Anyone else sick of the England moaning?

[Rashid]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7094812.stm

 

Now Gerrard is in on it... I am all for young players given a chance and home grown players getting in quotas is just fucked up and clutching at straws.

 

The day the English coaches start concentrating on playing football and not how big and athletic a player is, is the day England starts to compete.

 

The current team is much lauded as the best bunch ever so why are they so shit collectively?

[Ted]

Pennant and Crouch not English anymore then?

[philyhamann]

It will only happen if it happens in every other country, in my opinion anyway.

[Glen C]

I don't see it as a bad thing personally...but i guess i'm in the minority. Why shouldn't every club have a percentage of home grown players in their team?

[Section_31]

ha ha yeah, let's fuck off Torres and get Alan smith in.

 

Social darwinism, if they're good enough they'll make it, if they're not then they should find another career, "selling stockings door to door"

[Red '84]

have a look around and in fairness, how many of the homegrown players would we really like in our team. im not talking just about ability, how many players do we see coming thru who have character and leadership.

[The Virgin]

Re: The current team is much lauded as the best bunch ever so why are they so shit collectively?

 

Cos the manager is shit!

 

The manager is shit, so Enger-land don't qualify so everyone gets on the quota bandwagon when it wouldn't exist if the manager wasn't SHIT!

 

PS Did I say the manager was SHIT!!!:wallbutt:

[Red Sun Rising]

Anyone else sick of the England threads?

[The Virgin]

If our captain didn't get sucked into the press bollocks, there wouldn't be a need to have England threads!!!

[t1971]

I don't see it as a bad thing personally...but i guess i'm in the minority. Why shouldn't every club have a percentage of home grown players in their team?

 

Why should they? All clubs want the best players they can get. If the English kids arent good enough or are too expensive, you should take them on instead of foreign players anyway??

 

As a football fan, It doesnt matter to me where they are from.

[Bellflower]

If the UK has become the fat man of Europe how many kids in future will even be fit enough to play ?...................

[Guest Jay W]

Stevies going a bit nuts there saying foriegners will take over. It's not an invasion. If english lads are good enough, they'll play. You should be more worried about the standard of coaching in this country and lack of discipline young lads have now to make it.

[Anubis]

This all smacks of getting your excuses in early. If they don't qulaify, and the Scots do, then the media feeding-frenzy is going to be highly amusing.

[Red Sun Rising]

Stevies going a bit nuts there saying foriegners will take over. It's not an invasion. If english lads are good enough, they'll play. You should be more worried about the standard of coaching in this country and lack of discipline young lads have now to make it.

 

Can't find it right now but I read somewhere today that the minimum age for player registration in Europe is 18, except England , where it is 16, hence the English clubs sucking up the teenage talent ahead of their continental competition.

 

Not sure if that is true but it would suggest that a 16 year English kid has a lot more competition for a place at an English club than a 16 year old Spanish kid at a Spanish club.

[silverlining]

Can't find it right now but I read somewhere today that the minimum age for player registration in Europe is 18, except England , where it is 16, hence the English clubs sucking up the teenage talent ahead of their continental competition.

 

Not sure if that is true but it would suggest that a 16 year English kid has a lot more competition for a place at an English club than a 16 year old Spanish kid at a Spanish club.

 

I think that sounds right, yeah. It's why Barca et al keep BOOHOOHOO'ing about Wenger, Ferguson and Benitez nicking all their young stars.

[bigmacbrownie]

I read an interesting article in the Mail today and I think this article has more of a bearing on the current situation with foreign players being brought in.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/columnists/columnists.html?in_article_id=493474&in_page_id=1951

[Salte]

Anyone else sick of the England threads?

No.

And if I were I'd simply stop reading them.

[Red Sun Rising]

No.

And if I were I'd simply stop reading them.

 

Yikes, consider me told!

[silverlining]

Yikes, consider me told!

 

He's very stern isn't he?

 

Reminds me of my old music teacher at school. He was very stern. And bent.

[bigmacbrownie]

He's very stern isn't he?

 

Reminds me of my old music teacher at school. He was very stern. And bent.

 

Did he try to bum you?

[silverlining]

Did he try to bum you?

 

No, I avoided his special summer holidays camping abroad trips.

[crouchaholic]

Limits on foreign players is probably not legal according to EU employment rules (I think). If so, it would only work if the clubs actually made an agreement. I don't think the FA can force the issue through.

[Strontium]

If foreign players are the problem, why have England been shit for the last 35 years? This isn't a recent slump.

[robslappa]

It wasn't long ago Gerrard was saying Rafa was right to bring young foreign kids to the club as the local lads weren't good enough.

[Hermes]

We failed to qualify for the World Cup in 1974 and 1978, failed to qualify for the European Championships in 1972 and 1976 (albeit only 4 teams could qualify then). These failures occurred at a time when there were virtually no foreigners in the English league, despite that English teams won more European trophies than any other country in that period.

 

If a player is good enough to play regularly in the England team he will play for his club side.