The McCanns...

[Pureblood]

The whole "checking routine" was most likely fabricated as part of the cover-up.  Who organises a system of checks every 15 minutes when they are dining out?  Nobody, that's who.  It would completely kill the ambience of the evening.  It is also documented that the resort offered a free baby-sitting/watching service for parents, to enable them to go out in the evenings without worrying about their children.

 

There is evidence to suggest that Madeleine died four days earlier on the Sunday.  This is because there are no known images of her alive after that day.  The so-called "last photo" of her taken by the swimming pool could not have possibly been taken after Sunday 31st May, because the weather on the following days was overcast, whereas on Sunday 31st May the weather was bright and sunny as appears in the photo.  It is a virtual certainty that the last photo was taken on Sunday 31st May given the weather on the following days.  

 

There are no other photos of Madeleine after Sunday 31st May, except for the ludicrous "tennis ball" photo which doesn't even look like Madeleine.  

[Anny Road]

Fuck me.

 

How then did the wonder dog smell her in the car hired 29 days later?

[SasaS]

She's gone, get over it.

[Jay86]

How old are you 11.

I’ve taken dumps which could formulate more coherent and valid arguments.

I was about 19 years ago. I didn’t say I wanted an argument or I didn’t say that I’m an expert. My opinions is that they shouldn’t have left their children alone, whether they went and checked on them or not and that they know what happened to that little girl. I don’t give a shit about what you think or what you think you know, that’s just what I think happened.

[Anny Road]

I was about 19 years ago. I didn’t say I wanted an argument or I didn’t say that I’m an expert. My opinions is that they shouldn’t have left their children alone, whether they went and checked on them or not and that they know what happened to that little girl. I don’t give a shit about what you think or what you think you know, that’s just what I think happened.

If you don’t like arguments you shouldn’t say unsubstantiated shite without anything whatsoever to back it up.

Talk shit you will get challenged.

 

I’ll just leave this line here which you should read again several times.

 

I haven’t got evidence nor can I be bothered to find any of the shit I’ve read and seen over the past 10 years but I think they accidentally did it and have covered it up since,

[Anny Road]

What is the plural noun for mongs?

[Winston Wolf]

That's pure nonsense.

Gold's just around the corner

Breakdown's coming up round the bend

[easytoslip]

What is the plural noun for mongs?

Fuckin' mongii thought every idiot knew that

[Pureblood]

Gold's just around the corner

Breakdown's coming up round the bend

 

 

Sorry, but it is. 

[Winston Wolf]

Sorry, but it is. 

Evening Martin. Gloves off.

[Pureblood]

Evening Martin. Gloves off.

 

 

*shrugs*

[Winston Wolf]

*shrugs*

OK. Yeah. OK.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

so watching your kids on holiday and not leaving them unattended is not/ is a bad thing. Rightly or wrongly. The word is wrongly.

 

I have no clue like everyone else but leaving your babies unattended makes you a cunt Medical Degree or Shithouse cleaner in a pub.

[SammyAftershave]

Have you ever seen the lead singer of The Bangles?

 

She was my ex-Mrs first cousin. True story.

[Pureblood]

OK. Yeah. OK.

 

Just being serious for a minute, what evidence do you have that Madeleine was abducted and killed?  

 

I respect your view but I don't think you've looked into this case much.  That's the impression I get from reading your post.

 

I think if you looked into it properly then given your background/profession, you would realise that the abduction theory is extremely unlikely. 

[Winston Wolf]

Just being serious for a minute, what evidence do you have that Madeleine was abducted and killed?  

Just being serious for a minute, friendship aside, which it is, on the subject, what evidence, despite intensive investigations into the case and Millions of pounds spent and the fact that nearly 11 years later. no charges have been brought, what evidence do you have that she wasn't?

Apart from a bungled Portuguese investigation and someone who wanted to sell a book?

You, YOU are the one making the claims that the McCann's are being shielded by the Police and the Government.

Anything you want to get lippy about, outside this topic, you know where to find me.

[Pureblood]

Just being serious for a minute, friendship aside, which it is, on the subject, what evidence, despite intensive investigations into the case and Millions of pounds spent and the fact that nearly 11 years later. no charges have been brought, what evidence do you have that she wasn't?

Apart from a bungled Portuguese investigation and someone who wanted to sell a book?

You, YOU are the one making the claims that the McCann's are being shielded by the Police and the Government.

Anything you want to get lippy about, outside this topic, you know where to find me.

 

 

The evidence that she wasn't abducted is manifold and if I were to list it all I would literally be here all night.

 

If there is one single bit of evidence that convinces me there wasn't an abduction, it is the McCanns changing their witness statement about the shutters being jemmied/forced open.  They later said that the so-called abductor entered through the apartment front doors, which were unlocked.  

 

I also think it's unlikely that the abductor wouldn't have been spotted following the largest scale investigation for a missing person in Portuguese history.

 

Finally, a corpse has not been found.  

 

I'm not being "lippy", I'm posting about this because I find it generally interesting.  

[ZonkoVille77]

I don't know what to believe to be honest.

But Gerry looks like a right shifty cunt to me.

 

That's all I have to add to this wonderful debate.

[Winston Wolf]

The evidence that she wasn't abducted is manifest and if I were to list it all I would literally be here all night.

 

If there is one single bit of evidence that convinces me there wasn't an abduction, it is the McCanns changing their witness statement about the shutters being jemmied/forced open.  They later said that the so-called abductor entered through the apartment front doors, which were unlocked.  

 

I also think it's unlikely that the abductor wouldn't have been spotted following the largest scale investigation for a missing person in Portuguese history.

 

Finally, a corpse has not been found.  

 

I'm not being "lippy", I'm posting about this because I find it generally interesting.  

Do you really, really think that Parents who had murdered their own child wouldn't change their behaviour over a period of what 36-48 hours? Do you really think that they would sit down with a group of friends and say "Look, shit this, BUT, look Maddy was being a bit of pain and we smacked her and she died, so now, keep schtum like, let's pretend like there's nothing wrong. Let's keep going out to Dinner, say nowt and all will be Ok?" These aren't Mafia people, these are people on Holiday. People who aren't knowing of criminality and how to fuck the system.

Do you really, really think that the whole weight of the British Police would be fully behind them and effectively say, many, many times "we are looking for other people, NOT the parents?"

Of course not.

[Scooby Dudek]

She was my ex-Mrs first cousin. True story.

Talking about Susanna Hoffs in the past tense. What have you and your ex done to her ?

[Pureblood]

Do you really, really think that Parents who had murdered their own child wouldn't change their behaviour over a period of what 36-48 hours? Do you really think that they would sit down with a group of friends and say "Look, shit this, BUT, look Maddy was being a bit of pain and we smacked her and she died, so now, keep schtum like, let's pretend like there's nothing wrong. Let's keep going out to Dinner, say nowt and all will be Ok?" These aren't Mafia people, these are people on Holiday. People who aren't knowing of criminality and how to fuck the system.

Do you really, really think that the whole weight of the British Police would be fully behind them and effectively say, many, many times "we are looking for other people, NOT the parents?"

Of course not.

 

 

I don't think they murdered her - I think she died in their care.

 

I think that if she was abducted, their witness statements would be accurate, consistent and would tally both with themselves and each other's over time, but this is not the case.  Their recollection of events that night changes over the course of the several witness statements they made and information given in other on the record interviews (with the media etc.), it changes over time and the statements have inconsistencies when compared against each other and the rest of the tapas seven.  

 

It is not surprising that they were made arguidos given the high number of inconsistencies in their statements.  Against this backdrop you then have Kate refusing to answer 48 questions when being interviewed under caution.  

 

Now that I've answered your question about why I don't think there was an abduction, why do you think there was one?

[The Midnight Rambler]

Seems strange that the 'abductor' took Madeline, when her two younger twin brothers were in the same room? You'd get more for your money with a boy on the child exploitation market, from what I've been told?

Odd that Interpol turned up before the local police arrived?

Who the fuck thinks to ring Max Clifford 30 minutes after she goes missing?

[The Midnight Rambler]

If there is one single bit of evidence that convinces me there wasn't an abduction, it is the McCanns changing their witness statement about the shutters being jemmied/forced open.  They later said that the so-called abductor entered through the apartment front doors, which were unlocked.  

 

 

From previous experience it's fucking impossible to open those shutters, even if you're Geoff Capes.

[Scooby Dudek]

I have never gotten this, leaving the kids on their own is neglect angle. 

Being mid forties I was (un)fortunate enough to spend my early summer holidays with my parents at various Pontins' sites. Every evening the parents would go on the piss (I once saw Bob Monkhouse live and Googie the Liverpool duck) in the on site clubs and leave all their children in the chalets on their own.  A few Blue coats (Pontin staff) would spend the evening walking around the site listening for babies crying. If they heard anything an announcement would be made over the tannoy giving chalet number of baby crying, so drunken parents could go and sort it out. All perfectly normal and acceptable at the time. 

 

Knowing someone who worked in the McCann resort, this was the child checking service they also ran there, but the McCanns chose not to pay for it. The fact the resort ran that service, indicates to me that it was normal practice for the parents to go for a meal whilst their offspring were in bed, with staff walking around the resort. Again, apparently all perfectly normal and acceptable. 

[Winston Wolf]

I don't think they murdered her - I think she died in their care.

 

I think that if she was abducted, their witness statements would be accurate, consistent and would tally both with themselves and each other's over time, but this is not the case.  Their recollection of events that night changes over the course of the several witness statements they made and information given in other on the record interviews (with the media etc.), it changes over time and the statements have inconsistencies when compared against each other and the rest of the tapas seven.  

 

It is not surprising that they were made arguidos given the high number of inconsistencies in their statements.  Against this backdrop you then have Kate refusing to answer 48 questions when being interviewed under caution.  

Of course they were made Arguidos. Which parents in any missing/abduction/potential murder/disapearance case aren't made suspects?

As you well know, the last person to see any missing person is always the main suspect.

The rest is circumstance. Since when have eyewitnesses who don't have a reason to commit fact to memory been reliable?

There isn't any evidence at all.

Ah yeah, but the window, I'm sure it was shut, or open, or nearly open, or was that yesterday? Or the day before? Now you come to mention it, I didn't see Madelaine yesterday, she was playing in the pool on Tuesday, or was in Monday, actually, I'm not sure, it could've been earlier.

Until the body is found, which will be nearby, and any proof can be found that they did it, which there isn't, it's all a case of "her eyes are too close together and I don't like the way she wore that white t shirt in that interview."