Top Ten Overrated players

[Byrnie]

Joe Cole is surely in the top ten?

[Trumo]

Bacary Sagna - I might be in the minority here, but I actually think he's pretty ineffectual. When he crosses the ball, more often than not, he won't clear the first defender. If he does manage to clear the first defender, the ball in will bypass everybody and go out for a throw-in on the opposite flank. He also has a tendency to require treatment at least once in every match of Arsenal's I happen to see. Usually it's because he's hurt himself going for an aerial ball that he had no hope of getting, or one that is in a non-dangerous area of the field, such as out by his own corner flag. If he hasn't hurt himself, he's almost certainly clattered a teammate instead. That is why I took the piss a bit in the Arsenal thread.

[Kozel9]

Rooney, Berbatov, Wilshere, Balotelli, Anelka.

 

I seriously don't agree on Given. He is a great keeper to me, and i always liked him.

[Trucker Paddy]

Rooney, Berbatov, Wilshere, Balotelli, Anelka.

 

I seriously don't agree on Given. He is a great keeper to me, and i always liked him.

 

Excellent shot stopper, that's it

[Trumo]

I seriously don't agree on Given. He is a great keeper to me, and i always liked him.

 

I think Given really is overrated, and not because "no big club has come in for him", as stated in the OP article. It's not that he simply stays on his line either. Watch a highlights reel and you might see him save 15 shots and think, "Blimey! He's class that lad," but they don't show Given's chronic lack of communication with his defence or lack of command of his area, which both cause his defence to be carved open time and time again until he's the last line. Fair enough he hasn't always had a quality back line in front of him, but the above has been the case regardless of defensive personnel.

 

Incidentally, I actually think Iker Casillas is from the same mould, despite being captain of club and country. He has Given's shot-stopping ability ramped up to 11, but doesn't command his area as well as his rivals for the Spanish goalkeeper's shirt. Just to be clear, I wouldn't put Casillas in my top 10 overrated players, before anyone suggests otherwise!

[Guest TK-421]

Here is my list. It's like a who's who of Evening Standard double page spreads:

 

1. Gareth Bale - yes, yes, he has a great left foot, almost embarrassed Rafa's Inter and...that's about it. 80m quid? Good Lord.

 

2. Jack Wilshere - hyped beyond belief on the back of a decent half-season. Like the rest of his team mates he hasn't won or achieved anything of note, so there's nothing to base it on. At least he has time on his side.

 

3. Andriy Arshavin - 16m bench warmer. Promised so much and delivered - at first. Then it stopped, dead in its tracks. 29 already.

 

4. Theo Walcott - okay, there's an Arsenal theme developing here but they are the big time bottle jobs and their players are hyped the most. Look up the phrase "flatter to deceive" on the googlictionary and you will see the words "Theo Walcott".

 

5. Shaun Wright-Phillips - I don't know what happened with him. He was exhilarating in his first spell with Man City, had the vision as well as the touch and pace. The Chelsea move drained it all out of him and he's never recovered.

 

6. David Bentley - overrated by me, I am guilty on this one. I thought we should have been in for him when he made his Spurs move. I'm glad we steered clear.

 

7. Robbie Keane - outstanding International record hides deficiencies at club level. One club honour - Carling Cup. Rafa's worst signing, in my opinion.

 

8. Scott Parker - a clear cut case of a big fish in a small pond. I can't think of anything he has achieved in his career. Frozen out at Chelsea during the early Abramovich years, but unlike Glen Johnson hasn't gone on to perform for other clubs expected to challenge for honours.

 

9. Joe Cole - massive Bosman wages, no return.

 

10. Cesc Fabregas - not because he's a bad player, far from it. Because, like Wilshere, he's hyped beyond belief and hasn't actually won much (anything?) for his club. Players like him are factory produced in Spain. He's brilliant, but he's not this once in a generation player the London press would have you believe. Barca would be mad to pay 35m for him, in my opinion.

[s(k)aturation]

Completely agree on Berbatov and Vidic.

 

Berbatov is the epitome of talented laziness.

 

And as for Vidic, well to be honest I've seen Torres, when he was with us, expose him often enough to convince me he's nowhere near as top drawer as pundits drool on about.

 

If they qualify for the ECL Final, count on these two to fail against the quality of either Real or Barca.

[MLB]

Everyone. They're all overrated. Load of old shit.

[Red House]

I would be made if the mancs end up signing De Gea to replace Van Der Sar and Rodwell for Hargreaves/ Scholes!

[lfc]

Deco for me has been one of the most overrated players of the last ten years.

[buffaloboy]

John Obi Mikel. He only seemed to be rated in numerous magazines reeling off lists of the best up and coming young players of their generation, and that it seems was that. Quite how Chelsea were so keen to have him that they paid the Mancs something like £16m (!) after the Mancs themselves paid £4m I really don't know. He doesn't seem to be able to do anything more than pass the ball 5 yards sideways or backwards, usually to Lampard or Terry, or foul his opponent. The very same accusations were levelled at Lucas until very recently, but there is a massive gulf, nay, a chasm, in class between the two.

 

Totally agree! He was meant to be the best midfield player we have ever seen. Really he is pretty ordinary.

[buffaloboy]

Also I am sorry to say but Gerrard isn't the player he was. Since that court case he hasn't been top level as he was IMO. Also Anderson from Man U isn't all that for me.

[Tia]

Micheal Carrick - has no heart can not control a game aswell as not tackle

Gareth Bale - A good footballer but come on the media paint him in the shade of Messi etc

Ashley Young - His great one game the next game you wonder is he even on the pitch

Gareth Barry - Serious!! where do i begin?

James Milner - He is a good player but i don't think hell ever make it as a regular at a BIG CLUB

Matt Jarvis - Not a great crosser not fast at taking a man on and does not have the pace needed on the wing

Danny Wellbeck - the talk of him being an England international is laughable

Fabregas - Slow undetermined and is really really overarated but is a good player

Joe Cole - was not left go by anchilloti for nothing

Theo Wallcott - hahahahah just hahahahahah

 

 

The English media overhyping shit bummy players

[Redshadow]

Silverlining? "Parker's a better player than Lucas."

 

Erm, no sorry I take Big issue with that remark. Parker's a 30 something reserve/backup option to the full England midfield who despite his supposed brilliance all season? Is part of a team whose 'Goals against' record is utterly shocking and thus who are about to be deservedly relegated this season. He's been like that all his career actually; Ever since being young player of the year at Charlton and starring in that bloody advert all those years ago before it.

 

Yes, He'll do well, tackle a lot, score the odd spectacular goal or two for a while and then? He'll Completely disappear from view by getting a long-term injury or putting in a whole series of anonymous/shadow performances that by anyone else are deemed as 'utterly awful' but by one of "England's Midfield Generals?" Is seen by the media as "His Teammates/their lack of qualities" fault or "Just an off-day" for him and "Nothing to worry about" so desperate are they to cover up his inadequacies and defend his good name - Rather like 'Woy' syndrome on the pitch if you know what I mean? No Parker's found his level and it's not remotely close to Lucas who can only improve - For Parker? Their's only one way in his football career now and it's not up...........

 

As I see it? Parker's nothing special. To compare him to - Never mind say he's better than Lucas? Is utterly ridiculous - Lucas since he matured towards the back-end of last season? Has done it again and again in this league - He's improved his most damaging stat'; His passing under pressure - that last season? Was our great weakness with him in the team - out of all recognition and now simply commands our midfield like the combination of a half-Alonso, half-Mascherano (Or Half Makelele, half Carrick to be more precise) that Rafa' always knew he would be and more mobile than either. Lucas commands our passing rhythm with his short-passing now (it's not a coincidence either that as more & more pass-friendly players have been deployed in our side? He's improved still further either); Lucas also now? tackles like a machine and gets forward to cause havoc a fair bit now as well.

 

Lucas now compared to a few years ago? Well just look at him. He's dominated, overpowered and dismantled midfields all over the country from Chelsea (Twice), Man United, Arsenal at the top of the list down to the likes of the Hammers themselves, Aston Villa and he completely destroyed Birmingham in the middle on Saturday by taking apart their 3 man midfield on his own with probably his best ever performance for us.

 

No, ignore the tabloid press who'll never admit they were always completely wrong about him but? Lucas is now several galaxies better than Parker any day of the week and a regular in the Brazilian national side now, Parker? Can't normally get into the England side - That says it all really. That and the fact that if Lucas played for the Hammers in place of Parker? They'd probably be pushing for Europe rather than staring the trapdoor square in the face by now...........

 

No If you want overrated players? Try Half of Arsenal's forward line - Namely Nicklas Bendtner and Maurouane Chamakh - Now there is a pair that are hyped far, far beyond what they can actually do and are two of the main reasons that team of bottling-specialists aren't going to win the title yet again.

 

I'd probably put Lee Cattermole for Sunderland, A certain Mr F. Torres (in his current state anyway), Chris Brunt and Scott Carson at WBA and Ben Foster at Brum' are in that category as well whilst Joleon Lescott? Fits like a glove. There's a few to be going on with. All IMO? Players that were hyped up far beyond what they should have been with no good reason whatsoever.

[Kozel9]

Well i didn't mean i think he is one of the best goalkeepers, but he surely could get on many PL teams as it is. If people think of him as a top 5-10 GK then yes, he is overrated, but i would rather want Given, than many other keepers. He is more reliable, and his excellent shot stopping. He is also experienced as well.

 

But yeah, as you guys said he has his faults, but in my opinion he deserves more than a being a benchwarmer at city.

[silverlining]

 

out of all recognition and now simply commands our midfield like the combination of a half-Alonso, half-Mascherano (Or Half Makelele, half Carrick to be more precise) that Rafa' always knew he would be and more mobile than either. Lucas commands our passing rhythm with his short-passing now (it's not a coincidence either that as more & more pass-friendly players have been deployed in our side? He's improved still further either); Lucas also now? tackles like a machine and gets forward to cause havoc a fair bit now as well.

 

That and the fact that if Lucas played for the Hammers in place of Parker? They'd probably be pushing for Europe rather than staring the trapdoor square in the face by now...........

 

 

First off. Really, really shit use of bold.

 

And claiming that if West Ham had had Lucas instead of Player's Player Of The Year Parker, they'd have been pushing for Europe, simply confirms your status as a giant fucking spastic.

[dirty_sanchez]

Micah Richards is pretty overrated. He's a good athlete, but he's not a particularly good footballer. His positional sense is appalling.

[Carvalho Diablo]

First off. Really, really shit use of bold.

 

And claiming that if West Ham had had Lucas instead of Player's Player Of The Year Parker, they'd have been pushing for Europe, simply confirms your status as a giant fucking spastic.

 

Redshadow - now there's a free lesson in effective emboldenning.

 

You're welcome.

[Dracco]

That OP list is full of bullshit.

 

Gareth Barry, John Terry, Balotelli and I would say also Daniel Agger should be there.

[Trumo]

Bold is the new CAPS LOCK.

[etho]

1. Jermaine Jenas. How was he in the Englnd squad for so long? How was he linked with Mourinho's Inter for 10 million last season? What does he do exactly?

 

2. Ashley Young - Good player, but never worth 20 million. A (far more) accomplished Babel for me, not a left winger, not a right winger, not ever going to be a world class no. 10, but functional at all 3, and pops up with the odd free kick. Don't want to see him join us this summer.

 

3. Joleon Lescott - 24 million carthorse.

 

4. Matthew Upson - Not particularly good in the air, slow, thank god we never signed this guy?

 

5. Charlie Adam - Championship player having the season of his life

 

6. Steven Pienaar - All running and no end product

 

7. Michael Dawson - Picked for England instead of Cahill? Another carthorse

 

8. John Obi Mikel - What does he do?

 

9. Iker Casillas - Good goalkeeper, great shot stopper, makes more mistakes than supposedly the worlds best keeper should, too small to command his area, not as good as Reina

 

10. John Terry - Superb in the air, has always relied on a good defensive partner to make him look better than he actually is.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

I think Carroll must be up there. Maybe he has something I'm not seeing and maybe I'm going to eat my words, but 35m for him seems about 25m too much.

[silverlining]

 

4. Matthew Upson - Not particularly good in the air, slow, thank god we never signed this guy?

 

10. John Terry - Superb in the air, has always relied on a good defensive partner to make him look better than he actually is.

 

 

Upson's not slow. He is shit, though.

 

Terry is slow. But isn't shit. Yeah, he needs a pacy player next to him, but he's a very good defender, reads the game well and has a great touch and passing range.

[Whelan]

Jermaine Defoe.

 

Darren Bent gets criticised for doing the same as this midget but better!

[sparta7]

Iker Casillas?

 

This is a laugh right?