Cameron: "Cuts will change our way of life"

[dennis tooth]

Say what? Stating that someone is living off other people is not contempt, it's just a fact. If I wanted to show contempt I'd be mining phrases from Ayn Rand and using terms like "parasite", which I'm clearly not doing.

 

Certainly, it's a fact that some like to ignore, because their worldview demands that they see other people's money as the state's to do with what it pleases. In stark contrast to those of us who believe the money that the state half inches from its citizens should be used in the most efficient, most fair way possible, because the state has an obligation not just to the people who need its help, but to the people who generate that wealth in the first place.

 

 

 

You are bang wrong NV.

 

What I see is the whole spectrum, from hard workers to scroungers, because people on benefits, like every other conceivable group of people, run the gamut from the worthy to the worthless.

 

My point is that it doesn't matter what I or you or anyone thinks of people on benefits. That is immaterial to our moral obligation to treat them with humanity.

 

 

I cant think of a more 'efficient way' of use of cash money that feeding hungry pay, now you may think we could get some management consultants or some shit to dice it up but Id rather you understood the word efficient.

Its quite a relevant word but efficient for whom?

 

 

Living off other people? People on benefits or Banks?

 

Benefits arent really for the benefit of the poor, they are a boost to the conscience of the rich.

 

I mean what rich man wants to have to worry about hoardes of hungry and desperate people milling round the boundary of their estate for a start?

 

Of course you not being rich may be thinking, why but rich people, who pay the most in, would rather keep them at least fed and maybe inebriated, perhaps addicted to nicotine and growing tumours to further incapacitate the threat, I can see why you may have miscontrued the concept under the mistaken impression your vote counts or that the welfare state was built for some other noble purpose and is being misused by the claimaints, I can tell you it is doing exactly what it was designed to do and if you dont like it dont vote for it. Or go and live in north korea, Im sure your net pay wont be used to feed the hungry over there?

Perhaps Somalia, theres no taxes to bother you?

 

Or like you say we should give it to the 'wealth generator' so which of the chinese who manufacture or the oil producing countries should we spend our taxes on?

 

Maybe the lads on here have a whip around and send you to one of them places see what you think, you get to keep all your wage? 

[Section_31]

Cunts will change our way of life.

[dennis tooth]

Judging from information you've shared on here before, I pay an order of magnitude more tax than you and I have done for a really long time. I've asked for very little from the state; my bins emptied, a couple of trips to the hospital, and education for my child. If I lost my job, through no fault of my own but as a consequence of errors made by others, would I be living off you? Of course not. I've paid enough into the system to have a safety net should I need it. You chose to see it as others living off of you. I chose to see it as contributing to a system that helps me when I fall. That helps others to get on their feet and can then pay into the system in the future. It's a contemptuous way to look at people, in my view.

 

But in his head, even though you pay more into the system and in his terms create more wealth, you should get less say than him.

 

His own argument means he is compelled to accept what you are saying as you pay more in that him so he cant argue to a wealth creator superior.

 

Hes the arnold rimmer of capitalism.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

Cunts will change our way of life.

It has been a really long few years, hasn't it? I know it has flown by in one way, but in another these Tories seem like they've been in forever. I'm not mad keen on Labour, I'm really not, but I can't see a better alternative in 2015 than those, slightly less cunty cunts getting back in power.

[dennis tooth]

A wealth generator= skoolz, universities, military research, space exploration, hospital since it save the lives of wealth creators and keeps the populations health erm police who allow for a reliable transaction or some random dude who SD admires and is sexually drawn to?

[Dr Nowt]

Shows what he really thinks with them comments, the mask has slipped a bit there.

 

What mask? 

 

[dennis tooth]

SD more concerned with unelected muslim immams peadophillia than the MPs in his own party peadophillia, much easier to point out the faults of others though isnt it?

[Rico1304]

Then there'll be a counter revolution. I'll drive round to Rico's house in a combine harvester with CCCP written on the side, steal all his garden furniture and give it to some smackheads to inject into their thumbs.

I had to send it back because it split!!! But if the CH can catch a badger then I'll put the kettle on.

[Creator Supreme]

Show me a rich banker that lives in a local community!

[Guest Pistonbroke]

Show me a rich banker that lives in a local community!

Maybe SD had a typo and meant to say Wanker instead. 

[KopOut]

Don't dodge the question, answer it. Does a rich banker who loses his job and cannot afford to pay his mortgage deserve to remain in his community, or is that a luxury only available to those living off the state?

 

Own your words you sodding coward.

I would argue that a rich banker who understands the concept of 'wealth' will own his house freehold. Mortgages dont generally put people in a position of wealth strength, at least not in the contemporary world of finance.

[Rico1304]

I would argue that a rich banker who understands the concept of 'wealth' will own his house freehold. Mortgages dont generally put people in a position of wealth strength, at least not in the contemporary world of finance.

if the mortgage rate is lower than a return on investments why would they own outright?

[dennis tooth]

Sd has never heard of means tests?

[KopOut]

if the mortgage rate is lower than a return on investments why would they own outright?

He would be aware that the whole crazy system is balancing on a knife edge. He would know that the Oil Junk Bonds that the top six banks have invested heavily in are spiraling down because Saudi Arabia are dumping cheap oil on a massive scale and a Barrolof oil has just about halved,

 

He would, in effect be liquidising right now, to save his castle.

 

Then he can go on the dole and not have to move.

 

 

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[Strontium]

Will be class if there's a coalition in place and Labour go full socialist. They'll create a super council which spans the whole planet and does everything for everyone, from emptying their bins to tickling their balls, at least a third of the workforce will be allowed to go to sleep in the office at any one time and it will all be funded by Peaches Geldoff's kids' trust fund, SD will be on here saying 'what do you expect the state to do, let people tickle their own balls? Spare me your pseudo-Tea Party dogma Stu you wretch.

 

Sorry to disappoint you. If there's a Lab-Lib coalition, nothing will change - I'll still believe that one bedroom is sufficient for one person.

[Strontium]

You're a troll SD. You really are. You set up false equivalence on the term community, knowingly. You then have the cheek to call me a coward after spending the last few days deliberately not commenting on the EDM because you haven't got the courage to make a call on whether you think it's important enough for the Lib Dems to sign it, in case they then don't and you've criticized them. You're a paper tiger mate and you have driven yourself to the point where you are now a poster of almost no merit whatsoever with regards to politics. You are critically compromised.

 

A rich banker has the right not to be moved miles away from his family and friends. That is the stability he has a right to. He has a right to a suitable property. It may well be a little less flash than he's been used to but there we go. 

 

He also has the right to have a spare room in case he needs a carer, or his kids need to come home.  

 

He doesn't have the right to still live in a mansion, he deserves to be looked after and treated as a human being by a nation with more than enough wealth to do so.

 

You are no doubt aware of this stance, because there are prominent Lib Dems saying the same things, but obviously acting like a cunt to is far more fun.

 

Only an idiot would think moving a family between two houses of similar low value and the state having to take on a mansion and keep someone there were the same thing. You're not an idiot. You're just dishonest.

 

How can anyone even think of repping this scandalous pile of libel, is beyond me. It is actually fucking scary that anyone is as deluded as this.

 

There is no false equivalence anywhere, and you spout a load of shite about it being okay for a banker to be moved out of his community as he's only having to move a few miles away, as if people in social housing being asked to downsize are being transferred to Bangladesh or something.

 

There's no dishonesty in my words, you're just backtracking from your statement that people have the right to live a stable life in a specific community, presumably for ever, because in actual fact, to give everyone that right would cost the state an absolute fortune if, indeed, it wasn't impossible in the first place. So you make up some spurious self-serving definition of "community".

 

So far as my comments about this EDM are concerned, sorry that you didn't think my answer was good enough, but tough shit. I don't think it's important that Lib Dems sign a poxy EDM, as I've already stated - twice - but go ahead and deny for a third time that I've answered your stupid fucking question, because that's what you do. Fingers in the ears, lalala, I can't hear you.

[Strontium]

Love the person put forward as not living off people was a banker.

 

You know, who had to have their failures bailed out because "please don't send us to the wall...please!"

 

 

Not all banks were bailed out. In fact, only a few were. Most bankers are thoroughly responsible, hard-working people. But you know that.

 

Never mind, I'm sure someone will jump on your lazy generalisation, just as they jumped on the (non-existent) generalisation in my post about people on benefits. Any minute now.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

I was totally right, you are a massive cock. I can't wait for the Lib Dems to bomb at the next election and nose dive into total obscurity, wonder what turn your absurd take on politics will take then. You rarely answer the important questions put to you, you just disappear and then return to spout further shite with a high dose of spin. You are everything I despise in a human being, the sad thing about it is you are not a thick cunt, just a pig ignorant cunt. 

[Strontium]

I've shat turds with higher IQs than you. Dimwit.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

I've shat turds with higher IQs than you. Dimwit.

I've had better put downs than that, you must try harder. Plus don't you think there's an apostrophe missing from IQ's? 

[Strontium]

I've had better put downs than that, you must try harder. Plus don't you think there's an apostrophe missing from IQ's? 

 

IQs is a plural, so no apostrophe required.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

My bad, English has not been my main language for quite some time. Although I bet you feel all superior now? But hey, you are still a massive cunt, I'm not even sure why I engage in conversations with you, all you do is put spin on everything you answer, you are also a hypocritical cry baby. Like many believe on here, you are nothing but a wum trying to wind people up and grind them down with your anal posts. I actually enjoy seeing you squirm against certain posters, shot down on a daily basis. 

 

As far as your new signature goes...hahaha, total fucking bullshit....should read. "Liberals, we'll sleep with anybody....if we don't get any joy on that front, we'll accept dogs." 

[Anubis]

Was watching They Live before. It reminded me how the first 15 minutes absolutely nails an overview of the society we live in.

[Bjornebye]

Don't dodge the question, answer it. Does a rich banker who loses his job and cannot afford to pay his mortgage deserve to remain in his community, or is that a luxury only available to those living off the state?

 

Own your words you sodding coward.

You fucking fat hypocritical cunt you dodge anything you don't like . You are the biggest shithouse coward on this site and if I ever met you I'd fucking batter you for being such a little cunt. Some of the shit you come out with is fucking disgusting. Call yourself a human being? You are a fucking woolyback son of a cunt. Yes Daniel I've found out a bit about you and your ilk. You dog fucking beastiality shithouse. PM me your address I'm gonna shove a bargain bucket up your arse

 

And a box of pedigree chum

 

And I'm not arsed if I get called out for this post , I'm just saying what the majority think. Now go crying to Dave like a little girl you piece of shit.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

You fucking fat hypocritical cunt you dodge anything you don't like . You are the biggest shithouse coward on this site and if I ever met you I'd fucking batter you for being such a little cunt. Some of the shit you come out with is fucking disgusting. Call yourself a human being? You are a fucking woolyback son of a cunt. Yes Daniel I've found out a bit about you and your ilk. You dog fucking beastiality shithouse. PM me your address I'm gonna shove a bargain bucket up your arse And a box of pedigree chum And I'm not arsed if I get called out for this post , I'm just saying what the majority think. Now go crying to Dave like a little girl you piece of shit.

I read that in a robotic voice. Like the PB15 and Hodgson videos.

 

http://www.fromtexttospeech.com/texttospeech_output_files/0407760001419070761/4294222.mp3