Rest of The World Bands - Round 1 - U2 vs Steppenwolf

[Remmie]

5 hours ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Up to around 92/93, U2 were brilliant. 

Nobody can name more than 2 Steppenwolf songs, so this is easy.

Yep, I can name loads of dogshit u2 stuff I hate whereas steppenwolf I wouldn't know. Easy steppenwolf vote

[Code]

U2 were great up to the Zooropa album, that was the last U2 album I bought, it started to go downhill from there though and they really did not need to be so adventurous.
 

 I first listened to the War album when I was on a holiday visiting my uncle and aunt, when they were at work I was sat at home listening to music.

 

My three favourite albums that vacation was U2- War, Tom Robinson Band - Power in the Darkness, and Supertramp - Breakfast in America.

 

It was a great holiday, I was just 11 at the time. 
 

Life really has become a bit more complicated since then. 
 

 

 

 

 

[VladimirIlyich]

U2 were excellent up to The Joshua Tree and then I just lost interest in their music.

[Total Longo]

17 hours ago, cloggypop said:

When U2 came into my music library and dumped a massive steaming turd there "for free" I stopped using iTunes completely. Cheeky fucking twats. 

It's mad the way people got so precious and uppity about that heinous "band give away free album" crime. The easy solution was to delete it, but no, everyone had to whine on social media about what a disgrace it was.     

[Bjornebye]

2 minutes ago, Total Longo said:

It's mad the way people got so precious and uppity about that heinous "band give away free album" crime. The easy solution was to delete it, but no, everyone had to whine on social media about what a disgrace it was.     

I know yeah "I stopped using ITunes completely" fuck me. 

[Mook]

I have to say of all the things about U2 that bug me, giving away a free digital album comes near the bottom of the list.

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, Mook said:

I have to say of all the things about U2 that bug me, giving away a free digital album comes near the bottom of the list.

Not even a fan of The Joshua Tree album mate? 

[johnsusername]

Absolutely love Achtung Baby. Don't really care for the rest of their stuff. But Achtung is enough to get my vote.

[Mook]

5 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Not even a fan of The Joshua Tree album mate? 

 

[Total Longo]

I really liked U2 up until Pop in 1997. Saw them a couple of times at Roundhay Park and also in Germany in the early 90's. Pop was the first real drop off quality wise and they've got steadily worse and more uninteresting and formulaic ever since, to the point where i gave up on them completely after the last Eno collaboration, No Line on the Horizon. I remember that getting a five star review in Q and being quite excited for it as they had said it was a return to the feel of the Achtung Baby period. One track aside, it was a truly awful album and given that was the 4th (?) on the bounce that was the final straw for me.  A shame really, as they lit up my teens.  But not many bands can keep up an unbroken level of brilliance throughout their career, particularly a 40 year one.  

[an tha]

13 minutes ago, Total Longo said:

I really liked U2 up until Pop in 1997. Saw them a couple of times at Roundhay Park and also in Germany in the early 90's. Pop was the first real drop off quality wise and they've got steadily worse and more uninteresting and formulaic ever since, to the point where i gave up on them completely after the last Eno collaboration, No Line on the Horizon. I remember that getting a five star review in Q and being quite excited for it as they had said it was a return to the feel of the Achtung Baby period. One track aside, it was a truly awful album and given that was the 4th (?) on the bounce that was the final straw for me.  A shame really, as they lit up my teens.  But not many bands can keep up an unbroken level of brilliance throughout their career, particularly a 40 year one.  

I'd argue Pop was the last time u2 were interesting, the last time they weren't formulaic.

 

Ever since Pop they have mostly stuck to a very dull middle of the road and safe sound - dull shite like Beautiful Day and Vertigo for example.

 

On Pop they embraced things like electronica, use of loops and samples....

 

Ever since they have just settled into really dull safe music that lacks the atmospheric qualities that their earlier work had.

 

For me Achtung Baby, Zooropa and Pop mark their most interesting and best period.

[Total Longo]

14 minutes ago, an tha said:

I'd argue Pop was the last time u2 were interesting, the last time they weren't formulaic.

 

Ever since Pop they have mostly stuck to a very dull middle of the road and safe sound - dull shite like Beautiful Day and Vertigo for example.

 

On Pop they embraced things like electronica, use of loops and samples....

 

Ever since they have just settled into really dull safe music that lacks the atmospheric qualities that their earlier work had.

 

For me Achtung Baby, Zooropa and Pop mark their most interesting and best period.

Yeah you're right, although i did say "ever since" Pop, i should have said that it just wasn't that great an album. Patchy at best, although Discoteque and Mofo are up there with my all time favourite tracks of theirs. 

 

Zooropa is probably my favourite of the three nowadays, considering they spent very little time on it (for them) it sounds pretty fresh 27 years later. 

[an tha]

10 minutes ago, Total Longo said:

Yeah you're right, although i did say "ever since" Pop, i should have said that it just wasn't that great an album. Patchy at best, although Discoteque and Mofo are up there with my all time favourite tracks of theirs. 

 

Zooropa is probably my favourite of the three nowadays, considering they spent very little time on it (for them) it sounds pretty fresh 27 years later. 

Mofo is boss.

 

Zooropa has some brilliant songs - Lemon and Dirty Day especially.

[Total Longo]

3 minutes ago, an tha said:

Mofo is boss.

 

Zooropa has some brilliant songs - Lemon and Dirty Day especially.

There is a live version of The Wanderer (potentially a tribute to Johnny Cash?) on youtube which imo surpasses the version on the album. Edge's backing vocals are astoundingly good.

[an tha]

27 minutes ago, Total Longo said:

There is a live version of The Wanderer (potentially a tribute to Johnny Cash?) on youtube which imo surpasses the version on the album. Edge's backing vocals are astoundingly good.

Might have a look at that, ta 

[Bruce Spanner]

No idea what happens after 15 seconds, I fell asleep through boredom...

 

 

[Juniper]

15 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

No idea what happens after 15 seconds, I fell asleep through boredom...

 

 

Just as bland a video as U2 themselves

[cloggypop]

4 hours ago, Total Longo said:

It's mad the way people got so precious and uppity about that heinous "band give away free album" crime. The easy solution was to delete it, but no, everyone had to whine on social media about what a disgrace it was.     

You couldn't just delete it though. That was the problem. Give it away for free, sound, forcing it on people and making them jump through hoops to get rid of it, not so sound. 

 

https://www.vulture.com/2020/10/u2-songs-of-innocence-apple-remove.html

[Total Longo]

1 minute ago, cloggypop said:

You couldn't just delete it though. That was the problem. Give it away for free, sound, forcing it on people and making them jump through hoops to get rid of it, not so sound. 

Yeah, you could.

 

I did it quite simply, as it wasn't very good.

 

Surely you wouldn't know anyway, as you said you got rid of iTunes straight afterwards, therefore eradicating the problem anyway.

 

Is this "jumping through hoops" though? Hardly. 

1. Go to http://itunes.com/soi-remove.
2. Click Remove Album to confirm you’d like to remove the album from your account.
3. Sign in with the Apple ID and password you use to buy from the iTunes Store.
4. You’ll see a confirmation message that the album has been removed from your account.

 

[cloggypop]

4 minutes ago, Total Longo said:

Yeah, you could.

 

I did it quite simply, as it wasn't very good.

 

Surely you wouldn't know anyway, as you said you got rid of iTunes straight afterwards, therefore eradicating the problem anyway.

 

Is this "jumping through hoops" though? Hardly. 

1. Go to http://itunes.com/soi-remove.
2. Click Remove Album to confirm you’d like to remove the album from your account.
3. Sign in with the Apple ID and password you use to buy from the iTunes Store.
4. You’ll see a confirmation message that the album has been removed from your account.

 

You had to get a tool from Apple to remove it. That now doesn't work and you have to go through Apple Support apparently. Ridiculous way of doing things. 

 

ITunes is for wankers anyway. Worst software I have ever used. 

[Total Longo]

1 minute ago, cloggypop said:

You had to get a tool from Apple to remove it. That now doesn't work and you have to go through Apple Support apparently. Ridiculous way of doing things. 

 

ITunes is for wankers anyway. Worst software I have ever used. 

That instruction i put up was from a week after the album was launched, so you really didn't. 

 

https://time.com/3380005/delete-u2-songs-of-innocence-from-apple-itunes/

[cloggypop]

3 minutes ago, Total Longo said:

That instruction i put up was from a week after the album was launched, so you really didn't. 

 

https://time.com/3380005/delete-u2-songs-of-innocence-from-apple-itunes/

Try clicking the link in your instructions now. 

 

https://www.vulture.com/2020/10/u2-songs-of-innocence-apple-remove.html

[Total Longo]

3 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

Try clicking the link in your instructions now. 

 

https://www.vulture.com/2020/10/u2-songs-of-innocence-apple-remove.html

I'm not talking about now! You said you had to get a tool from Apple to remove it, you really didn't. 

 

If you are stupid enough to want to remove an album now, that you didn't like in the first place seven years after it was given to you, then you deserve it to be there for all eternity. Idiots will be idiots. 

[cloggypop]

8 minutes ago, Total Longo said:

I'm not talking about now! You said you had to get a tool from Apple to remove it, you really didn't. 

 

If you are stupid enough to want to remove an album now, that you didn't like in the first place seven years after it was given to you, then you deserve it to be there for all eternity. Idiots will be idiots. 

You did have to use a tool from Apple to remove it. That's how I removed it. It now doesn't work. No idea if they are still inflicting it on new people. 

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-29208540#:~:text=Apple has released a tool,their devices without their permission.

[Total Longo]

16 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

You did have to use a tool from Apple to remove it. That's how I removed it. It now doesn't work. No idea if they are still inflicting it on new people. 

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-29208540#:~:text=Apple has released a tool,their devices without their permission.

Christ, have you actually read that article you linked? You simply had to click a button with "remove" written clearly on it. Must have been such hard work for some people to do that. If anything it's easier than the method i linked (which, let's be honest here, wasn't a stretch was it?) . Both, however, are categorically not "jumping through hoops" - clearly the only people saying it was a pain to do are people who were looking for a reason to bitch over the minutest thing i.e.  absolute fannies. 

 

The album came out on 9 Sept 2014. The article i linked and the one you linked both came out on 15 Sept 2014. Less than a week later. I recall removing it very easily indeed. Given that you yourself said you jibbed off itunes straight after the album entered your library, i'm not sure how would know otherwise anyway.  And of course they aren't "inflicting" it on anyone now. Again, read the article you linked and the answer is within. It ceased being free on October 13 2014. 

 

Either way, i'm sick of arguing with you over this. It's utterly pointless.