Israel - A Rant

[Red Phoenix]

19 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Why would you guess ‘false flag’? Seems to be quite a strange conclusion to jump to. 

 

The timing of it. No rockets had hit Tel Aviv since 2014, yet we saw two rocket attacks recently that caused Israel to hit Gaza with around 100 strikes, and now it's happened again. We're supposed to believe Hamas would launch rockets knowing that bombing Gaza could help Netanyahu's election chances? I think it's total bullshit. Hamas would have to be unbelievably stupid to choose now as a good time to do this.

 

I'm not saying any time is a good time to launch rockets either. I get that launching rockets is to many of us a stupid idea, but we're not spending our lives living under apartheid like conditions in an open air prison and getting picked off by a fascist government like they are doing so I guess we don't really share the same outlook. Even with that said though, I still don't think they'd be this stupid.

 

How hard would it be for the Israeli gov to have someone launch a few rockets from inside Gaza to start off a bombing campaign? Probably not that hard, so with the added timing of this I'd not be surprised at all if that's what's happened.

[Strontium]

41 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Why would you guess ‘false flag’? Seems to be quite a strange conclusion to jump to. 

 

NV, meet Red Phoenix.

[Numero Veinticinco]

26 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Hamas would have to be unbelievably stupid

Ah. Yes. That's a real thing. 

 

30 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Probably not that hard, so with the added timing of this I'd not be surprised at all if that's what's happened.

It probably wasn't that hard for it to be a lot of things, mate. It'd be terribly flawed logic to attribute it to those things, though. For those extraordinary claims there would have to be at least a fart in the wind as a sniff of evidence for me to even consider it. 

[Jairzinho]

The situation is surely a long, long way beyond any need for false flags?

[Red Phoenix]

10 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

NV, meet Red Phoenix.

 

If you think that Israel bombing a load of Muslims to send a load of right wingers into a frenzy just before an election is a coincidence, that's your own view and fair enough. 5 years since rockets last hit Tel Aviv and they just happen to start up again now. I'm just gonna think otherwise. I'd guess there's some journos that might share the same ideas, but of course they'd just get piled on so best to keep quiet and stay in their boxes.

 

All you have to do to see how fucked up we are as a species is look at the state of Gaza, it's fucking unbelievable that this has gone on year after year yet the world's "leaders" have managed to do fuck all about it. It's truly sick.

[Red Phoenix]

3 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Ah. Yes. That's a real thing. 

 

It probably wasn't that hard for it to be a lot of things, mate. It'd be terribly flawed logic to attribute it to those things, though. For those extraordinary claims there would have to be at least a fart in the wind as a sniff of evidence for me to even consider it. 

 

I wasn't expecting anyone to agree with me, just saying what I thought.

 

2 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

The situation is surely a long, long way beyond any need for false flags?

 

Sorry not sure what you mean. You're saying they wouldn't need to do it, just bomb Gaza anyway or wait for a normal rocket attack and then bomb?

 

I'm not saying this isn't a normal rocket attack, just that I don't think it is personally.

[Red Phoenix]

If there's another thing that really winds me up it's fucking politicians saying shit like "I support a two-state solution and more dialogue." How original. It's the same old shit repeated over and over again, yet what changes?

[Numero Veinticinco]

19 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

I wasn't expecting anyone to agree with me, just saying what I thought.

That's fair enough, mate. I was just replying with my own view on it. It's hard to put stuff like that on them, and it's not like there's not enough legit verifiable stuff to keep people occupied. 

[Red Phoenix]

44 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

That's fair enough, mate. I was just replying with my own view on it. It's hard to put stuff like that on them, and it's not like there's not enough legit verifiable stuff to keep people occupied. 

 

I get that maybe it's just me going over the top. When Gaza starts getting attacked or when it's about to be attacked I often flip out a bit. Knowing that the place is about to have bombs raining down on it but there's fuck all that can be done makes me feel ill.

[Dr Nowt]

1 hour ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

...to keep people occupied. 

Arf.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

I reckon the rocket likely was launched from Gaza by Hamas or one of the Islamist groups based there. 

 

But, on RP, he's not the only person to be cynical. Let's not forget that social media is full of apartheid appeasers and advocates who play down the Israeli shooting slaughters and instantly label any video footage as professionally produced propaganda, rather than actual real time footage. 

 

One thing is certain. If there is a response, it'll likely be disproportionate and will likely involve even more unpunished war crimes. 

 

Operation Get Bibi Elected. 

[SammyAftershave]

Don't worry, Kushner has got this.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Mad that 6 people getting injured is getting more news attention than the Palestinian protesters murdered over the past few weeks. 

 

They did mention that the family dogs died in the rocket attack though. Complete with newsreader sad face. 

 

There you have it. Palestinian citizens. Less than dogs. 

 

Sickening. 

[SammyAftershave]

Why, Pompeo was only there last week telling people that it is quite likely that Trump has been sent by God to save Israel. Could this be misinterpreted as an act of Dog?

[SasaS]

23 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

I reckon the rocket likely was launched from Gaza by Hamas or one of the Islamist groups based there. 

 

But, on RP, he's not the only person to be cynical. Let's not forget that social media is full of apartheid appeasers and advocates who play down the Israeli shooting slaughters and instantly label any video footage as professionally produced propaganda, rather than actual real time footage. 

 

One thing is certain. If there is a response, it'll likely be disproportionate and will likely involve even more unpunished war crimes. 

 

Operation Get Bibi Elected. 

Almost as if Hamas or one of the Islamist groups think it's a good thing.

[Numero Veinticinco]

26 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

I reckon the rocket likely was launched from Gaza by Hamas or one of the Islamist groups based there. 

 

But, on RP, he's not the only person to be cynical. Let's not forget that social media is full of apartheid appeasers and advocates who play down the Israeli shooting slaughters and instantly label any video footage as professionally produced propaganda, rather than actual real time footage. 

 

One thing is certain. If there is a response, it'll likely be disproportionate and will likely involve even more unpunished war crimes. 

 

Operation Get Bibi Elected. 

I don't see the connection between the two things.

[Strontium]

51 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

Mad that 6 people getting injured is getting more news attention than the Palestinian protesters murdered over the past few weeks.

 

In much the same way you've been silent about Hamas murdering Palestinian protesters over this last week.

[Numero Veinticinco]

1 minute ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

In much the same way you've been silent about Hamas murdering Palestinian protesters over this last week.

No, not in the same way because the news reporting media have a different obligation to report the news than a poster on a fucking football forum.

[Strontium]

Just now, Numero Veinticinco said:

No, not in the same way because the news reporting media have a different obligation to report the news than a poster on a fucking football forum.

 

Someone with an agenda is someone with an agenda, whoever they are.

[Numero Veinticinco]

Just now, Strontium Dog said:

 

Someone with an agenda is someone with an agenda, whoever they are.

Are you suggesting that his agenda is pro-Hamas and anti-Palestinian protester? You're a strange one, Stronts. Agenda is right. 

[Strontium]

Just now, Numero Veinticinco said:

Are you suggesting that his agenda is pro-Hamas and anti-Palestinian protester? You're a strange one, Stronts. Agenda is right. 

 

I can only guess at what his agenda is. But if he's going to ignore Palestinian protesters being killed by Hamas and only mention Palestinian protesters killed by Israel, then neutral observers are entitled to draw their own conclusions.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

People can draw conclusions from constant whataboutery as well. 

 

And from people being "critical" of Israel in a pathetic, weak mannered way whenever they slaughter Arab, Muslim civilians. 

 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

But, if somebody wants to start a "Hamas - a rant" thread, I won't be offended by it. Promise. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

Just now, Strontium Dog said:

 

I can only guess at what his agenda is. But if he's going to ignore Palestinian protesters being killed by Hamas and only mention Palestinian protesters killed by Israel, then neutral observers are entitled to draw their own conclusions.

You are not, by any stretch of the imagination, a neutral observer. Judging by the obtuse slight of hand you just tried by likening his mentioning of something he possibly knew little about, probably wouldn't have had supported, and probably would have mentioned relentlessly if he did, with that of those paid to report the news, you're about as neutral he is. Which isn't much. 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

21 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Are you suggesting that his agenda is pro-Hamas and anti-Palestinian protester? You're a strange one, Stronts. Agenda is right. 

We all know what agenda he's suggesting. 

 

Is it cos I is antiseptic? WOLF! WOLF!

 

Yawn....