War with Iran is it imminent

[AngryOfTuebrook]

6 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

You still have otherwise relatively sane people going along with their fairy tales though.

 

That, for me, is easily the scariest aspect of these situations. 

 

That insane, lying, warmongering, imbeciles aren't treated like the insane, lying, warmongering imbeciles that they are.

Lat time the fuckers were spoiling for war with Iran, the anti-war movement in the USA did enough for the Republicans to lose control of both houses of congress.  This time round, there's nobody to stop the evil, murderous bastards.

[Rico1304]

5 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

It would be incredible if the attacks on 12th May and the attacks on Thursday were unrelated.  I strongly suspect that whoever was responsible for the 4 attacks in May was responsible for the 2 attacks on Thursday.  So, no - they are not a coincidence.  There is no evidence of Iranian involvement in any of the attacks.

 

As I said on the other thread, the USA's attempt to provide "evidence" hinged on Thursday's explosions being caused by limpet mines.  The fact that the explosions were caused by missiles destroys the USA's case against Iran; conversely, it does offer proof of the USA fabricating evidence to justify an illegal attack in the Middle East - again.

 

As for "the big one", I'll wait to see some more concrete evidence.  From what little we know so far, it fits in more with the USA's long-practised tactic of engineering an incident or fabricating a threat to justify imperialist aggression; I'm not aware of Iran having any form for randomly attacking other nation's vessels for no apparent reason.

What fact? Where’s the fact?  Show me the fact? 

[Jairzinho]

2 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Lat time the fuckers were spoiling for war with Iran, the anti-war movement in the USA did enough for the Republicans to lose control of both houses of congress.  This time round, there's nobody to stop the evil, murderous bastards.

Give it a fortnight and The Guardian will be beating the drums.

[TheHowieLama]

The Japanese fella said he thought they were bullets -- that seems to be the least plausible

[AngryOfTuebrook]

2 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

What fact? Where’s the fact?  Show me the fact? 

Testimony of the ship's crew, relayed by the president of its owners.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/14/world/middleeast/oil-tanker-attack-gulf-oman.html

 

 

[Captain Howdy]

What would Iran have to gain by attacking these tankers?

[Babb'sBurstNad]

Might be a good time to buy an electric car.

[Captain Howdy]

Scratch that, a response to sanctions , that said why pick a fight with America that they know they can’t win?

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Just now, Captain Howdy said:

Scratch that, a response to sanctions , that said why pick a fight with America that they know they can’t win?

Or why attack Saudi, UAE, Japanese and Norwegian tankers in an attempt to hurt America?

[Rico1304]

3 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Testimony of the ship's crew, relayed by the president of its owners.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/14/world/middleeast/oil-tanker-attack-gulf-oman.html

 

 

Fucking hell! 

 

It’s not testimony is it? It’s a witness account!  Fucking hell you lot are incredible. Fucking unbelievable. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

John Bolton, last year, promising to deliver regime change in Iran by 2019.  (He's a wee bit late, but he's getting there.)

 

https://theintercept.com/2018/03/23/heres-john-bolton-promising-regime-change-iran-end-2018/?fbclid=IwAR3ywadOpeHsaQj5w4Tbtrzc0H2AZBzJAkWcxj39sseT9Hf4vMlomTb7_Uw

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Just now, Rico1304 said:

Fucking hell! 

 

It’s not testimony is it? It’s a witness account!  Fucking hell you lot are incredible. Fucking unbelievable. 

It's the most credible evidence available.

[Rico1304]

1 minute ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Or why attack Saudi, UAE, Japanese and Norwegian tankers in an attempt to hurt America?

Mmm, perhaps to say ‘We’ll light this whole fucking place up unless you drop the sanctions’? 

[Guest Pistonbroke]

16 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

The mindset that propped up the Soviet Union for decades

 

It's been going on for centuries across the World, going back to the Holy crusades and beyond. Just replace terrorism with Religion. 

[Rico1304]

Just now, AngryofTuebrook said:

It's the most credible evidence available.

What the actual fuck. You are really grasping here. Why is this one person, who you know nothing about, the most credible person. 

 

Its fucking laughable. Honestly fucking hilarious. 

[TheHowieLama]

9 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

The Japanese fella said he thought they were bullets -- that seems to be the least plausible

 

3 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

It's the most credible evidence available.

 

Bullets do not blow a side in the hull of a tanker

[Guest Pistonbroke]

1 minute ago, TheHowieLama said:

 

 

Bullets do not blow a side in the hull of a tanker

Maybes he meant shells but came up with the wrong word, because you#d have to be daft to say it was caused by bullets. 

[Section_31]

Everytime I see Rico quoted on here he's making reference to 'you lot' like it's a day out at the zoo or something. Has he got nothing better to do? Take up fishing, sniff some glue or something, life's too short.

[TheHowieLama]

1 minute ago, Pistonbroke said:

 

It's been going on for centuries across the World, going back to the Holy crusades and beyond. Just replace terrorism with Religion. 

It has also helped Khamenei to stay in power

[AngryOfTuebrook]

5 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

What the actual fuck. You are really grasping here. Why is this one person, who you know nothing about, the most credible person. 

 

Its fucking laughable. Honestly fucking hilarious. 

You think there was one crew member on that vessel?

 

Or are you suggesting that the president of the tanker company is lying - for, er, y'know, some reason or something - and Mike Pompeo (who has been spoiling for war with Iran for years) is telling the truth?

 

You, sir, are a moron.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

Just now, Captain Howdy said:

Scratch that, a response to sanctions , that said why pick a fight with America that they know they can’t win?

That's a valid question. At this point practically everything's conjecture from both sides.

 

You need to pick one now though, otherwise you can't gloat afterwards.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

2 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

It has also helped Khamenei to stay in power

Shah is. 

[Rico1304]

4 minutes ago, Pistonbroke said:

Maybes he meant shells but came up with the wrong word, because you#d have to be daft to say it was caused by bullets. 

Now you’re making stuff up. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

6 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

 

 

Bullets do not blow a side in the hull of a tanker

Where did anyone say "bullets"?  The link I provided talked about missiles.

[Rico1304]

2 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

You think there was one crew member on that vessel?

 

Or are you suggesting that the president of the tanker company is lying - for, er, y'know, some reason or something - and Mike Pompeo (who has been spoiling for war with Iran for years) is telling the truth?

 

You, sir, are a moron.

Yes, it’s me who’s the moron. Fuck.