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Israel - A Rant


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19 hours ago, Gnasher said:

The weapon of starvation.

 

What a world. 

 

 

I admit I'm finding it very hard watching videos like that and refraining from wishing great violence on the Israeli Government, the IDF, and those who support them.

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30 minutes ago, Anubis said:

 

 

I admit I'm finding it very hard watching videos like that and refraining from wishing great violence on the Israeli Government, the IDF, and those who support them.

 

 

I saw a discussion on twitter (Veevers below) which sort of mirrors my feelings on the situation in Gaza.  It's difficult, to say the least.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2024-02-16/rafah-gaza-hospitals-surgery-israel-bombing-ground-offensive-children

 

 

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In late January, I left my home in Virginia, where I work as a plastic and reconstructive surgeon and joined a group of physicians and nurses traveling to Egypt with the humanitarian aid group MedGlobal to volunteer in Gaza.

 

I have worked in other war zones. But what I witnessed during the next 10 days in Gaza was not war — it was annihilation. At least 28,000 Palestinians have been killed in Israel’s bombardment of Gaza. From Cairo, Egypt’s capital, we drove 12 hours east to the Rafah border. We passed miles of parked humanitarian aid trucks because they weren’t allowed into Gaza. Aside from my team and other envoy members from the United Nations and World Health Organization, there were very few others there.

 

Entering southern Gaza on Jan. 29, where many have fled from the north, felt like the first pages of a dystopian novel. Our ears were numb with the constant humming of what I was told were the surveillance drones that circled constantly. Our noses were consumed with the stench of 1 million displaced humans living in close proximity without adequate sanitation. Our eyes got lost in the sea of tents. We stayed at a guest house in Rafah. Our first night was cold, and many of us couldn’t sleep. We stood on the balcony listening to the bombs, and seeing the smoke rise from Khan Yunis.

 

 

As we approached the European Gaza Hospital the next day, there were rows of tents that lined and blocked the streets. Many Palestinians gravitated toward this and other hospitals hoping it would represent a sanctuary from the violence — they were wrong.

 

People also spilled into the hospital: living in hallways, stairwell corridors and even storage closets. The once-wide walkways designed by the European Union to accommodate the busy traffic of medical staff, stretchers and equipment were now reduced to a single-file passageway. On either side, blankets hung from the ceiling to cordon off small areas for entire families, offering a sliver of privacy. A hospital designed to accommodate about 300 patients was now struggling to care for more than 1,000 patients and hundreds more seeking refuge.

 

There were a limited number of local surgeons available. We were told that many had been killed or arrested, their whereabouts or even their existence unknown. Others were trapped in occupied areas in the north or nearby places where it was too risky to travel to the hospital. There was only one local plastic surgeon left and he covered the hospital 24/7. His home had been destroyed, so he lived in the hospital, and was able to stuff all of his personal possessions into two small hand bags.

This narrative became all too common among the remaining staff at the hospital. This surgeon was lucky, because his wife and daughter were still alive, although almost everyone else working in the hospital was mourning the loss of their loved ones.

 

I began work immediately, performing 10 to 12 surgeries a day, working 14 to 16 hours at a time. The operating room would often shake from the incessant bombings, sometimes as frequent as every 30 seconds. We operated in unsterile settings that would’ve been unthinkable in the United States. We had limited access to critical medical equipment: We performed amputations of arms and legs daily, using a Gigli saw, a Civil War-era tool, essentially a segment of barbed wire. Many amputations could’ve been avoided if we’d had access to standard medical equipment. It was a struggle trying to care for all the injured within the constructs of a healthcare system that has utterly collapsed.

 

I listened to my patients as they whispered their stories to me, as I wheeled them into the operating room for surgery. The majority had been sleeping in their homes, when they were bombed. I couldn’t help thinking that the lucky ones died instantaneously, either by the force of the explosion or being buried in the rubble. The survivors faced hours of surgery and multiple trips to the operating room, all while mourning the loss of their children and spouses. Their bodies were filled with shrapnel that had to be surgically pulled out of their flesh, one piece at a time.

 

I stopped keeping track of how many new orphans I had operated on. After surgery they would be filed somewhere in the hospital, I’m unsure of who will take care of them or how they will survive. On one occasion, a handful of children, all about ages 5 to 8, were carried to the emergency room by their parents. All had single sniper shots to the head. These families were returning to their homes in Khan Yunis, about 2.5 miles away from the hospital, after Israeli tanks had withdrawn. But the snipers apparently stayed behind. None of these children survived.

 

On my last day, as I returned to the guest house where locals knew foreigners were staying, a young boy ran up and handed me a small gift. It was a rock from the beach, with an Arabic inscription written with a marker: “From Gaza, With Love, Despite the Pain.” As I stood on the balcony looking out at Rafah for the last time, we could hear the drones, bombings and bursts of machine-gun fire, but something was different this time: The sounds were louder, the explosions were closer.

 

This week, Israeli forces raided another large hospital in Gaza, and they’re planning a ground offensive in Rafah. I feel incredibly guilty that I was able to leave while millions are forced to endure the nightmare in Gaza. As an American, I think of our tax dollars paying for the weapons that likely injured my patients there. Already driven from their homes, these people have nowhere else to turn.

 

Irfan Galaria is a physician with a plastic and reconstructive surgery practice in Chantilly, Va.

 

 

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Not going to quote twitter Gnasher but why post that when you have absolutely no idea of its context, location or anything about it. It could be anywhere or anything. Completely hideous or totally appalling. Just spreading 'stuff' is not adding to the rightful condemnation of Israels actions. If you are going to post other peoples stuff it may be good to at least attempt some verification. Not a personal dig but come on. If you want to add to this do it properly.

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23 minutes ago, Poor Scouser T said:

Not going to quote twitter Gnasher but why post that when you have absolutely no idea of its context, location or anything about it. It could be anywhere or anything. Completely hideous or totally appalling. Just spreading 'stuff' is not adding to the rightful condemnation of Israels actions. If you are going to post other peoples stuff it may be good to at least attempt some verification. Not a personal dig but come on. If you want to add to this do it properly.

 

I've no idea what you are talking about.

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28 minutes ago, Poor Scouser T said:

Not going to quote twitter Gnasher but why post that when you have absolutely no idea of its context, location or anything about it. It could be anywhere or anything. Completely hideous or totally appalling. Just spreading 'stuff' is not adding to the rightful condemnation of Israels actions. If you are going to post other peoples stuff it may be good to at least attempt some verification. Not a personal dig but come on. If you want to add to this do it properly.

 

If you are talking about this. It's got the location in the message. 

 

 

P.S Dont tell me what and what not to post and what platform I can and can't use. If you don't like it use the ignore button.  You've no right to try censorship on people's posts.

 

 

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28 minutes ago, Poor Scouser T said:

Not going to quote twitter Gnasher but why post that when you have absolutely no idea of its context, location or anything about it. It could be anywhere or anything. Completely hideous or totally appalling. Just spreading 'stuff' is not adding to the rightful condemnation of Israels actions. If you are going to post other peoples stuff it may be good to at least attempt some verification. Not a personal dig but come on. If you want to add to this do it properly.


Here you go, you big racist nonce.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-middle-east-68342759

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3 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

 

I've no idea what you are talking about.

Do you know where this is?

Do you know when it was filmed?

Do you know who filmed it?

Do you know if there where casualties?

That is what i am on about.

1 hour ago, Gnasher said:

They're defending themselves again.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Poor Scouser T said:

Do you know where this is?

Do you know when it was filmed?

Do you know who filmed it?

Do you know if there where casualties?

That is what i am on about.

 

 

It tells you where it is in the fucking post. Sidon South Lebanon. 

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Doubt you have had much exposure to this mate but video evidence is probably one of the most unreliable forms of evidence out there. It is easily manipulated and often has no context. I am not excusing Israels abhorrent actions in this, they need to be brought to order but spreading meaningless blast videos is helping no one. 

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3 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

“Video evidence is probably one of the most unreliable forms of evidence out there” is quite possibly the most amazing quote of the year on here so far. 

Video evidence alone is worthless. The video above for all the viewer knows could have been filmed anywhere at any time. It may be Iraq, it may be Somalia. How do you know? As supporting evidence with context and evidence it is vital but as a random vid on twitter it is meaningless.

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It was filmed in my country, Lebanon. And I can attest that the location is Ghazieh, near the coastal city of Saida. Down that road there are some excellent Lahm B’ajine places to try. The football club representing that town is currently languishing at the bottom of the Lebanese league.

 

Also, the people whose voices are heard in that video are speaking Arabic with a Lebanese accent. The man is saying: “It’s an air raid. An air raid on us”!. 

 

Happy now? Or do you also need to see documented identification of the shoe size of the Israeli criminal who launched the bombs?

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7 hours ago, Jurgen Knows said:

It was filmed in my country, Lebanon. And I can attest that the location is Ghazieh, near the coastal city of Saida. Down that road there are some excellent Lahm B’ajine places to try. The football club representing that town is currently languishing at the bottom of the Lebanese league.

 

Also, the people whose voices are heard in that video are speaking Arabic with a Lebanese accent. The man is saying: “It’s an air raid. An air raid on us”!. 

 

Happy now? Or do you also need to see documented identification of the shoe size of the Israeli criminal who launched the bombs?

There is a bit of supporting evidence. Just as I said. Now it is more reliable as it was it wasn't.

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