Noel Gallagher quits Oasis

[RoboRiise]

Some fair points made there and very well put. I would have to disagree to an extent about a whole new generation of fans discovering their music though. One of the things which has stood out about the last couple of times I have been to Oasis gigs is the amount of 16-17-18 year olds there who would have bbeen what 3 or 4 years old when Oasis were really in their heyday in the mid 90's. There is a whole new generation right there.

 

Go back to (What's the Story)Morning Glory which everybody raves about. It is a good album but nowhere near their best. Noel has even admitted as much as well. He said it is the best seller but not the best. Roll With It and Some Might Say aren't great songs by any stretch of the imagination but they got released as singles. Like I say I don't think they are anywhere near Oasis best. Their latter albums (especially the last two) have far better songs on than those two I have mentioned there.

 

Don't Believe The Truth in particular has moments where it pisses all over Morning Glory.

 

I just think it is a bit of a sweeping generelisation to say they haven't done anything worthwhile since 95 when I can think of twenty odd songs off the top of my head straight away which is better than anything that was on Morning GLory.

 

 

Regarding the part I highlighted, I should have been a bit clearer with my comments. I agree that there has been a new generation of music fans that have got into their music since they started out; their career spans the best part of twenty years and there are lads I work with that went to see them at Heaton Park this year who would have just been starting infant school back when I was scrabbling around Manchester trying to pull in favours to get tickets for their Maine Road gig in '96.

 

Having said that, most of them had their interest piqued by the band's more recent releases and then began to investigate their back catalog, something I'm sure we've all done with at least one band. Without the impetus given by any more new releases, I'm not sure that there will be a sufficient hook there for many new fans to become aware of the band to begin with. Maybe that's not true now and maybe it won't be for the next five years or so but I think after that, the amount of radio airplay they get will diminish and they will slowly slip into relative obscurity.

 

Of course, a lot of that depends on what Noel gets up to with his solo career, or even his new band if he ends up with one. God only knows what Liam and the rest of them will do, whether they'll keep at it or not. I guess Liam might surprise everybody; after all there is a precedent for a mancunian band with a less than stellar lead singer splitting up and said singer being the only one to forge a successful solo career, although I suppose Mani is hardly slumming it as a member of Primal Scream. Time will tell.

[Guest]

Anyone who doesn't like Oasis is a manc

[snez1]

Best debut album ever?

 

That wasn't made my a Gallagher, it was made by Brown, Squire, Mani and Reni.

 

Oasis splitting could be great. Noel on his own is something i've wanted to see for years instead of the stream of decent/average albums Oasis have been releasing over the last decade.

[RoboRiise]

Anyone who doesn't like Oasis is a manc

 

 

There was me thinking we were having an intelligent discussion. I'm not sure what's funnier, the neg itself or the fact that it was for my post calling Liam a loudmouthed cunt and expressing my sympathy for Noel, a point that even the most vociferous Oasis fans don't appear to have argued with so far.

 

You got one thing right though, I am from Greater Manchester. I'm assuming that's what you meant by a manc anyway, although I'm not sure how that works since the objects of your desire are from Burnage. If it was a reference to the forbidden sport though, you can secure that shit Hudson, or at least call me something less unpleasant. A shit-eating, dog-wanking, uncle-fucking ponce, for example.

[Guest]

There was me thinking we were having an intelligent discussion. I'm not sure what's funnier, the neg itself or the fact that it was for my post calling Liam a loudmouthed cunt and expressing my sympathy for Noel, a point that even the most vociferous Oasis fans don't appear to have argued with so far.

 

You got one thing right though, I am from Greater Manchester. I'm assuming that's what you meant by a manc anyway, although I'm not sure how that works since the objects of your desire are from Burnage. If it was a reference to the forbidden sport though, you can secure that shit Hudson, or at least call me something less unpleasant. A shit-eating, dog-wanking, uncle-fucking ponce, for example.

 

I'm only having a laugh fella, nothing more.

[Total Longo]

What about sex bekeorna?

 

Fuck, sex, bitch, a yeah yeah.

[Total Longo]

Probably in a minority here, but I don't rate Morning Glory as an album. I remember buying it when it came out and feeling profoundly disappointed. Especially disappointing after the excitement I felt after hearing Definitely Maybe for the first time. Every other Oasis record has got more going for it than that one, possibly because Wonderwall and Don't Look Back in Anger were so relentlessly overplayed at the time. Champagne Supernova and Morning Glory are excellent tracks still but the rest i just cannot listen to. I did a best of Oasis compilation the other month for the car and there weren't that many singles on it, and the only 2 tracks from Morning Glory were the two i mentioned before.

[sh#t waffle]

Probably in a minority here, but I don't rate Morning Glory as an album. I remember buying it when it came out and feeling profoundly disappointed. Especially disappointing after the excitement I felt after hearing Definitely Maybe for the first time. Every other Oasis record has got more going for it than that one, possibly because Wonderwall and Don't Look Back in Anger were so relentlessly overplayed at the time. Champagne Supernova and Morning Glory are excellent tracks still but the rest i just cannot listen to. I did a best of Oasis compilation the other month for the car and there weren't that many singles on it, and the only 2 tracks from Morning Glory were the two i mentioned before.

 

It's grown on me with time, I love the sound of 'Hello' and the title track. I think it's almost shorthand for the most prolific period of their career. If you took 'Roll With It', 'Hey Now' off and put 'Acquiesce' and 'The Masterplan' on then you'd have a stunning album.

 

I'm personally pretty relieved about this. The longer they carried on, the more the 'Stevie Wonder effect' kicked in - by which I mean the fact because Marvin Gaye got shot before he could make anything like 'I Just Called to Say I Love You', he gets a far easier critical ride. They may have made some sub par albums since, but between 1994 and 1996 they were my favourite rock 'n' roll band of all time. I'm not saying they were necessarily the best, but they were my favourite.

[Gav]

Best song they ever made

 

YouTube - Oasis - Champagne Supernova

 

Didnt buy a single thing from them since this

[Gav]

Behave...

 

 

great call ,now thats a great debut album ....Its Hard to see past Led Zepplin or Piper at the Gates of Dawn for me as the best ever debut album.

Best modern debut album for me is Arcade Fires Funeral

 

 

 

 

Gotta love the threads this topics thrown up ...pick has to be the quote about that mong Cahill

 

 

"I don't know, there is something about him. I would love to kick him right in the bollocks. He has just got one of those faces. Don't you find his face really slapable? I can assure you, lots of people in England do."

[chris71]

Bloody hell, didn't realise these hairy mancs were loved so much. My reppage is suffering a full on arse tearing for stating they only had two decent albums.

All that kept them in the limelight for about 10 years was these so called break ups ,Liam's a cunt ,Noel's a cunt arguments between themselves. Only to return again for some tour or festival.

Don't burn your Parka's yet girls they more than likely will return to collect a bit more green when someone sticks a couple of million under there nose for some gig next year.

[old skool tom]

thank fuck for that! now noel can write some quality acoustic solo stuff!............hopefully he'll team up with mick head out of shack and create a northwest supergroup!

[Woo]

Behave...

 

 

Nah. No chance.

[RoboRiise]

I'm only having a laugh fella, nothing more.

 

 

S'alright mate, I was just jerking your chain.

 

Peace and love, peace and love.

 

Anyway a quick detour off topic since the subject of debut albums has reared it's head. I wouldn't necessarily say any of these are the best ever (and it's obviously subjective anyway) but these all spring to mind as very good efforts.

 

Edited August 30, 2009 by RoboRiise

[rargh]

Nah. No chance.

 

Chance.

[Vincent Vega]

S'alright mate, I was just jerking your chain.

 

Peace and love, peace and love.

 

Anyway a quick detour off topic since the subject of debut albums has reared it's head. I wouldn't necessarily say any of these are the best ever (and it's obviously subjective anyway) but these all spring to mind as very good efforts.

 

 

Some excellent shouts there RR, I'd also nominate the following:

 

[Total Longo]

 

Nailed it.

[Woo]

Chance.

 

Nah. No chance.

[Total Longo]

other great debuts not previously mentioned.

and a possibly controversial choice....

[rargh]

Anyone who thinks that Definitely Maybe is a better debut album than Appetite For Destruction is a bad, bad biff.

[Woo]

Anyone who thinks that Appetite For Destruction is a better debut album than Definitely Maybe is a bad, bad biff.

[rargh]

Anyone who thinks that Appetite For Destruction is a better debut album than Definitely Maybe is a bad, bad biff.

 

"WEEEE'LL 'AVE LEEEEEEER-SAANNNNNNNNNNNNN-YYYYYYYYYERRRRRRRRRRR!!!!"

 

Phew!

[Chinandeler Bong]

Noel joined oasis after hearing of Liam's decision to start a group , most fans will know this , they didnt take it seriously - i mean you cant when it comes to music - they had the right attitiude , listen to Cigs and Alcohol and youll hear that they were just taking the piss and trying to have a laugh but people caught on to it and the dynamics of the brothers Gallagher . A record company ownere missed his train and decided to pop into a club for a quick bevvie unbeknown to him oasis are performing , he hears Liams voice and notices his swagger and well ........ the rest is history .

 

Two chancers from Manchester were offered a 6 album record deal and along with it the perks of the rocknroll lifestyle that brings , who's gonna say no to that ? ?

 

They dont give a shit if you like their tunes and never did , they did it for them , they did it because its better than being on the dole and its better than working for British fuckin Gas .

 

Its neither here nor there for them , thats why they are loved as they are , they dont beg you to buy their records with stupid fucking endorsements of Apple products or fuckin Blackberry phones , they have never sold their soul and they never will .

 

You like em or you dont , its no bother to them , but thats the beauty of music - it chooses you , you dont choose it . Its natural . There is no wrong or right , it is what it is . There are no rules in rock n roll . There is nothing conceptually better than Rock n Roll.

[kelster]

 

 

 

Amongst others......

[ISeeRed]

I once backpacked round Europe (as you do) and remember staying at some youth hostel type place in the middle of Austria. There was this loud/stoned/drunk Aussie guy there who couldn't/wouldn't stop singing 'Wonderwall' at breakfast at the top of his voice - the first time was sort of OK in a takes-all-sorts/peace 'n' tolerance/it's-a-pretty-good-song-anyway kind of way, but he just wouldn't stop being an arse & everyone started getting fed up with him, then after about 10 renditions of 'so maybeeeeeeeeeeeeeee youre gonna be the one that saves meeeeeeeeeeeeee' a few people told him to stfu, then chucked salt cellars/cutlery at him, then a stupid fight erupted and it all got a bit nasty. Kind of sums up the band, really.