Israel - A Rant

[Jurgen Knows]

“… and of course the campaign starts and before you know it, he is labelled, and he’s an anti-semite, because that’s what we SAY he is, and that’s one stain you cannot wash. It shames me as a Jew to tell you that …”

 

 

 

[Jurgen Knows]

Meanwhile, in the land of democracy and freedom of speech:

 

 

[Gnasher]

The pain on this child's face should shame the west and especially our politicians. We've lost all sense of humanity. We may never be forgiven. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

More barbarity from the murderous scum. 

 

That Ben Gvir Nazi has been in the press calling him a “12 year old terrorist.”
 

 

[Jurgen Knows]

Sick and rotten to the bone.

 

 

[Paulie Dangerously]

Much like every conflict, this is slowly fading from the front page meaning the atrocities go on unchallenged and largely unreported by the mainstream news. 

[Jurgen Knows]

Well said by PM Ibrahim.

 

 

[Carradona]

On 12/03/2024 at 18:58, Bjornebye said:

I can’t help thinking they could have had a different band name 

Why?

[TheHowieLama]

3 hours ago, Paulie Dangerously said:

Much like every conflict, this is slowly fading from the front page meaning the atrocities go on unchallenged and largely unreported by the mainstream news. 

 

It is by far the most transparent and reported on conflict in history. It's not even close.

 

Understandable to want to believe that as the alternative is far more troubling. 

[Pidge]

12 hours ago, Nelly-Szoboszlai said:

More barbarity from the murderous scum. 

 

That Ben Gvir Nazi has been in the press calling him a “12 year old terrorist.”
 

 

As much as I hate having to say this, as it will probably appear like some dampening of disgust at these atrocities (even though that's not my view at all, still very much disgusted and ashamed by this despicable ethnic cleansing), regardless of all of that, he's not a nazi, is he? On what factual level is he a national socialist? Fascist? Maybe. Apologist authoritarian? Sure.

 

He's not a nazi though, there's only one reason why you have chosen that term and it's to try and get a rise out of certain people (and that only really will work for one specific, pretty hateful reason). Not really needed, is it?

[Jairzinho]

3 minutes ago, Pidge said:

As much as I hate having to say this, as it will probably appear like some dampening of disgust at these atrocities (even though that's not my view at all, still very much disgusted and ashamed by this despicable ethnic cleansing), regardless of all of that, he's not a nazi, is he? On what factual level is he a national socialist? Fascist? Maybe. Apologist authoritarian? Sure.

 

He's not a nazi though, there's only one reason why you have chosen that term and it's to try and get a rise out of certain people (and that only really will work for one specific, pretty hateful reason). Not really needed, is it?

 

 

 

Not maybe regarding "fascist". He represents a Jewish supremacist fascist party.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

44 minutes ago, Pidge said:

As much as I hate having to say this, as it will probably appear like some dampening of disgust at these atrocities (even though that's not my view at all, still very much disgusted and ashamed by this despicable ethnic cleansing), regardless of all of that, he's not a nazi, is he? On what factual level is he a national socialist? Fascist? Maybe. Apologist authoritarian? Sure.

 

He's not a nazi though, there's only one reason why you have chosen that term and it's to try and get a rise out of certain people (and that only really will work for one specific, pretty hateful reason). Not really needed, is it?

He's a poisonous right wing nationalist who’d likely be out there doing some slaughtering himself, if he was allowed. He’s a violent, racist fascist. 
 

He’s pretty much as close to a Nazi as we’d see in contemporary times. 

[Pidge]

26 minutes ago, Nelly-Szoboszlai said:

He's a poisonous right wing nationalist who’d likely be out there doing some slaughtering himself, if he was allowed. He’s a violent, racist fascist. 
 

He’s pretty much as close to a Nazi as we’d see in contemporary times. 

Grand, fair to say I don't know nearly enough about him, but he's not a nazi. It's not helpful to anyone else to say otherwise, and it's not harmful to him.

[TheHowieLama]

44 minutes ago, Nelly-Szoboszlai said:

He’s pretty much as close to a Nazi as we’d see in contemporary times. 

 

Without getting into the weeds - a Nazi (which is a shortened version of a German political party) believes centrally in the superiority of the Aryan race, along with the fascisty stuff, but never without it.

 

 

 

[Jairzinho]

1 hour ago, Pidge said:

Grand, fair to say I don't know nearly enough about him, but he's not a nazi. It's not helpful to anyone else to say otherwise, and it's not harmful to him.

 

Aye, that's true. 

[Gnasher]

2 hours ago, TheHowieLama said:

 

It is by far the most transparent and reported on conflict in history. It's not even close.

 

Understandable to want to believe that as the alternative is far more troubling. 

 

Who's done the reporting? And who in your opinion has been "transparent? 

[Bjornebye]

4 hours ago, Carradona said:

Why?

Because they’re actually good and Kneecap with balaclavas on reduces their audience. They should be called “Up The Fucking Provos” 

 

See Dropkick Murphy’s 

 

Before you start, I love them 

[Bjornebye]

4 hours ago, TheHowieLama said:

 

It is by far the most transparent and reported on conflict in history. It's not even close.

 

Understandable to want to believe that as the alternative is far more troubling. 

Are you taking the piss here? If it wasn’t for social media nobody would know what’s happening in real life. 
 

The media are terrified to properly report what’s happening. I don’t know what the news on the US is saying but in the UK you’d think it was just a small battle and Kate Middleton has got a goatee. 
 

I also know that in Tel Aviv, Israeli media aren’t allowing any reports from Gaza and instead keep blaring sirens so everyone thinks Hamas are coming. 
 

Transparent? No war is transparent. It just depends on where you live on what information about it you receive. 

[Arniepie]

4 hours ago, TheHowieLama said:

 

It is by far the most transparent and reported on conflict in history. It's not even close.

 

Understandable to want to believe that as the alternative is far more troubling. 

id agree with the reported but  transparent?

if russia were doing,what israel had done,there would be world wide outrage.

[TheHowieLama]

You've answered your own question here with " if Russia had done..."

 

Point being Israel has been caught out and that is being acknowledged by individuals and gubmints. Quickly enough is a different discussion.

 

@Bjornebye "If it wasn’t for social media nobody would know what’s happening in real life. "
 

Awesome quote here no matter the context these days. Would make a great T shirt.

 

Social media plays a huge part in the way people get their news today - certainly the largest contributor on any/every subject.

There are and have been thousands of first hand accounts everyday in real time in this conflict. It is not comparable to any other war in history from a media coverage standpoint.

[Gnasher]

2 hours ago, Gnasher said:

 

Who's done the reporting? And who in your opinion has been "transparent? 

 

Any chance of an answer? 

[Gnasher]

The tide has gone out on those complicit in this genocide. The former American Ambassadors summation below is damning. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Those whos silence makes them complicit in the above are deserving of contempt. As with those who propped up apartheid S. Africa history will not be kind on them. Especially when the full account of atrocities see the light of day. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Bjornebye]

51 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

You've answered your own question here with " if Russia had done..."

 

Point being Israel has been caught out and that is being acknowledged by individuals and gubmints. Quickly enough is a different discussion.

 

@Bjornebye "If it wasn’t for social media nobody would know what’s happening in real life. "
 

Awesome quote here no matter the context these days. Would make a great T shirt.

 

Social media plays a huge part in the way people get their news today - certainly the largest contributor on any/every subject.

There are and have been thousands of first hand accounts everyday in real time in this conflict. It is not comparable to any other war in history from a media coverage standpoint.

Not everyone gets their daily intake from social media. 

[Gnasher]

5 hours ago, TheHowieLama said:

 

It is by far the most transparent and reported on conflict in history. It's not even close.

 

Understandable to want to believe that as the alternative is far more troubling. 

 

 

Doesn't look very "transparent" to me. 

 

 

https://pressgazette.co.uk/news/gaza-journalists-foreign-correspondents-israel-egypt-access/

 

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68423995

 

 

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/02/gaza-un-experts-condemn-killing-and-silencing-journalists

 

 

 

[Gnasher]

A perfect example of another Westminster politician willing to make an absolute fool of himself to defend the indefensible.