Which team is "bigger"?

[madstock]

I agree with what you are saying. It was a fledgling competition back then and it did not have nearly the prestige or pedigree as later years. It's their good fortune that it wasn't so heavily contested, but by all accounts they still had a marvellous team (Di Stefano and the like I think).

 

Surely Hermes was at the finals in question and can shed some light on teams and line-ups?

[Guest TK-421]

It was invite only and Real Madrid dished out the invitations, it stinks, unless that's a myth. They're still "bigger" than us though although that Robinho is a tiny little guy. I'll get me replica training coat.

[redrosetints]

Nah, it's very successful. So successful that there's a waiting list for tickets.

 

But isnt it about the capacity of your stadium ?

[Lapskaus]

Bigger? What do you mean bigger? More trophies or...? ....naah, Im not buyin that

[Flying Pig]

they have won 29 titles.

 

 

A lot of Real's success was in the fifties (especially the Euro cups). Looking at it, it seems they were the 'Chelski' of the day, against teams equivalent to Accrington Stanley!, and that blemishes their success IMO. :thumbdown

[scousewillis]

I always use 18-5 to tell mancs we're a bigger club than them. I'd be a hypocrite if I claim that we're bigger than Madrid who are at 29-9.

[Paul]

We're the biggest club in the world: most successful club from the birthplace of football. Madrid's first five (?) consecutive wins were Mickey Mouse as no-one entered the European Cup. Therefore we're bigger than them. Anyone who disagrees is weird.

[Hermes]

Which European club has been champions of Europe most times in the last 40 years?

 

Liverpool Football Club

[Hermes]

Surely Hermes was at the finals in question and can shed some light on teams and line-ups?

 

I have a full length video of the 1960 final, 10 goals. Not a bad game actually.

[Vulmea]

if it is just on titles - 18 -5 implies the domestic trophies are more important, so what about Ajax 25-4 ? Juve 26 -2, Benfica 34 -2, or if its the european titles which take priority AC Milan are 14-6...........can't have it both ways

 

'big club' should be judged on attendance, capacity, wealth, reputation, fan base as well as 'success' imo and it should all be weighted to the last decade or so.

 

To my mind there are about 11 'big clubs' : Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, United, Milan, Inter, Celtic, Juve, Benfica, Ajax and Us

 

- Chelsea and Arsenal are missing a euro trophy, Dortmund, Roma and Porto etc also just fall short for different reasons..........Valencia, Hamburg, Newcastle, Rangers, Marseille, Sevilla, Lyon, PSV would all have to battle it out amongst themselves to get into the top 20

 

whichever way you cut it Madrid are bigger the fact they are state sponsored and a number of their titles are dubious to say the least doesn't alter that unfortunately

[mickyc1973]

madrid ,by some distance in my opinion ,they can even get the government to bale them out .

and if liverpool had won the first five cups would we be discounting them ,i dont think so.

[Unrighteous]

IMO... Real Madrid are the 'biggest' club in the World. Most trophies, and most money.

 

I think our supporters are better, I think our history is more unique, but they have the trophies and the money.

[Hermes]

To my mind there are about 11 'big clubs' : Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, United, Milan, Inter, Celtic, Juve, Benfica, Ajax and Us

 

 

You're taking the piss? They're not even the biggest club in Glasgow.

[jackofdk]

Which European club has been champions of Europe most times in the last 40 years?

 

Liverpool Football Club

 

AC Milan also has five in that period as well as one from 1963.

[D.I.C.]

What about the lure of the club? Madrid can just about lure any player they want to the club, even players who are figureheads at their own club. Could we do that? e.g. could we have taken Figo from Barca? Or Zidane from Juventus?

[Hermes]

What about the lure of the club? Madrid can just about lure any player they want to the club, even players who are figureheads at their own club. Could we do that? e.g. could we have taken Figo from Barca? Or Zidane from Juventus?

 

We took Nunez from Real Madrid.

[Jay Glover]

The fact they won the first 5 European cups pisses me off!!

 

That is all

[Vulmea]

You're taking the piss? They're not even the biggest club in Glasgow.

 

Rangers have more domestic titles (40 to Celtics 25) but they dont have a european cup do they and most of their domestic titles were pre-war - you trying to shoot yeself down in flames or what? their stadiums smaller, their average attendance is 10,000 less, their skint............try and keep up...

[Stu Monty]

What about the lure of the club? Madrid can just about lure any player they want to the club, even players who are figureheads at their own club. Could we do that? e.g. could we have taken Figo from Barca? Or Zidane from Juventus?

 

For that money: yes. It's amazing how great your team can be if being in the red doesn't concern you.

[thisisanfield]

Celtic are hardly one of the top 11 teams in the world.

[Guest Ulysses Everett McGill]

For that money: yes. It's amazing how great your team can be if being in the red doesn't concern you.

 

Spot on

 

Look at Chelsea

 

More pertinent, look as Lucas Niell

 

If some billionaire went out and took over Reading, and give them a bottless pit of cash, they also could sign anyone they wanted, doesnt make them a big club.

[Stu Monty]

I'm not saying Real aren't big, or bigger, as I think there's not a lot in it but I do think you have to look at the fact that 5 of their European Cups were earnt when the trophy was in it's infancy and not everyone was in it and the most recent ones were done whilst goin £200m into the red, which without the council bailing them out would leave them in deep, deep, liquidisation-looming shite.

[Alonso]

My cock has a massive fan base.

 

no wonder you feel lonely and trying to advertise your self here :biggrin:

[Alonso]

Does anyone else think that there's something a bit funny about winning the first five years of the tournament? It's kind of like Uruguay winning the World Cup when we weren't even in it but would have pissed it, I can't respect it as much.

 

well, the fact is they won it. Plus you can only beat whats in front of you.

Like manc cunts say we have not won a premier league.

[Alonso]

I always use 18-5 to tell mancs we're a bigger club than them. I'd be a hypocrite if I claim that we're bigger than Madrid who are at 29-9.

 

exactly mate, that makes sense.