higher revenue, higher wages and worldwide exposure attracting the world's best players. 

 

But no, because Everton are fucking shit and had 3 good seasons in the 1980s Liverpool get all their players to take drugs that turn them into Captain America without the footballing authorities being able to detect it.

 

Weird the way some bitter miserable sad Brian Labone 1=20 shithouse who posts on an Everton forum knows this but UEFA and the Premier League can't catch out the drug taking Liverpool players. 

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