Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?

[Gnasher]

22 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

I'd donate to a crowdfund, but I don't think John Ware needs it, after coming into some money recently.

Stronts in like a cat. On a serious note heard that nutty looking woman with the funny glasses (dont know her name and cant be bothered to Google her) running for the lib dems leadership being interviewed and she sounded very impressive. Well in thought so, so que the jokes.

[Bjornebye]

55 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

I'd donate to a crowdfund, but I don't think John Ware needs it, after coming into some money recently.

 

 

 

 

[Rico1304]

31 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Stronts in like a cat. On a serious note heard that nutty looking woman with the funny glasses (dont know her name and cant be bothered to Google her) running for the lib dems leadership being interviewed and she sounded very impressive. Well in thought so, so que the jokes.

Then someone asked her to define a woman and it all went to shit. 

[Gnasher]

4 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

 

 

 

 

Oh dear. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 hour ago, Rico1304 said:

The apology acknowledged the libel and dealt with it.  His statement stood by it. 
 

Looks like at least one of them is considering suing him. 

Starmer's shithousery reminds me of Standard Chartered pressuring LFC to throw Suarez under the bus in the craven and incorrect belief that that would somehow make the accusations go away.

 

People still claim that LFC is a racist club, because we initially stood by an innocent man.  People will continue to call Labour an anti-Semitic party, irrespective of Starmer flinging my subs around like confetti.

 

The only way to clear your name is to clear your name.

[Gnasher]

4 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Starmer's shithousery reminds me of Standard Chartered pressuring LFC to throw Suarez under the bus in the craven and incorrect belief that that would somehow make the accusations go away.

 

People still claim that LFC is a racist club, because we initially stood by an innocent man.  People will continue to call Labour an anti-Semitic party, irrespective of Starmer flinging my subs around like confetti.

 

The only way to clear your name is to clear your name.

Numerous loves the cunt but then cunts love Numerous.

[sir roger]

11 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Starmer's shithousery reminds me of Standard Chartered pressuring LFC to throw Suarez under the bus in the craven and incorrect belief that that would somehow make the accusations go away.

 

People still claim that LFC is a racist club, because we initially stood by an innocent man.  People will continue to call Labour an anti-Semitic party, irrespective of Starmer flinging my subs around like confetti.

 

The only way to clear your name is to clear your name.

Exactly , and to be fair I blame Corbyn a fair bit for ' rising above ' some of the clearly libellous comments made against him , which emboldened the attackers rather than helping the party.

[Rico1304]

31 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Stronts in like a cat. On a serious note heard that nutty looking woman with the funny glasses (dont know her name and cant be bothered to Google her) running for the lib dems leadership being interviewed and she sounded very impressive. Well in thought so, so que the jokes.

Then someone asked her to define a woman and it all went to shit. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

30 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Numerous loves the cunt but then cunts love Numerous.

Rent free. 

[Gnasher]

4 hours ago, Numero said:

I said he doesn’t have a choice if his objective is to win the election. Of course he has a choice. He could make it harder to win an election. I’m given his job is to win an election, I don’t think it’s much of a choice. He inherited this, no matter who is it fault. 

There is a gang of intelligent posters on this forum who view the person who writes the above shit as some kind of political guru.

[Numero Veinticinco]

41 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

There is a gang of intelligent posters on this forum who view the person who writes the above shit as some kind of political guru.

There's a gang of intelligent posters on this forum who view the person who writes the above shit as some kind of daft cunt.

[Rico1304]

Apparently Labour withdrew their Ofcom complaint about the Panorama programme whilst JC was in charge. Why would they do that? 

[Rico1304]

 

[Red Phoenix]

 

Philip Collins = grade A+ cunt.

[Red Phoenix]

 

[Rocky Sullivan]

Could Dave not relegate this thread to the Arguing about ex managers forum? 

[TheHowieLama]

At least he is still not divisive.

[Creator Supreme]

If Labour throw him out I for one would be happy to welcome to the Greens, Corbyn is as anti-Semitic as Jackie Mason! It's a load of old bollocks, a myth perpetuated by those who want the Palestinians in Israel to continue living under Apartheid rule, and equate any criticism of Israel as criticism of Judaism!

 

Easiest way around all this shit...fuck all religion off!

[Numero Veinticinco]

8 minutes ago, Creator Supreme said:

If Labour throw him out I for one would be happy to welcome to the Greens, Corbyn is as anti-Semitic as Jackie Mason! It's a load of old bollocks, a myth perpetuated by those who want the Palestinians in Israel to continue living under Apartheid rule, and equate any criticism of Israel as criticism of Judaism!

 

Easiest way around all this shit...fuck all religion off!

It’s nothing to do with religion. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

6 hours ago, TheHowieLama said:

At least he is still not divisive.

This line is such horseshit.

 

If you get mugged walking down the street you wouldn't expect people to make sarky comments about you disturbing the peace. 

 

On the one side of this divide you keep alluding to you get people who would have liked the real Corbyn to be PM. On the other side you get people who are opposed to this grotesque anti-Semitic, terrorist-loving, economically-incompetent, extremist that the media fabricated.

[Numero Veinticinco]

39 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

This line is such horseshit.

 

If you get mugged walking down the street you wouldn't expect people to make sarky comments about you disturbing the peace. 

 

On the one side of this divide you keep alluding to you get people who would have liked the real Corbyn to be PM. On the other side you get people who are opposed to this grotesque anti-Semitic, terrorist-loving, economically-incompetent, extremist that the media fabricated.

I think you’re missing those who are smart enough to understand that the charges of antisemitism and terrorist-loving were silly and wise enough to not get their opinions mindlessly from rag headlines, but have a legitimate issue with his leadership, the strategic approach to winning elections, and the tactical approach to issues. I personally just get my opinions spoon-fed by the Daily Mail, but apparently they do exist. 
 

I actually don’t know how anyone can suggest he isn’t divisive. He’s probably the most divisive person since Blair. For every shite-swallowing, unthinking idiot you have a cult-like, ear-fingering acolyte. More importantly for every person who wanted him on the quite sensible grounds that he’s a nice man with solid principles who compares with Johnson like Jesus with Lucifer you have somebody who is a rational critic of how he approaches winning an election, and on many other issues. 
 

Either way, he’s incredibly divisive and it shouldn’t be framed as sensible people wanting the real Corbyn vs weirdo cult-like anti Corbyn weirdos. If anything, doing so illustrates how divisive he was. He still is it seems. 
 

As for removing the whip... well, that’s be an extremely harsh punishment for a many who has been in the Labour Party his entire life and his entire career. That said, the report following the Equality and Human Rights Commission full statutory investigation is coming in final form, and if it says that Corbyn is innocent of any wrongdoing supporters will use its credibility to say It told you so’ but if it recommends removing the whip then they’ll say - as they already are preemptively complaining - that it’s a load of shit. If it recommends these things, what it Starmer supposed to do? Will he be clearing the left out if he feels forced to go with their suggestions? 
 

I maintain it’s an absolute cunt of a position to be in and inherit - no matter who is at fault for it. 

 

[Creator Supreme]

1 hour ago, Nummer Neunzehn said:

It’s nothing to do with religion. 

I wouldn't say that mate, surely religion is used as the most basic back up for these claims (it may not be fair on the religions in question, but that's how they're used). Surely if there was no religion there would be one less thing for people to fight over? (Although being human, I'm sure something else would replace it quick enough)

 

All I will say is 'Follow the gourd!'

[Bjornebye]

The anti-Semitic stuff (In my opinion) is a mix of him showing support for Palestine and also his promise of heavier taxes on the rich. As soon as he announced that the level of vitriol from certain quarters escalated dramatically. Its not anti-semitic to point that out, its an observation. Last year was a disgrace how he was slandered. How Rachel Riley got away with that t-shirt stunt is beyond me. 

[Red Phoenix]

1 hour ago, Nummer Neunzehn said:

If it recommends these things, what it Starmer supposed to do? Will he be clearing the left out if he feels forced to go with their suggestions?

 

Well if he turfs Corbyn out and then Corbyn joins or starts another party as a result of it, still with a lot of support across the country, he could be making the the worst decision of his career. Because with years still to go until the next election and enough people joining whatever party Corbyn ended up in, that party could actually be a genuine rival of Labour. If that happens I don't think there's any possible way that Labour get enough votes to win an election.

 

That's me trying to look at it rationally, if it actually happened I think it'd be fucking outrageous, and I'm sure a lot of others would as well.

[Bjornebye]

I don't think he should "turf" Corbyn out but I do thing Corbyns time is up i the party. So long as he is a part of it there will be continuous slander and deflections.