Lucas?

[Code]

If we really wanted Erikssen we would have got him.

 

We obviously thought Aspas and Alberto was worth more money.

 

Fuckin heeell.

[Boss]

Never rated Lucas that highly if i'm honest, he was always a square peg in a round hole. We've been crying out for a physical defensive midfielder since we got rid of Mascherano.  We bought Adam, Allen, Alberto, Henderson, Poulson, Meireles and Sahin (loan) in that time, not one destroyer amongst them, we need our next Momo / Mascherano.

[Gym Beglin]

I think Lucas is pretty good. Not brilliant, but pretty good, like his energy and bravery.

[TheHowieLama]

Hardly a proper Brazilian, likeable nonetheless.

[Gym Beglin]

I do wonder if Rafa would offer us £12m or something if we put him on the market.

 

Wouldn't be surprised to see Rafa look at Borini as well.

[lebron]

Why would we sell (him) our best and most important midfielder?

[Gym Beglin]

Pff, he's not our best and most important midfielder, that's Steven Gerrard, he's world class and the best midfielder in the Premier League.

 

Fucking tit, what colour's your wheelie bin, etc etc.

[mattyq]

If we really wanted Erikssen we would have got him.

 

We obviously thought Aspas and Alberto was worth more money.

 

Fuckin heeell.

 

The decision not to go for Erikssen is looking stranger by the day

[moof]

The decision not to go for Erikssen is looking stranger by the day

I think by then Brendan had decided to go for a wide player and play Coutinho in the centre

[mattyq]

We didn't get a wide player, though, apart from loanee Moses who the jury is still very much out on

[Gnasher]

Rodgers went for mikytaen or whatever his name was, bid a shit load of money, didnt get him then got in three center halfs, didnt bid for Ericsson or another midfeilder, strange.

 

Barry and Ericson or players of that quality would have improved the squad, no question at all, is there?

[James Dean]

No connection?

[Walton Park]

Lucas isnt dynamic enough for me.

He is good at breaking things up in front of the back 4 but thats about it in my opinion.

I think the game has changed a lot in the past 2 years and I dont think he is athletic enough. 

I always think were being short changed watching him.

WIth Gerrard now falling deeper into midfield the team is struggling to push up the pitch with both of our centre mids lying too deep.

We need some energy in midfield.

[Aldonose]

It's true. Whether it's the injury or not I'm not sure, but it doesn't change the fact that he isn't mobile/dynamic enough to be playing in that formation. It's a shame because his mental strength and character make him a valuable squad player, just not good enough to be in the first 11.

[dennis tooth]

But he is good enough by virtue of the fact that the other options are total overrated shitbags who are about as intimidating and imposing as boiled rice.

[xerxes]

Lucas is a very good player and can play at the highest level. But he is a component part, he does not make the team . He will shine with the best, but rarely will he he be the deciscive figure in a game.

 

Crticism of him is broadly a reflection of the team.

[Gym Beglin]

The problem is Gerrard and also the wide players who aren't enough of a goal threat.

 

So, more specifically, the problem is Gerrard, Sterling, Aspas.

 

And Gerrard as well, don't forget.

 

 

Huddlestone can pass the ball 40 yards as well, but Spurs weren't arsed about keeping him.  If we want quick pass and move football then we also need to address this issue in the middle of the park.  Or not.  Just bum around in 8th and wear your Gerrard shirt for a couple more years.

 

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[James Dean]

Watching Dembélé today reminds me how far off we are in CM. He's got everything we lack. Pace, power and mobility in abundance. Brilliant, brilliant player. Lucas not so much.

 

That said, we'd see a much improved Lucas if he had a partner like Dembélé.

[Gym Beglin]

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That said, we'd see a much improved Lucas if he had a partner like Dembélé.

 Which is a backhanded say of saying what...

 

I agree by the way, but someone needs to say his name.

 

Dembele is class, but he won't be in the Spurs central midfield at age 33.

[Guest LFD]

The problem is Gerrard and also the wide players who aren't enough of a goal threat.

 

So, more specifically, the problem is Gerrard, Sterling, Aspas.

 

And Gerrard as well, don't forget.

 

 

Huddlestone can pass the ball 40 yards as well, but Spurs weren't arsed about keeping him.  If we want quick pass and move football then we also need to address this issue in the middle of the park.  Or not.  Just bum around in 8th and wear your Gerrard shirt for a couple more years.

 

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Gerrard probably shouldn't be playing in the box to box role alongside Lucas, but he is not a complete liability like you are trying to make out - far from it.

 

I think it would work better with Henderson (or Allen if Henderson was not available or was needed in another role) alongside Lucas and Gerrard being used higher up the field.

 

Gerrrad is not enough of a goal threat?  He's playing as a deeper midfielder, what are you expecting?  Didn't he get 8 league goals and 8 league assists last season from that position, don't think any other centre midfielders who played a similar role to Gerrard did that.

 

Talk about not fully appreciating someone!

[KopOut]

Contrary to a lot of fans, I think Lucas can be efficient and boss defensive midfield without having Gerrard babysit him all the time. and I think that Gerrard is more than happy to let Lucas get on with it, playing further forward. trouble is he's not allowed to change his babysitting role. He follows orders, hence, we have a disconnect between defense and attacking options in the opposing half, particularly with Coutinho out. 

- - - - - - - goalkeeper- - - - - - - - 

 

- - - - - - - -Back four - - - - - -  - -

 

- - - - - - - - - Lucas - - - - - - -  -

 

- - - - - Hendo - - - -  Stevie - - - -

 

  - - - - - Three Strikers - - - - -  -

 

Couldn't be any worse than the crap we play now.

 

[stringvest]

 Which is a backhanded say of saying what...

 

I agree by the way, but someone needs to say his name.

 

Dembele is class, but he won't be in the Spurs central midfield at age 33.

 

that's right, because Dembele won't have to be looking after a fatally limited partner.  He'll be given a role which better suits his abilities, without having to childmind.  I don't believe Rodgers, Gerrard or Lucas believe Lucas can play the role he's in without support.  If that's the case, we either find a more dynamic DM with an ability to read the game better, we persist with the unsatisfactory status quo (not the first time they've been called that I bet) or we try Henderson in there, and let him learn on the job for the first 12 months.

[Jairzinho]

Or we swap Gerrard and Henderson's positions.

[stringvest]

Or we swap Gerrard and Henderson's positions.

 

I think that would improve us.  

[Code]

I guess we'll see a Henderson/Gerrard partnership in the middle at the weekend now, I for one look forward to it.