England vs India

[Ian Sea]

I think England are the best team in the world. There's not a weak link anywhere.

 

India looked awful frankly, that bowling attack is shocking. We'll piss this series now I reckon.

[RJ Fan club]

I think England are the best team in the world. There's not a weak link anywhere.

 

India looked awful frankly, that bowling attack is shocking. We'll piss this series now I reckon.

 

I'm not sure about piss it, but I feel more confident. Sehwag is due back to add to an already great batting line-up, but I do feel India's bowling will be the weak link that allows England to win there series. Especially if Khan is out for a few tests.

 

I think England are there or thereabouts the best team. Maybe a series win in India and/or SA would really cement it.

[Ian Sea]

 

I'm not sure about piss it, but I feel more confident. Sehwag is due back too add to an already great batting line-up, but I do feel India's bowling will be the weak link that allows England to win there series. Especially if Khan is out for a few tests.

 

I think England are there or thereabouts the best team. Win this series then maybe a series win in India and/or SA would really cement it.

 

No doubt India have a great batting line up but equally, Dravid, Tendulkar and VVS are all past their peaks. I think our bowling line up can get the better of them at this stage of their careers.

 

Agree on the point about us winning away from home, it's one thing winning in England in favourable conditions but to be the true number 1 side we need to win in places like India, South Africa and Sri Lanka as well.

 

We have just won in Australia though so we can do it!

[RJ Fan club]

 

No doubt India have a great batting line up but equally, Dravid, Tendulkar and VVS are all past their peaks. I think our bowling line up can get the better of them at this stage of their careers.

 

Agree on the point about us winning away from home, it's one thing winning in England in favourable conditions but to be the true number 1 side we need to win in places like India, South Africa and Sri Lanka as well.

 

We have just won in Australia though so we can do it!

 

I agree with that, although we may vary slightly on the weakness or relative diminished power of their batting line up. Overall I think you're being fair in that I would also expect our bowlers to just get the better at this stage.

 

I feel we can win on the subcontinent but I think we would have to be on total top form. SA would be a good test with a bit more leeway for us I think.

[Ian Sea]

 

I agree with that, although we may vary slightly on the weakness or relative diminished power of their batting line up. Overall I think you're being fair in that I would also expect our bowlers to just get the better at this stage.

 

I feel we can win on the subcontinent but I think we would have to be on total top form. SA would be a good test with a bit more leeway for us I think.

 

I'm interested to see how SA do under Gary Kirsten and Allan Donald. I expect them to improve, and they're already a quality side, so I agree that they'd be a good test. Don't think we're playing them for a while though?

[RJ Fan club]

 

I'm interested to see how SA do under Gary Kirsten and Allan Donald. I expect them to improve, and they're already a quality side, so I agree that they'd be a good test. Don't think we're playing them for a while though?

 

2012 January-February - England in Pakistan (3 Tests, 4 ODIs, 3 T20s) March - England in Sri Lanka (2 Tests) May - West Indies in England (3 Tests, 3 ODIs, 1 T20) June-July - Australia in England (5 ODIs) July-September - South Africa in England (3 Tests, 5 ODIs, 3 T20s) September-October - ICC World Twenty20 in Sri Lanka November-December - England in India (4 Tests)

 

2013 January - England in India (1 T20, 7 ODIs) February-March - England in New Zealand (3 Tests, 5 ODIs, 1 T20) May-June - New Zealand in England (2 Tests) May-June - ICC Test World Championship in England June-September - Australia in England (5 Tests, 5 ODIs, 2 T20s) September - New Zealand in England (5 ODIs) November-January 2014 - England in Australia (5 Tests, 5 ODIs, 3 T20s)

 

2014 November 2013-January - England in Australia (5 Tests, 5 ODIs, 3 T20s) February-March - England in West Indies (5 ODIs, 1 T20) April - ICC World Twenty20 in Bangladesh May-June - Sri Lanka in England (2 Tests, 5 ODIs, 1 T20) June-September - India in England (5 Tests, 5 ODIs, 1 T20) November-December - England in Sri Lanka (5 ODIs, 2 T20s)

 

2015 January-February - England in Australia (Triangular 5 ODIs) February-March - ICC Cricket World Cup in Australia and New Zealand April - England in West Indies (3 Tests) May-June - New Zealand in England (2 Tests, 5 ODIs, 1 T20) June-September - Australia in England (5 Tests, 5 ODIs, 1 T20) October-November - England in Pakistan (3 Tests, 5 ODIs, 1 T20) December-February 2016 - England in South Africa (4 Tests, 5 ODIs, 1 or 2 T20s tbc

 

2016 December 2015-February - England in South Africa (4 Tests, 5 ODIs, 1 or 2 T20s tbc March-April - ICC World Twenty20 in India May-June - Sri Lanka in England (3 Tests, 5 ODIs, 1 T20) July-September - Pakistan in England (4 Tests, 5 ODIs, 1 T20) October-November - England in Bangladesh (2 Tests, 3 ODIs) November-December - England in India (4 Tests)

 

2017 January-February - England in India (7 ODIs, 1 T20) April-May - West Indies in England (3 Tests) June - ICC Test World Championship in England June-July - West Indies in England (5 ODIs, 1 T20) July-September - South Africa in England (4 Tests, 5 ODIs, 1 T20) November-January 2018 - England in Australia (5 Tests, 5 ODIs, 3 T20s)

 

2018 November 2017-January - England in Australia (5 Tests, 5 ODIs, 3 T20s) February-April - England in New Zealand (2 Tests, 5 ODIs, 1 T20) May-June - Pakistan in England (2 Tests, 5 ODIs, 1 T20) June-September - India in England (5 Tests, 5 ODIs, 1 T20) October-November - England in Sri Lanka (3 Tests, 5 ODIs, 1 T20)

 

2019 February-March - England in West Indies (3 Tests, 5 ODIs, 1 T20) May-June - Australia in England (5 ODIs, 1 T20) June-July - ICC Cricket World Cup in England July-September - Australia in England (5 Tests) December-February 2020 - England in South Africa (4 Tests, 5 ODIs, 1 T20)

[RJ Fan club]

Home next summer.

 

2015 away, by the looks of that.

[RobbieOR]

Is the next Ashes tour down under not for another 6 years?

[RJ Fan club]

Is the next Ashes tour down under not for another 6 years?

 

2013/14, Rob.

[RobbieOR]

2013/14, Rob.

 

I read that list wrong. Cheers Ste.

 

Presumably they've moved it forward a year then? After the ECB not wanting to have it in the same year as the World Cup.

[RJ Fan club]

 

I read that list wrong. Cheers Ste.

 

Presumably they've moved it forward a year then? After the ECB not wanting to have it in the same year as the World Cup.

 

I think the next ashes was moved (home next summer, where as normally its 2 1/2 years between aussie summer and England summer) then its just reverted back to the normal gap.

 

So yeah its been moved to accommodate the ICC ODI WC

[Ian Sea]

 

2012 January-February - England in Pakistan (3 Tests, 4 ODIs, 3 T20s) March - England in Sri Lanka (2 Tests) May - West Indies in England (3 Tests, 3 ODIs, 1 T20) June-July - Australia in England (5 ODIs) July-September - South Africa in England (3 Tests, 5 ODIs, 3 T20s) September-October - ICC World Twenty20 in Sri Lanka November-December - England in India (4 Tests)

 

2013 January - England in India (1 T20, 7 ODIs) February-March - England in New Zealand (3 Tests, 5 ODIs, 1 T20) May-June - New Zealand in England (2 Tests) May-June - ICC Test World Championship in England June-September - Australia in England (5 Tests, 5 ODIs, 2 T20s) September - New Zealand in England (5 ODIs) November-January 2014 - England in Australia (5 Tests, 5 ODIs, 3 T20s)

 

2014 November 2013-January - England in Australia (5 Tests, 5 ODIs, 3 T20s) February-March - England in West Indies (5 ODIs, 1 T20) April - ICC World Twenty20 in Bangladesh May-June - Sri Lanka in England (2 Tests, 5 ODIs, 1 T20) June-September - India in England (5 Tests, 5 ODIs, 1 T20) November-December - England in Sri Lanka (5 ODIs, 2 T20s)

 

2015 January-February - England in Australia (Triangular 5 ODIs) February-March - ICC Cricket World Cup in Australia and New Zealand April - England in West Indies (3 Tests) May-June - New Zealand in England (2 Tests, 5 ODIs, 1 T20) June-September - Australia in England (5 Tests, 5 ODIs, 1 T20) October-November - England in Pakistan (3 Tests, 5 ODIs, 1 T20) December-February 2016 - England in South Africa (4 Tests, 5 ODIs, 1 or 2 T20s tbc

 

2016 December 2015-February - England in South Africa (4 Tests, 5 ODIs, 1 or 2 T20s tbc March-April - ICC World Twenty20 in India May-June - Sri Lanka in England (3 Tests, 5 ODIs, 1 T20) July-September - Pakistan in England (4 Tests, 5 ODIs, 1 T20) October-November - England in Bangladesh (2 Tests, 3 ODIs) November-December - England in India (4 Tests)

 

2017 January-February - England in India (7 ODIs, 1 T20) April-May - West Indies in England (3 Tests) June - ICC Test World Championship in England June-July - West Indies in England (5 ODIs, 1 T20) July-September - South Africa in England (4 Tests, 5 ODIs, 1 T20) November-January 2018 - England in Australia (5 Tests, 5 ODIs, 3 T20s)

 

2018 November 2017-January - England in Australia (5 Tests, 5 ODIs, 3 T20s) February-April - England in New Zealand (2 Tests, 5 ODIs, 1 T20) May-June - Pakistan in England (2 Tests, 5 ODIs, 1 T20) June-September - India in England (5 Tests, 5 ODIs, 1 T20) October-November - England in Sri Lanka (3 Tests, 5 ODIs, 1 T20)

 

2019 February-March - England in West Indies (3 Tests, 5 ODIs, 1 T20) May-June - Australia in England (5 ODIs, 1 T20) June-July - ICC Cricket World Cup in England July-September - Australia in England (5 Tests) December-February 2020 - England in South Africa (4 Tests, 5 ODIs, 1 T20)

 

Nice one, will rep that when I'm not on Forum Runner! Will look forward to those SA Tests then, will deffo get to at least one of them as well.

 

2013 will be amazing, away in NZ, World Test Championship and 2 Ashes series?! Fuck me!

[George Costanza]

Terrific test match. Good performances on both sides and for once the lords wicket finally gave us a result. Restricting India under 300 for both innings on a batting friendly wicket was a impressive bowling performance. I thought the pressure built on tendulkar in the 2nd innings was brilliant. It was mcgrath like from all 3 seamers. The virtues of a good line & length.

 

Bodes well for a great series ahead. Two top quality test teams. india's bowling line up does look weak though imo.

[RobbieOR]

I think the next ashes was moved (home next summer, where as normally its 2 1/2 years between aussie summer and England summer) then its just reverted back to the normal gap.

 

I dont think so mate. The next Ashes in England was always scheduled for 2013. As there is always a 4 year gap between when it is held in England. 2001/2005/2009 etc.

 

2 ashes series in 2013 by the looks of it.

[George Costanza]

Looking at that schedule i do think too much test cricket is being played. 12+ tests a year is alot. The Ashes apart i don't see the need for anymore than 3 test series. It should be 3 games apiece of each discipline 20:20, 50 over & tests (5 tests for Aus) % ODI's is too much ans i don't see the point in just having the odd one 20:20 game for a touring party.

[RJ Fan club]

 

I dont think so mate. The next Ashes in England was always scheduled for 2013. As there is always a 4 year gap between when it is held in England. 2001/2005/2009 etc.

 

2 ashes series in 2013 by the looks of it.

 

Yeah looks that way. I must have got confused. Strange seeing two ashes series in a year. BTW that info was from the ECB website.

[Ian Sea]

The next Ashes series down under has been brought forward so it doesn't fall in the same winter as the World Cup from now on.

[Indian Red]

Sachin, Dravid and Laxman are certainly not well past their peaks. If Zaheer stays fit, I`d still back us to for an odd win or two.

[Ian Sea]

Sachin, Dravid and Laxman are certainly not well past their peaks. If Zaheer stays fit, I`d still back us to for an odd win or two.

 

Yes they are. To suggest otherwise is pure bias.

 

Don't get me wrong, they're still fantastic players but certainly not as good as they were. No disgrace in that, they are approaching 40 after all.

 

And Zaheer staying fit is a big ask, he's blatantly unfit in the worst way. He needs to lose about 3 stone to even be considered anywhere near fit.

[Indian Red]

I am pretty sure someone did this and found that Sachin had scored more runs last year (or the year before cant recall which) than he ever had with better averages. Cant find it though.

 

Our highest run getter in the world cup and second only to Dilshan. Dont think he is declining; especially since he picks and chooses his tournaments to rest himself adequately.

 

Anyways its a matter of opinions and we are all biased based on what we love/support. To that end, I reckon this will be a boss series with two very good cricketing teams. We`ll still do you in the ODI's mind ;)

[Indian Red]

As far as Zaheer`s fitness/fatness goes, if he is good to bowl, thats all I want. His weight doesnt bother me. Great bowler and will always be a handful in imperial conditions, fat or not.

[Ian Sea]

As far as Zaheer`s fitness/fatness goes, if he is good to bowl, thats all I want. His weight doesnt bother me. Great bowler and will always be a handful in imperial conditions, fat or not.

 

My point is that his weight may make him not good to bowl. He should have turned up in better condition in my opinion. Agree that he's a great bowler though, especially in the Evil Empire's home conditions!

[Spy Bee]

India win toss and choose to bowl. Bresnan in for Tremlett.

[ChrisM]

Looking forward to Sreesanth acting the massive tool!

[ChrisM]

Not sure I agree with Strauss that this was a good toss to lose - overcast, grass on the wicket, Trent Bridge (always swings), Anderson in your side. Hmmmmmmm.