Boxing 2022

[Kevin D]

https://www.boxingscene.com/liam-smith-trainer-says-threats-forced-smith-fight-eubank-earlier-desired--177507

 

According to McNally, he had advised Smith to not fight on Sept 2., saying his charge would not be physically ready by that time. McNally also expressed his disappointment with the organizers of the fight, Boxxer, Smith's promoter, for not striving harder to protect Smith.

 

“This is a fact, my own self, as his coach, said, ‘Son, there’s no way you can fight this date. You’re too heavy,'” McNally told Boxing News+. “You’re gonna need at least eight to 10 weeks to get the weight off. On the consensus that his back wasn’t 100% to do his road work, to put the work in to get the weight off to start camp. It’s a bit harsh. His weight was good until the injury. [Smith said], ‘No, I’ll do it, I’ll do it, I’ll do it.’

 

"And he literally had to be in—I ran the numbers eight weeks out with the nutritionist—he had to be in a 15,000-calorie deficiency a week. One thing in life that don’t lie is numbers. And sometimes, theoretically, that can be contradictory because of the autonomy of the human body, but he had to be in a major calorific deficiency the whole of the camp and fight week even worse. We had check weight testings, two or three of them, and he hit the goals. But he hit the goals and [was] f-----. Not hitting the goals and being full of beans. He hit the goals and he was shattered. On fight night, only people with two glass eyes couldn’t see that he was f-----. I asked for the fight to be moved. I’m just disappointed in the people behind the promotions and sh!t like that obviously didn’t listen, and the threats that came to Liam.”

 

 

Asked why there was not a concerted effort to reschedule the fight once more, given Smith's injury, McNally claimed Eubank and his promoter, Kalle and Nisse Sauerland of Wasserman Boxing, were threatening to pivot to a Conor Benn fight if Smith did not agree to the Sept. 2 date. (Indeed, there were reports that Eubank was seriously considering a fight with Benn while he was in discussions with Smith. Moreover, Eddie Hearn, Benn’s promoter, suggested in several interviews that he believed a Eubank-Benn fight was likely.) McNally also claimed that Smith, as well as Boxxer and Sky, the broadcaster of the fight, were under threat of being sued by Team Eubank.

 

I said to Liam, you can’t fight this date,” McNally said. “Look, the facts that I got is, well, if I don’t accept this date, Chris is gone. I’ve lost the fight. Then he’s left in limbo, which the fight he got threatened with is Chris is gonna fight Conor Benn. But that fight was never going to happen anytime soon because obviously Conor’s gotta sort the stuff out with the [British Boxing] Board [of Control] and then he weren’t involved in the fight if it went ahead in Saudi and lose all our licenses.

 

“So, they’re literally shooting themselves in the foot. And then the other threat is if we changed the date—so when you’re training and your back’s f----- you need to go and get a doctor’s report and evaluation. He’s injured still. Sauerlands would sue Liam and the promotion and Sky for loss of earnings. That’s a fact. The Sauerlands got a broadcasting deal with Sky so why would they sue Sky and Liam for loss of earnings? He’s injured. There are letters. It’s just a load of bullsh!t, mate. It’s disappointing, isn’t that we could’ve had a cracking Eubank-Smith 2, but we got a bit of farce, really, haven’t we?"

[an tha]

On 06/09/2023 at 00:43, Kevin D said:

https://www.boxingscene.com/liam-smith-trainer-says-threats-forced-smith-fight-eubank-earlier-desired--177507

 

According to McNally, he had advised Smith to not fight on Sept 2., saying his charge would not be physically ready by that time. McNally also expressed his disappointment with the organizers of the fight, Boxxer, Smith's promoter, for not striving harder to protect Smith.

 

“This is a fact, my own self, as his coach, said, ‘Son, there’s no way you can fight this date. You’re too heavy,'” McNally told Boxing News+. “You’re gonna need at least eight to 10 weeks to get the weight off. On the consensus that his back wasn’t 100% to do his road work, to put the work in to get the weight off to start camp. It’s a bit harsh. His weight was good until the injury. [Smith said], ‘No, I’ll do it, I’ll do it, I’ll do it.’

 

"And he literally had to be in—I ran the numbers eight weeks out with the nutritionist—he had to be in a 15,000-calorie deficiency a week. One thing in life that don’t lie is numbers. And sometimes, theoretically, that can be contradictory because of the autonomy of the human body, but he had to be in a major calorific deficiency the whole of the camp and fight week even worse. We had check weight testings, two or three of them, and he hit the goals. But he hit the goals and [was] f-----. Not hitting the goals and being full of beans. He hit the goals and he was shattered. On fight night, only people with two glass eyes couldn’t see that he was f-----. I asked for the fight to be moved. I’m just disappointed in the people behind the promotions and sh!t like that obviously didn’t listen, and the threats that came to Liam.”

 

 

Asked why there was not a concerted effort to reschedule the fight once more, given Smith's injury, McNally claimed Eubank and his promoter, Kalle and Nisse Sauerland of Wasserman Boxing, were threatening to pivot to a Conor Benn fight if Smith did not agree to the Sept. 2 date. (Indeed, there were reports that Eubank was seriously considering a fight with Benn while he was in discussions with Smith. Moreover, Eddie Hearn, Benn’s promoter, suggested in several interviews that he believed a Eubank-Benn fight was likely.) McNally also claimed that Smith, as well as Boxxer and Sky, the broadcaster of the fight, were under threat of being sued by Team Eubank.

 

I said to Liam, you can’t fight this date,” McNally said. “Look, the facts that I got is, well, if I don’t accept this date, Chris is gone. I’ve lost the fight. Then he’s left in limbo, which the fight he got threatened with is Chris is gonna fight Conor Benn. But that fight was never going to happen anytime soon because obviously Conor’s gotta sort the stuff out with the [British Boxing] Board [of Control] and then he weren’t involved in the fight if it went ahead in Saudi and lose all our licenses.

 

“So, they’re literally shooting themselves in the foot. And then the other threat is if we changed the date—so when you’re training and your back’s f----- you need to go and get a doctor’s report and evaluation. He’s injured still. Sauerlands would sue Liam and the promotion and Sky for loss of earnings. That’s a fact. The Sauerlands got a broadcasting deal with Sky so why would they sue Sky and Liam for loss of earnings? He’s injured. There are letters. It’s just a load of bullsh!t, mate. It’s disappointing, isn’t that we could’ve had a cracking Eubank-Smith 2, but we got a bit of farce, really, haven’t we?"

As has been said earlier in thread - it is a diagrace he fought off back of such a ridiculous cut - he and his camp are idiots.

 

Speaking of an idiots...state of this!

 

 

[Captain Turdseye]

On 03/09/2023 at 02:11, an tha said:

This shifting 3 stone thing appears to be so.

 

It is fucking mad - no fighter should be shifting that much - even after an injury, that is just not on - living wrong/not fighting at a proper weight class.

 

No wonder he was fucked. Should not have fought.

 

Watch...

 

Comes earlyish in this video about 2 mins through to 2 mins 30:

 

 

Oh dear, handbags there at the back of the room at 7:20 on that clip. Classic Kalle though when the camera pans back to him afterwards. 

[Captain Turdseye]

1 hour ago, an tha said:

As has been said earlier in thread - it is a diagrace he fought off back of such a ridiculous cut - he and his camp are idiots.

 

Speaking of an idiots...state of this!

 

 

 

That’ll look great on the Netflix show. 

[Kevin D]

https://www.badlefthook.com/2023/9/8/23864763/tyson-fury-has-no-interest-in-facing-other-top-heavyweights-boxing-news-2023
 

Tyson Fury takes some time to chat with Sky Sports and admits he’s really only fighting for money at this point, reiterating that he’s not interesting in fighting other top heavyweights who he believes bring nothing to the table. That, according to Fury, includes an undisputed unification with Oleksandr Usyk. 

Fury on his latest return to the ring, albeit not against another boxer

“When I come back into boxing I said I wanted to make the most money as possible, that’s what I said to my lawyer. I didn’t come back this time for belts or titles or anything, I come back to secure my family and their family and their kids and their grandkids. And I’ve done it. I’ve done it.
 

“The reason why I’m even boxing anymore, when I come back want to regain the belts, which I’ve done, and two, more than that, is to get the biggest bags possible.”

On if he’s fighting strictly for money while others are fighting for glory, legacy, etc.

“Yep. And I have no interest in fighting those guys, because I’m bigger than all of ‘em. I’m a superstar, they’re nobodies. I’m happy, they’re not. I have everything that they want and there’s nothing they can do about it — apart from get yourself in line, get yourself mandatory by ten organizations, fight eliminator after eliminator for no money, like I did. And take ten years getting there, and when you get there and you’ve been the lineal champion for the longest ever, then come back to me and preach.”

[TheSire]

I take everything fury says with a pinch of salt really. He'll be saying the opposite when it suits him. He absolutely hated it when that true geordie chap didn't kiss his arse in their interview earlier this year.

 

"So I’ve got 25 title defences to beat in the next 10 years. Even if I have to book three fights a year, I’ll beat it.

 

“It’s going to be a hard challenge but I’ve never set a challenge that I didn’t make. If anyone’s capable of doing it, I’m capable of doing it.

 

“What’s that word? Longevity! That’s what I’m looking for. I ain’t no flash in the pan and you’re going to see it here, exclusive!

 

“All comers! 26 title defences!”

[A Red]

The ramblings of a mentally ill man

[A Red]

Been watching a documentary on Larry Holmes, fuck me but he had a jab in his prime. I would have loved to seen him against George Foreman but it just didn't happen as George was just a few years ahead of him.

[KMD7]

10 hours ago, A Red said:

Been watching a documentary on Larry Holmes, fuck me but he had a jab in his prime. I would have loved to seen him against George Foreman but it just didn't happen as George was just a few years ahead of him.

One of the great what if's there mate. Strangely enough they're the same age but George was already Champion before Larry turned pro and was in retirement when Larry won the title. 

[A Red]

6 minutes ago, KMD7 said:

One of the great what if's there mate. Strangely enough they're the same age but George was already Champion before Larry turned pro and was in retirement when Larry won the title. 

I didn't realise that, I always assumed Foreman was some years ahead. As you say, one of the great what ifs.

[Remmie]

I reckon Foreman decapitates him and launches the head into the crowd! 

 

Underrated as a boxer Foreman, obviously with the sickening power

[A Red]

47 minutes ago, Remmie said:

I reckon Foreman decapitates him and launches the head into the crowd! 

 

Underrated as a boxer Foreman, obviously with the sickening power

Holmes could take a punch though. Earnie Shavers dropped him with a punch that took his head off, he just picked it up, screwed it back on, got up and won the fight.

[Kevin D]

 

 

 

 

[Dr Nowt]

53 minutes ago, Kevin D said:

 

 

 

 

It’s almost like he’s saying the things he is about never wanting to fight the other top heavyweights and scrapping Jon Jones etc in cages to get more UFC fans to buy the PPV against Ngannou. There definitely won’t be an abrupt about-turn on all that in the next breath.

[Captain Turdseye]

There’s likely a Netflix documentary crew with him. He’s a TV show now. 

[Kevin D]

 

[Bjornebye]

https://x.com/stuvon5000/status/1704220883315769762?s=20

 

 

Hahaha Froch 

[sir roger]

What's the general feeling about Joyce v Zhang rematch ?

 

I hope Joe wins, but I can't see him being able to suddenly discover head movement at 48.

[Jairzinho]

9 minutes ago, sir roger said:

What's the general feeling about Joyce v Zhang rematch ?

 

I hope Joe wins, but I can't see him being able to suddenly discover head movement at 48.

 

Zhang is 66 though. 

[Bjornebye]

15 minutes ago, sir roger said:

What's the general feeling about Joyce v Zhang rematch ?

 

I hope Joe wins, but I can't see him being able to suddenly discover head movement at 48.

 

I think he wins it to set up the decider. Money talks. 

[sir roger]

Hope so

[Captain Howdy]

How do people see a Usyk Fury fight going should it ever happen ? I think a focussed Fury would have too much given his size but he would have to be at the top of his game. Hope it happens

[Kevin D]

14 hours ago, sir roger said:

What's the general feeling about Joyce v Zhang rematch ?

 

I hope Joe wins, but I can't see him being able to suddenly discover head movement at 48.

I think Joyce will wear him down, this time. Joyce’s defence is terrible, but even he can’t get hit by the exact same punch as many times in a rematch. 
 

Should be a good action and I like the poster, too:

 

[sir roger]

 Big Joe is probably the only heavyweight I like ( Dont mind Usyk ) so hope he can do it.

[Elite]

1 hour ago, Kevin D said:

I think Joyce will wear him down, this time. Joyce’s defence is terrible, but even he can’t get hit by the exact same punch as many times in a rematch. 
 

Should be a good action and I like the poster, too:

 

Should they be fighting when it's clear that they've got the same eye infection? The sport once again not valuing fighters safety.