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  1. I have no idea what Kenny's thinking other than he feels tremendous pride in the job he's doing and is massively grateful he's had the chance to do it. Neither of those things means he thinks he's the best person to take us forward or he thinks he can help the club best by being the manager. you have the raving loons on here saying give it to Kenny everybody else can fuck off Its down to the man himself and whether he thinks he's the best man for the job. He said not to take the job would have been letting the fans down but the bloke has to genuinely believe he is the best man for the job to take it forward in the summer, they are totally different things. Only he knows how hard he's finding the job, whether he's confident with the ideas and training methods, managing the ego's of millionaire primadonnas etc. To me he looks like he's never been happier but I dont know whats going on inside the lads mind. The fans are putting massive pressure on him to carry on, he knows the faith and trust they have in him, its going to be tough on him to say give it to somebody else even if he thought it was for the best but I trust the bloke totally to do what he thinks is right, I think he's the best man right now to lead the club forward, but only he knows if he believes he is. They can't appoint anybody without getting Kenny's approval anybody else's position would be untenable without Kenny giving them the nod. But if Kenny did say let somebody else do it then what happens - were do those saying everybody else can fuck off go then? We'd need to get behind that man and not be constantly looking back at Kenny, comparing the two and making the new lads position impossible.
  2. So what if Kenny actually preferred for it to be somebody else next season? What if he thought it was for the best?
  3. Would Samba qualify as a 'ball playing CB who's dominant in the air?
  4. inter toto doesn't exist it got binned when they revamped the europa cup
  5. maybe you should just think harder - you're half way there - all these professional managers see something in him that you dont - is it likely they are wrong or you are..........pause.... think.......think a bit more.... pause - push through the pain.......still not there yet - those people who watch him regularly (as in a couple of hours every day not 90 minutes every fortnight) keep picking him despite what you think is obvious...........go on you can do it make the connection ........
  6. The idea is that the club pays for itself - instead of 50 million going in interest payments every year its spent on the club and the team Moores didn't spend any of his own money, neither have Hicks and Gillet -the club just becomes a non profit organisation ploughing whatever money it makes back in to the club - the club can still take out loans but what it should never do is take out the size of loans the current owners have Once the club is fan owned - and it only has to be 51% fan owned so nowhere near the numbers bandied about - 50 mil would do it then the money the club makes is put back into the club and if the fans own 51% - then big business can own the other 49% and bring their commercial and financial expertise to the party The Arsenal directors have not paid for their new stadium the club has The fans would not run the club on a day to day basis they would employ professionals to do that - but fans would sit on the board and would determine policy - just as they do at Barca, benfica, bayern munich and real madrid - taking advice and guidance from the experts Fan ownership can happene provided we all believe in it and want it to happen
  7. bonkers stuff Flanagan is short, not that pacey and for me overly aggressive and needs to improve his positional play - he's also not been tested at any level other than the stiffs which is not a great level - dont think he's been capped internationally either (depends how clicky that set uo is I guess) - he has looked enthusiastic and energetic and committed a bit like any scouse lad given the chance would but I bit ott to predict he WILL make it imho - hope he does - just dont think the odds are good currently. Did he have a brother at the club? Robinson looks a bit special has done for a while - its the maturity and composure on the ball that strikes me - looks effortless - doesn't always make the right decision but I think that can be learned Do they share a birthday or have I screwed my notes up?
  8. Don't listen lad the poll is fine and its pretty straight forward would you accept relegation if it got rid of the yanks? you can interpret that question whatever way you like mine would be 'would you accept relegation to get the club into the right hands' and the answer is 100% yes those scared of what the blue noses or mancs might say - who gives a fuck? with our club in the right hands we would piss all over them, twice on sunday.
  9. Am I missing something The clubs just paid off its manager between 3 ans 6 million despite not having a pot to piss in and presumably its going to cost just as much to get rid of the backroom team. We're up for sale so any new manager would sensibly only be offered a short contract incase the new owners want to select their own man The managers just gone because he was told he could not have the money he raised through player sales We have no transfer budget and can't even afford a £2million young scottish defender We are just about to sell 3 of our 4 world class players Whoever comes in has to work with twit and twat Whoever comes in will be vetted by twit and twat And you are trying to discuss who would be a sensible appoitment Sounds like we need a spineless, clueless fuckwit who has incredible motivational powers - sounds like matin o'neill apart from the motivational powers
  10. but thats where fan ownership comes in - if its made clear any other owners will not be welcome , their profits will be restricted etc, if the fans are the only people they can sell to the price has to come down first get the price down to a realistic current valuation - 300 mil which should mean its sold as a going concern top players and all - any lower and its a fire sale then work out what type of debt the club itself could support based on turnover and still have money to invest in players thats 100 million which we'd work to get down and would be loaned against the worth of the club a 30% mortgage if you like then work out how much investment would be required to ensure a majority fan holding 149 million but with right for a stadium build and share of profit probably that means the fans themselves would need to raise about 50 million not 500 million - bearing in mind the two leeches bought the club with fuck all I know its all a pipe dream - it needs investors, still needs 50 mil from us , needs the fans to act as one but it wouldn't need 500 mil or even close so fan ownership could work, the maths could work but it would need incredible leadership and a hell of a lot of guts and faith from us because everybody and his dog would be telling us it can't work and a million reasons why
  11. Sorry if i'm stating the bleedin obvious but fan ownership works at three of the biggest clubs in the world - barcelona, real madrid and bayern munich are all 'fan owned' its not a question of can - its a question of how to make it work here at bayern they have CEO's from many of Germany's leading corporations on their board - the club is something like 80% owned by fans and 20% owned by big firms like adidas at Barcelona they have an elected president its not a question of each fan votes on Player a or picks the team - the fans empower a board of professionals to do their job - they elect their leaders, agree policies - and those people are answerable to the fans for their decisions - it would be up to us what powers they have -how often they are elected etc. the worrying thing on here is three years on from share liverpool kicking off at least 75% of fans have no clue what its about - they have seriously failed to get their message out and its because they aimed it at middle class 5K punters instead of normal fans - and I'm appalled they haven't tried to build with the union and instead want to carry on pissing in the wind on their own - the only way this works - the only chance we have is to get together - - be bigger than all the small minded politics and get rid of the two bastards who own us good news the union are moving forward disgusted they couldn't work together
  12. Can't really argue well enough against most of your points - but for me the march would be to show reds that there are enough numbers to make a match day protest work - to feel good about ourselves - to give us the courage to take it to the next step - of itself very hard to argue that it would impact the owners but its more about what it can do for us its like the european atmosphere at anfield - ok it can cause some opposition to bottle it but by far the most important thing is what it does to our players - makes them feel 10 foot tall and invincible - this march could give enough people hope that we can make a difference - it could be the tipping point - when your average Joe turns round and says you know what fuck 'em we can do this, a show of red strength that Shanks would smile at
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