Roy Hodgson Mega Thread: The Sequel

[Juan Galonso]

Weren't they asked about the current managerial appointment?

 

That is too much power for any player.

 

Weren't they consulted over the new manager when Rafa took over as well? Didnt seem to bother anybody back then.

[goatboy59]

Weren't they asked about the current managerial appointment?

 

That is too much power for any player.

 

And also in 2004. Rafa was Carra's choice.

 

Damn your swift fingers, Galonso!

[Antynwa]

Weren't they asked about the current managerial appointment?

 

That is too much power for any player.

 

I'd imagine they where.

 

Was Torres asked the same question?

[waiting game]

Roy is at the Wigan game with Damien. Strange. Heartsank to see him there.

[Iantn]

Weren't they consulted over the new manager when Rafa took over as well? Didnt seem to bother anybody back then.

 

And also in 2004. Rafa was Carra's choice.

 

Damn your swift fingers, Galonso!

 

It was wrong then, just as it was now and just like it will be in the future.

 

 

I'd imagine they where.

 

Was Torres asked the same question?

 

I'd highly doubt Torres would have picked Hodgson but I dunno if he was. Still be wrong if he was.

[The Dude Abides]

Carragher isn't a liability, the past month or so has proved that. We need him.

 

Proven?

 

Go on.

 

Anyway, if Carra does have, or had too much power, than he can't really be blamed for it. Blame the pally, slimy CEO. Hopefully those days are past us now and Carra will just have to adjust.

[Antynwa]

Proven?

 

Go on.

 

We've been defensively shit and have conceded from set pieces.

 

We need a leader, and someone who can organise the defence.

[goatboy59]

We won't be going back to the manager 'cult' with Comolli there.

 

Hodgson was a whole bucket of weak-arse wrongness, but something in-between might work.

 

Don't see what's wrong with consultation. Shankly ruled Anfield strongly enough but still had men like Fagen Paisley Moran and Bennett to listen to.

 

When did 100% Power suddenly become the done thing?

[Antynwa]

 

 

 

I'd highly doubt Torres would have picked Hodgson but I dunno if he was. Still be wrong if he was.

 

The reason why I mention Torres is that, why would they take Carra's word over Torres, when Torres is clearly our biggest asset financially and as a player?

 

I think Torres wanted Rafa gone, he just didn't mention a replacement.

 

Also. If Carra turned around and said 'I still want Rafa' Does anyone honestly think that would have saved his job?

 

Rafa was going the moment Broughton walked in IMO

[Bobby Hundreds]

I just have this horrible feeling Roy will be here for the rest of the season.

[King Emlyn]

And also in 2004. Rafa was Carra's choice.

 

Damn your swift fingers, Galonso!

Old ground, players will pick whoever they feel will be best for them personally. I shouldn't imagine many would choose what is best for the club and not necessarily for themselves. Asking a player what manager they feel would be a good appointment is all a bit pythonesque if you ask me.

[King Emlyn]

We've been defensively shit and have conceded from set pieces.

 

We need a leader, and someone who can organise the defence.

BEEN??????

[The Dude Abides]

You still buy into all that shite? Organise the defence? Is that what he's been doing? Well, we've been shit, and conceding from set pieces all season long, with him in the team or out. Explain that.

 

Think the reasoning now that Carra still warrants an automatic starting position are becoming quite desperate.

[Wee-bey]

Roy is at the Wigan game with Damien. Strange. Heartsank to see him there.

 

Newcastle's next manager awaits.

[King Emlyn]

I just have this horrible feeling Roy will be here for the rest of the season.

Aye, it is worrying i have to say. As i've already posted today, if Wolves and the aftermath didn't see him off then i'm struggling to think of what will.

[stringvest]

Weren't they asked about the current managerial appointment?

 

That is too much power for any player.

 

Christ knows what you might have said if you were around when Kenny was appointed then. Or Joe Fagan for that matter. Because that's precisely what happened then.

[Iantn]

The reason why I mention Torres is that, why would they take Carra's word over Torres, when Torres is clearly our biggest asset financially and as a player?

 

I think Torres wanted Rafa gone, he just didn't mention a replacement.

 

Also. If Carra turned around and said 'I still want Rafa' Does anyone honestly think that would have saved his job?

 

Rafa was going the moment Broughton walked in IMO

 

For me, Torres has always been about being competitive and challenging for things. Gerrard seems to like being centre mid nearly as much.

 

Then again that's probably me being arlarse on Gerrard because he generally pisses me off.

 

No player should have anything to do with whether a manager goes or who is appointed. Players are paid a fuckin' good whack to play the game not for their expertise in judging things.

 

I don't really care whether any of them liked Rafa or not. In the same way I don't really care about whether any of them like Hodgson or not. Their role is to play. If we get back to that then we'd be looking forward into a good future.

[Antynwa]

Why isn't Torres not getting as much shit as Carra then?

[Iantn]

Christ knows what you might have said if you were around when Kenny was appointed then. Or Joe Fagan for that matter. Because that's precisely what happened then.

 

Just because it works some times doesn't mean that it works as a rule.

[Iantn]

Why isn't Torres not getting as much shit as Carra then?

 

I think the reasoning is pretty obvious in that Torres is less likely to have wanted Hodgson here. Whether or not either of them wanted the previous manager gone or whether or not either of them was actually asked regarding him.

[Antynwa]

For me, Torres has always been about being competitive and challenging for things. Gerrard seems to like being centre mid nearly as much.

 

Then again that's probably me being arlarse on Gerrard because he generally pisses me off.

 

No player should have anything to do with whether a manager goes or who is appointed. Players are paid a fuckin' good whack to play the game not for their expertise in judging things.

 

I don't really care whether any of them liked Rafa or not. In the same way I don't really care about whether any of them like Hodgson or not. Their role is to play. If we get back to that then we'd be looking forward into a good future.

 

They are fair points.

 

But why would Carragher's reasons for wanting Rafa out be any less valid than that of Torres'. If indeed either/or aired their views.

[goatboy59]

Old ground, players will pick whoever they feel will be best for them personally. I shouldn't imagine many would choose what is best for the club and not necessarily for themselves. Asking a player what manager they feel would be a good appointment is all a bit pythonesque if you ask me.

 

Valencia were so efficient and well drilled that I doubt anyone thought Rafa would give them an easy time.

[Delmar]

We won't be going back to the manager 'cult' with Comolli there.

 

Hodgson was a whole bucket of weak-arse wrongness, but something in-between might work.

 

Don't see what's wrong with consultation. Shankly ruled Anfield strongly enough but still had men like Fagen Paisley Moran and Bennett to listen to.

 

When did 100% Power suddenly become the done thing?

 

100% power is not what would be good, or what would have been good before (downfall of Benitez), it just corrupts. But you name names there, how many were players?

[King Emlyn]

Valencia were so efficient and well drilled that I doubt anyone thought Rafa would give them an easy time.

Maybe so, i just think it's a daft idea wide open to self interest.

[Antynwa]

I think the reasoning is pretty obvious in that Torres is less likely to have wanted Hodgson here. Whether or not either of them wanted the previous manager gone or whether or not either of them was actually asked regarding him.

 

How is Torres less likely to have wanted Hodgson here. Afterall Torres is still here, is he not?

 

I don't even know if Carra wanted Hodgson, I guess he wanted Rafa out, but there is no evidence to suggest he wanted Roy in. Only those who think there was a 'Keep it English' conspiracy.

 

Anybody remember that mass exodus that occured in the summer? If I was betting on it, I'd say that the vast majority of that squad wanted Rafa out.

 

As for wanting Roy in. Personally I think the local lads wanted Kenny. I don't know how far Torres' input went, but if it was anything like his performance this season, he either didn't care or just left it to somebody else.