RTK...

[Seamus]

Because we don't need a campaign to have Anfield rocking for a game against Barcelona, or for any European night.

 

They'll be taking credit for something which is fucking inevitable anyway.

 

 

Err, what about Bordeaux and PSV? The behaviour of some of the Main Standers was shite especially against Bordeaux.

 

And to be fair surely todays RTK bulletin is aimed at these people?

 

Also the point about getting in early is a damn fine one, its depressing singing YNWA in a half empty stadium.

[Brod]

because whatever question you try to ask is deemed a personal attack and answered with a "fuck off you wool/daytripper/OOt "answer

 

So you're saying you asked a question and were greeted with that response?

[Brod]

Something along the lines of "where the fuck was your initiative for the Sheff Utd game?"

 

 

Go on then mouth.

 

Do it.

[The Bugged Out]

really good effort selecting the barca game.

 

it was bound to be dead wasn't it

 

fucking plum

[Brod]

So am I right in guessing when it was the Kops last stand and flyers were distributed to tell everyone to get in there and get it going with your flags and colours it was met with the same distain?

 

I think not somehow.

 

People have just drawn their own conclusions about RTK without even reading what it's all about.

[The Bugged Out]

people have an opinion you dont agree with so therefore we dont know what its about?

 

yeah nice one

[Brod]

So you're telling me you know what it's all about?

 

What part don't you agree with then?

[dave u]

I think people are making it pretty clear what they don't agree with.

 

Can you tell us why RTK make a big deal out of big games, when the atmosphere is going to be fine anyway, but did nothing for Shgeffield United? It's a legitimate question.

 

The best atmosphere we've had possibly ever was for Chelsea in 2005. Juve was fantastic too, and it was done without RTK. Barca would be exactly the same, with or without RTK. The point about getting in early and bringing flags etc is a fair one, and I don't have any issue with RTK trying to make sure everyone gets in early etc.

 

I just think that ignoring the Sheff Utd game and then making an effort for Barca is really sending out the wrong message. It smacks of glory hunting.

 

I think the hostility towards RTK is unnecessary, but it is a mystery why they only seem to be up for the big games.

[Wig]

I think RTK's got itself all tangled up (accidentally I assume) with the burn-the-OOTer brigade. Maybe more of an effort needs to be made (away from the RTK site) to confirm that OOTers aren't unwanted, and that being a scouser is not a requirement for being a Kopite.

 

Like it or not, the impression you get from some of statements made is going to scare people off. And people aren't going to visit a site they assume is hostile to be told that maybe it isn't hostile after all.

 

Thats exactly right. Some lads who I know want the Kop 'scouse' with no wools whatsoever. Even to the point where they don't want wools going to away games too.

This RTK thing is perfect for them to carry this argument out.

[Brod]

I think people are making it pretty clear what they don't agree with.

 

Can you tell us why RTK make a big deal out of big games, when the atmosphere is going to be fine anyway, but did nothing for Shgeffield United? It's a legitimate question.

 

The best atmosphere we've had possibly ever was for Chelsea in 2005. Juve was fantastic too, and it was done without RTK. Barca would be exactly the same, with or without RTK. The point about getting in early and bringing flags etc is a fair one, and I don't have any issue with RTK trying to make sure everyone gets in early etc.

 

I just think that ignoring the Sheff Utd game and then making an effort for Barca is really sending out the wrong message. It smacks of glory hunting.

 

I think the hostility towards RTK is unnecessary, but it is a mystery why they only seem to be up for the big games.

 

I've no doubt that the Sheffield Utd question isn't legitimate. All I'm saying is rather than sitting in a corner grumbling about it why not get a bit pro active and find out why through the official RTK website? If you feel it's a problem then why not be the solution? Join in, offer ideas and help the cause.

 

Granted about the other atmospheres but what about when we went out with a whimper (as holders) to Benfica at the same stage last season?

 

I just don't see how todays statement has wound people up so much. It didn't me. I'll be doing all those things without prompting and don't need to be told how to behave in Anfield but so what? Good on them for putting it out.

 

I also think glory hunting is a bit strong as RTK have never been about patting themselves on the back.

[rome 84]

The point about RTK and the big games is a fair one. But you have to bear in mind that when any campaign starts it needs successes because an early failure could kill it off before it even gets going.

That's why they have to target games like Barca and get a bit of momentum going from there.

I've no doubt that the atmosphere would be special against Barca no matter what but if RTK add just 1% to it by encouraging people to get in early and presenting an almost official front then that can only be a good thing.

[El Rojo]

This RTK campaign seems to be getting a lot of unwarranted abuse.

 

Plenty have moaned on here about the lack of atmosphere at Anfield in recent times, they seem to be working towards doing something positive about it.

 

It doesn't seem to have an anti-OOT agenda either, despite the accusations.

 

Maybe it's a bit naiive choosing a game that will have a cracking atmosphere anyway, but at least they're trying to improve things. Surely that's a good thing?

[Cardie]

I also think glory hunting is a bit strong as RTK have never been about patting themselves on the back.

 

That's all they seem to have done.

[Brod]

That's all they seem to have done.

 

 

Can you give me an example please?

[Cardie]

Maybe it's a bit naiive choosing a game that will have a cracking atmosphere anyway, but at least they're trying to improve things. Surely that's a good thing?

 

They've picked all the big games and left all the smaller ones.

 

Maybe we should start a campaign to get Anfield sold out every game, I propose we target Barcelona, Chelsea, Everton and Utd......job done.

[Brod]

They've picked all the big games and left all the smaller ones.

 

Maybe we should start a campaign to get Anfield sold out every game, I propose we target Barcelona, Chelsea, Everton and Utd......job done.

 

 

Why don't you then?

 

This is what does my head in.

 

A group of lads are TRYING to improve things but people like you just bleat about it without doing anything yourself.

 

Put up or shut up.

[Barrington Womble]

This RTK campaign seems to be getting a lot of unwarranted abuse.

 

Plenty have moaned on here about the lack of atmosphere at Anfield in recent times, they seem to be working towards doing something positive about it.

 

It doesn't seem to have an anti-OOT agenda either, despite the accusations.

 

Maybe it's a bit naiive choosing a game that will have a cracking atmosphere anyway, but at least they're trying to improve things. Surely that's a good thing?

 

Yes but the initial poster has an anti-scouse agenda - so being asked to act in a manner more in keeping with Liverpool fans, which by default would be scousers, means he feels he needs to stick the boot in.

[Cardie]

Why don't you then?

 

Just did.

 

You will now find their will by high demand for Barca and Utd tickets.

[The Bugged Out]

Sanctimonious rubbish

[Brod]

Just did.

 

You will now find their will by high demand for Barca and Utd tickets.

 

Not really into having a proper debate about this then?

[Brod]

Sanctimonious rubbish

 

Why do you feel that about it?

 

What don't you like?

[Mark P]

Maybe chat to or meet some of the lads involved? See what what they've got to say about your issues?

[Cardie]

It's about inclusion not exclusion don't ya know.

[Gav]

I posted some - I thought - constructive criticism over on the RTK forum and basically got told to fuck off.

 

I think the words used were "I wish they'd all fuck off".

 

Fucking charming.

 

Ditto , only add the words Woolie cunt to the Reply

 

We don't care what your name is boy

We'll never turn you away...............

[Gav]

Why don't you then?

 

This is what does my head in.

 

A group of lads are TRYING to improve things but people like you just bleat about it without doing anything yourself.

 

Put up or shut up.

 

Nice ... Never liked that free speech bollocks anyway .Dictatorship is a much more pleasant option