Andy Carroll, what does he do?

[Russ Atmosphere]

In future if one our players is out of form, ready for the knackers yard, struggling for fitness or just generally looking mediocre I will shout "Young man buck up your ideas or Abs will be in your thread later".

 

Years from now, scholars will scratch their heads searching for the beginnings of the terminology 'Abs will be in your thread later'.

[Iceman]

Nasri 24 million is not value for money either as people will see

 

Yes I thought that would make you bite. You see Abs old boy, there's limited mileage in coming onto our forum trying to wind us up, especially when your team is shite right now and your best players have left you for better teams.

[Red Phoenix]

fair enough. but my point is his price tag will always follow him. and even if he comes good he will never be 35 million player, so he will get questioned.

 

But what gets me is his 18 games for Newcastle being used as what a player he is. 18 games is not enough to judge a player fully. I mean he has been poor for Liverpool in 12 league games. So 6 more we are talking about 18 games. So we will see people say he's only been playing for 18 games, but never mention he was bought on 18 games

 

When Suarez is valued at around £50mil Carroll's fee will effectively be written off anyway because of the cheap amount we got Luis for, so it just doesn't matter.

[BenR_]

Suarez is not a £22m player, he's a world class player who is worth at least double that, so it balances out eventually, and that can be said of our transfer business as a whole this summer as well. We got Enrique for around the same price Arsenal got Santos for and Enrique is 3 times the player. Coates will prove to be excellent value and Bellamy will be worth to us much more than the fuck all we got him for.

 

I really don't see the point in obsessing over the fees as Abs does so often.

My problem with Carroll is not his fee, that doesn't even come into it, it just doesn't matter and speculating on what other players we could have signed for that money is pointless as we were desperately looking for anyone to come in as a Torres replacement and circumstances dictated Carroll was the only option, it's only under those circumstances that we would ever have signed Carroll for anywhere near £35m.

 

My problem with him is that he has been shite since the season started, plain and simple. We look better without him in the side, that is a fact.

Therefore, he has to remain on the bench until he proves (in training or sub appearances) that he deserves to be in the team. That will take hard work from him as he's clearly not fully fit and doesn't seem like the player he was in Newcastle.

[LFC 6 Times]

fuck the excuse of the relative cheap deal we got for Suarez, each transfer needs to be looked at in isolation and so far Carroll hasnt even looked a 5 million player. We should have just been patient and waited until to summer to spend our 50million.

[Phoenix]

Getting Suarez ont he cheap doesn't really balance spending 35 million on Carroll. Neither the reasoning that we got 50 million for Torres so we can overpay.

 

Bottom line is that we could have utilised the more more wisely

[Code]

Carroll looks like someone who has been brought in from a basketball youth camp as some kind of experiement to see if it would work out just to put someone like him up front in a football team.

 

He has been a disaster this season and sometimes I actually question if he is a footballer or not.

[Beantown Red]

 

 

 

 

 

[Rafiagra]

Carroll looks like someone who has been brought in from a basketball youth camp as some kind of experiement to see if it would work out just to put someone like him up front in a football team.

 

He has been a disaster this season and sometimes I actually question if he is a footballer or not.

 

That's bollocks. He was great at Newcastle and decent for us last season when he got decent service.

 

He's not in form but then again, the service he's had (which he needs) has been poor this season.

[Skidfingers McGonical]

Carroll looks like someone who has been brought in from a basketball youth camp as some kind of experiement to see if it would work out just to put someone like him up front in a football team.

 

He has been a disaster this season and sometimes I actually question if he is a footballer or not.

 

He's hasn't been a disaster at all. He still looks rusty, but far from a disaster. He needs to stay up front and just close down. He also needs to work on his control.

 

He needs to get his head up more and work on his awareness.

 

The lad will make it here, and people are using the price tag to beat him with. He shouldn't be getting the flack for that at all as he didn't choose it. It showed intention from the club, and the finger can be pointed away from Andy.

 

He's far from a disaster.

[Guest TK-421]

I'm desperate for him to flourish but my faith is on the wane. Prove me wrong, AC. Proof tastes good, bacon tastes gooood.

[RobbieOR]

Pork chops taste goood.

[Guest TK-421]

The proof of the bacon is in the sandwich.

[Xherdan]

I met someone last night who doesnt like bacon. I mean, what sort of FUCKING CUNT does not like bacon?

[Guest ShoePiss]

It's easy to say now we should have banked the money and waited until the summer to get a replacement, can you imagine if we had though?

[Guest ShoePiss]

I met someone last night who doesnt like bacon. I mean, what sort of FUCKING CUNT does not like bacon?

 

Jews? Actually, I've had a bacon butty in Jerusalem. True story.

[Guest TK-421]

I met someone last night who doesnt like bacon. I mean, what sort of FUCKING CUNT does not like bacon?

 

My word.

[Xherdan]

Just to clarify; this person was 'allowed' to eat bacon but chose not to because 'bacon is rotten stuff'.

[Duff Man]

That's fucked up with there. Even veggies like Bacon

[Code]

He's hasn't been a disaster at all. He still looks rusty, but far from a disaster. He needs to stay up front and just close down. He also needs to work on his control.

 

He needs to get his head up more and work on his awareness.

 

The lad will make it here, and people are using the price tag to beat him with. He shouldn't be getting the flack for that at all as he didn't choose it. It showed intention from the club, and the finger can be pointed away from Andy.

 

He's far from a disaster.

 

He has done fuck all, I`m not saying anything about what he will do in the future or not, but so far he looks so far out of his depth its untrue.

 

I`ve watched him closely several times this season and I`ve also watched a training session close up and Carroll has been abysmal every time.

 

He stands still inside the box and usually jumps from a standing position when the ball comes in the air, his movement and awareness is non existant inside the box and his movement reminds nothing of a PL first striker.

 

At present he hardly deserves a place on the bench let alone in the starting line up, the only thing that keeps him there is his price tag.

[Guest TK-421]

I had bad bacon envy yesterday at lunch. I ordered a risotto which was nice as it had 'shrooms and pan fried sausage in it, but my accomplice had a salad with the most crispy sexual bacon in it and avocado and I got the envy big time.

[LFC 6 Times]

He's shite, when it became apparent that he was our replacement for Torres I was fucking gutted.

[Guest ShoePiss]

He has done fuck all, I`m not saying anything about what he will do in the future or not, but so far he looks so far out of his depth its untrue.

 

I`ve watched him closely several times this season and I`ve also watched a training session close up and Carroll has been abysmal every time.

 

He stands still inside the box and usually jumps from a standing position when the ball comes in the air, his movement and awareness is non existant inside the box and his movement reminds nothing of a PL first striker.

 

At present he hardly deserves a place on the bench let alone in the starting line up, the only thing that keeps him there is his price tag.

 

Can't argue with any of that, it's fucking scary. I'm still expecting him to prove very useful for us and have a decent season though.

[BenR_]

That's the most worrying thing about him, isn't it?

He's so static in the box, he has no sense of positioning there.

He is getting service, but our crosses hardly find him because he doesn't make any effort to actually attack the ball.

 

The thing is, he wasn't like that at Newcastle. In the air at least, he was a fucking menace, he would be running quickly inside the box to attack a quality cross, just off the top of my head I remember this great chance he had against us last season from a Barton cross where he started the move and then made a run into the box and attacked it with a diving header. He had a goal like that against West Ham I think.

 

Fucked if I know why we don't see that from him anymore. He's doing everything but the right thing, he spends most of the game either everywhere but inside the box, or inside the box standing still like a statue. Is this a work-rate issue? Fitness?

[khal]

He's shite, when it became apparent that he was our replacement for Torres I was fucking gutted.

 

It's quite horrible thinking about what we could have got with £35 million instead we ended up with Carroll.