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Israel - A Rant


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^^^^^Western media.^^^^^

 

Elon Musk, the billionaire owner of the social media platform X, has said that the terms "decolonisation" and "from the river to the sea" implicitly call for genocide.

He said that "clear calls for extreme violence are against our terms of service and will result in suspension".

Earlier this week, Musk said the term "decolonisation" implied the genocide of Jewish people.

The slogan "from the river to the sea" has been around for decades among Palestinians and pro-Palestinian campaigners, and refers to liberating the territory that exists between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea in historic Palestine.

But many Israelis and supporters of Israel have claimed that the chant effectively calls for genocide and implies the destruction of Israel.

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2 hours ago, TheHowieLama said:

^^^^^Western media.^^^^^

 

Elon Musk, the billionaire owner of the social media platform X, has said that the terms "decolonisation" and "from the river to the sea" implicitly call for genocide.

He said that "clear calls for extreme violence are against our terms of service and will result in suspension".

Earlier this week, Musk said the term "decolonisation" implied the genocide of Jewish people.

The slogan "from the river to the sea" has been around for decades among Palestinians and pro-Palestinian campaigners, and refers to liberating the territory that exists between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea in historic Palestine.

But many Israelis and supporters of Israel have claimed that the chant effectively calls for genocide and implies the destruction of Israel.


Did he say whether or not the same applies to Israelis and Jews using the terms? They do.

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2 hours ago, Gnasher said:

Saudi's not showing much solidarity. 

 

A few folks are going to be walking a tightrope for awhile.

 

MBZ has his hands full.

 

The government of the United Arab Emirates (UAE) has great sympathy for the Palestinian people, but it is clear-eyed about Hamas, which it has long recognized to be a terrorist organization. Therefore, it was unsurprising that the UAE, joined by its Abraham Accords partner Bahrain, would issue the Arab world’s strongest condemnations of Hamas soon after October 7. They referred to Hamas’s escalation as “serious and grave” or “dangerous” for the region, and the UAE specifically noted that it was “appalled” by Hamas taking Israeli citizens as hostages, while Bahrain issued a “denunciation” of the kidnappings. In contrast, their neighbor Qatar declared “Israel alone is responsible for the current escalation”—a view that is sadly much more representative of the Arab street. And given how vocal the UAE has been in promoting the Abraham Accords over the last three years, the government feels especially exposed and vulnerable to shifts in Arab public opinion now.

A senior government official here told me that they were proud of that statement—the feeling I heard from many here was that it was the right thing to do. That said, they also knew in advance that the cost for positioning the UAE as “a voice of reason”—another phrase I heard repeated several times—would not be cheap. And in both domestic and pan-Arab social media the country is paying that price today. At the same time, UAE officials have also made clear that economic ties between Emiratis and Israelis would continue despite the coming war and that, as Emirati Minister of State for Foreign Trade Thani bin Ahmed Al Zeyoudi put it, “We don’t mix the economy and trade with politics.”

 

 

UAE hosts the COP28 in a couple weeks - Netanyahu and Israel are one of the invitees. 

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Israel and Hezbollah traded rocket and missile near the Lebanese-Israeli border on Saturday.

Hezbollah said it shot down an Israeli drone in the early hours of the morning, while the Israeli military said it intercepted a missile fired at an Israeli drone.

An Israeli air strike hit a building in an industrial area near the town of Nabatieh in southern Lebanon, according to a Lebanese official.

The attack is one of the deepest Israeli strikes inside Lebanese territory since 7 October. 

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1 hour ago, TheHowieLama said:

 

A few folks are going to be walking a tightrope for awhile.

 

MBZ has his hands full.

 

The government of the United Arab Emirates (UAE) has great sympathy for the Palestinian people, but it is clear-eyed about Hamas, which it has long recognized to be a terrorist organization. Therefore, it was unsurprising that the UAE, joined by its Abraham Accords partner Bahrain, would issue the Arab world’s strongest condemnations of Hamas soon after October 7. They referred to Hamas’s escalation as “serious and grave” or “dangerous” for the region, and the UAE specifically noted that it was “appalled” by Hamas taking Israeli citizens as hostages, while Bahrain issued a “denunciation” of the kidnappings. In contrast, their neighbor Qatar declared “Israel alone is responsible for the current escalation”—a view that is sadly much more representative of the Arab street. And given how vocal the UAE has been in promoting the Abraham Accords over the last three years, the government feels especially exposed and vulnerable to shifts in Arab public opinion now.

A senior government official here told me that they were proud of that statement—the feeling I heard from many here was that it was the right thing to do. That said, they also knew in advance that the cost for positioning the UAE as “a voice of reason”—another phrase I heard repeated several times—would not be cheap. And in both domestic and pan-Arab social media the country is paying that price today. At the same time, UAE officials have also made clear that economic ties between Emiratis and Israelis would continue despite the coming war and that, as Emirati Minister of State for Foreign Trade Thani bin Ahmed Al Zeyoudi put it, “We don’t mix the economy and trade with politics.”

 

 

UAE hosts the COP28 in a couple weeks - Netanyahu and Israel are one of the invitees. 


A lot of Western and Arab governments (and people) can learn a lot from the UAE about making the right choices for tolerance and economic prosperity.

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31 minutes ago, Planet Origi said:

We should stick to CNN and BBC only.

 

 

Nah, tweets are ace.

Especially if they have 85 views.

From three weeks ago.

From an account that joined 6 months ago.

And has 1500 followers.

Especially in lieu of any other source for a subject literally being plastered across all media in the last few days.

 

Those are definitely not "searched". Those are researched. 

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I've realised that you probably didn't see the tweet or the context of the post.

 

@Planet Origi

Do you see any parallels between the Houthis actions/situation and Hamas'?

Is there a bit of irony in UAE/Saudi reaching out to Israel for help there?

On the rep herself - do you see any duplicitousness in the UAE's statement on the "separation" of economy/trade with politics being echoed by a wealthy UAE/Palestinian diplomat after the Palestinian demonstrations against that relationship with Israel not so long ago?

 

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1 hour ago, TheHowieLama said:

 

 

Nah, tweets are ace.

Especially if they have 85 views.

From three weeks ago.

From an account that joined 6 months ago.

And has 1500 followers.

Especially in lieu of any other source for a subject literally being plastered across all media in the last few days.

 

Those are definitely not "searched". Those are researched. 


That tweet has a video recording of the UAE rep’s speech at the UN. What does it matter if it had 85 or 85,000 views? Are you questioning the authenticity of the video?

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9 minutes ago, Jurgen Knows said:


That tweet has a video recording of the UAE rep’s speech at the UN. What does it matter if it had 85 or 85,000 views? Are you questioning the authenticity of the video?

 

Nope - just pointing out it's current relevance. That and the odds of that particular source being what anyone would choose as an example of it given her numerous media bytes just a few days ago.

 

Wish I had seen the link to the Candace Owens content earlier.

She's great isn't she?

Can you post her chat with Tucker Carlson the other day for the interested folks?

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16 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

 

Nope - just pointing out it's current relevance. That and the odds of that particular source being what anyone would choose as an example of it given her numerous media bytes just a few days ago.

 

I have no idea what you’re on about. I really don’t.

 

16 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

 

Wish I had seen the link to the Candace Owens content earlier.

She's great isn't she?

Can you post her chat with Tucker Carlson the other day for the interested folks?


I haven’t seen her other chats, but if you feel they are relevant then why don’t you go ahead and post them yourself?

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