Paris shootings

[cloggypop]

As soon as the news broke you went straight into Muslim mode.

Rubbing his hands like Rafa.

 

At least we didn't get a wonderful this time.

[Lee909]

Religion is the excuse invented or adopted to justify their views.

 

Can't fathom why we exist? - invent a God - and now there's a justification for our existence.

Can't fathom why we hate homosexuality or look down on women? - invent a religious code that says 'it's not us, it's God who says so!'

 

Thousands of years later, yes things have moved on, but people are still finding those excuses via religion. But it's not only religion.

Women shouldn't be in the army - because they're not fit enough

Homosexuals shouldn't be in the army - because they're sexuality attracted and will compromise safety

 

If it's not in a bible, there's plenty of other excuses...

 

It's cruel to test on animals, so we'll blow up your lab.

Travellers are scumbags - because they life a very different lifestyle.

Blacks are clearly one step up from monkeys - so we'll just trade them as slaves.

 

Ignorance doesn't need religion.

You have offended me you prick. This means war

[Hand Shandy]

So what do those who blame religion for all the world's ills propose as a solution?

[Lee909]

In fact you are all cunts.

Im gathering some drones

Expect my drones to put shit through your letter boxes this week

[Lee909]

So what do those who blame religion for all the world's ills propose as a solution?

You can all believe in The Flash if you like. Ill be your God

[AngryOfTuebrook]

You can all believe in The Flash if you like. Ill be your God

You already are, mate.

 

You already are.

[Moo]

Would they fuck! People are told gay people are wrong in a book, the books hammered into them from birth, they hate gays. Without the book people wouldn't give a flying bollock. What about drawings, people are killed over fucking drawings. Jesus Christ it's like you'd rather cut your cock off than admit it.

rico1304, you yourself mentioned the Nazis at one point so it's clear you're aware of their existence.

What religion were they hiding behind in order to justify their evil acts?

[Red Phoenix]

So what do those who blame religion for all the world's ills propose as a solution?

 

EVIDENCE BASED SCIENCE.

[Hand Shandy]

EVIDENCE BASED SCIENCE.

Fine by me, but what do you do with the billions of people who follow said religions?

[dennis tooth]

So what do those who blame religion for all the world's ills propose as a solution?

It's basically claiming the book did it and us mere men cannot do anything about it.

It's nihilism.

Maybe that religion free utopia of Russian communism is their solution maybr that's why they keep quiet about any solution.

It's false knowledge and it has no value going forward apart from Rico and as having an ego jizz all down the pages of the thread with every attack. And its upto us to unstick the pages unsavoury as that is.

[Red Phoenix]

Fine by me, but what do you do with the billions of people who follow said religions?

 

The priesthood of technocracy will find use for them, don't worry.

[dennis tooth]

EVIDENCE BASED SCIENCE.

Except quantum physics which is a tad more murky.

And all the other theoretic based sciences.

In fact mainstream science says nothing's real. Retreat.

[Jairzinho]

Fine by me, but what do you do with the billions of people who follow said religions?

 

Bombs away.

[Hades]

Bruno Guigue

Arret sur Info

President Hollande, after this terrorist attack that has rocked our country, you addressed the nation with emotion and dignity, expressing your compassion for the victims. We assume you have been well informed as you were able to immediately point the finger of blame at the perpetrators and you called upon France to display unity and solidarity against the “islamist terrorism”. You called upon us to close ranks and to harness all our energies in confronting this terrible threat.

But this entirely legitimate call for national cohesion, when our country is feeling so vulnerable, should not prohibit citizens from questioning your policies. From the day you were elected, you have claimed to be ceaselessly combatting terrorism. But in reality, you appear to be doing exactly the opposite.

Instead of combatting evil you have been focusing your efforts against those who are truly fighting it. You tell us you are fighting terrorism but you never cease your demonization of and campaign against Syria and Bashar al Assad.

You condemned this sovereign state to the horrors of the same criminals who open fire upon our cafes and restaurants, this sovereign state detested by your American-Zionist allies because it refuses to bow down to their diktat. The Jihadist mercenaries were looking for a target and you cynically gave them Damascus.

Yes, thousands of young people have been brainwashed by your war propaganda and persuaded to take up arms against this despised state that you dream of bombing into oblivion. It is your foreign affairs minister, Laurent Fabius who launched this mission when he declared that “Bashar al Assad does not deserve to live“ and that the Syrian Al Qaeda [Al Nusra Front] were doing a “good job” in Syria.

You can try to conceal your responsibility, but we all can see now how these attacks committed in France are a direct result of your failed foreign policy. Why are there no attacks in Italy, Argentina or Japan? Are the French being collectively punished for your refusal to co-operate with Syrian intelligence to identify the french jihadists and prevent their return to France?

Do our compatriots know that you expressly forbid the transfer of funds to the majority of the Syrian people living in government held areas inside Syria? Do they know that you have never once expressed your sorrow for the multitude of Syrian victims of Al Qaeda atrocities or that you persist in the imposition of sanctions upon these people enduring relentless mass terrorist attacks?

You decided to play a role in the Syrian conflict and you sugar-coated your involvement with humanitarian pretexts which are now collapsing like a house of cards, exuding the acrid stench of hydrocarbons. You have dragged France into a swamp which should have been avoided at all costs and you have exposed your people to a boomerang effect bringing with it, unimaginable devastation. You have brought home the violence that you and your neo-colonialist allies have unleashed.

Do you think the French will thank you especially once they have unraveled the truth of this dramatic event?

Mr Hollande, when the dust has settled on this drama, and the compassion photo-shoot is over, the patriotic unity celebrations finished, are you once more going to award medals to the bankrollers of terror? Overtly condemning terrorism while covertly entertaining its Saudi sponsors. The US has its Frankenstein in George W Bush, the sorcerer’s apprentice of geopolitical chaos. You are his equal – you are France’s own Frankenstein.

By affiliating France with a mafioso, manipulated, sectarian “rebellion”, thinking you were boxing clever while on the ropes, you have fed the monster that is now extending its tentacles into France. You allied yourself with DAESH while they were fighting Assad but condemned them after the first executions of westerners in Iraq. Thus you nourished resentment among these criminals from whom you seemed to expect greater understanding.

You have been advised by pseudo-experts whose intellectual independence is entirely dependent upon how much you pay them, so its impossible for you to extricate yourself from your errors without being overruled. Instead, you continue to throw dust in our eyes with the “State of Emergency” and to “windmill” your little arms. We are nine months away from the elections where, of course, you will try to manipulate the facts.

Your legacy will be the rotting fruit of your political ineptitude, the manifestation of your incompetence as a minister who confuses Saddam Hussein with Bashar al Assad, an absurdity that does not even raise a smile on this day of universal grief.

Interesting read. Think it might be time to put Rico and Strontium back on ignore again, the imperialist rhetoric and hypocrisy is hard to swallow.

[Rico1304]

It still checkmated your argument.

 

Man invented religion, not the other way around. The views expressed in religion are man made. The prejudices promoted by religion are man made.

Religion isn't the cause of conflict, religion is the product of it - a formalised justification for the beliefs people already hold.

There are other ways man chooses to justify his beliefs too - it's not limited to religion.

 

Your assertion that without religion, evildoers would have nothing to hide behind is incorrect.

Checkmated? It's the most pathetic 'argument' I've ever seen in my life. If you can't see it then you are truly stupid.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

Fine by me, but what do you do with the billions of people who follow said religions?

 

Our future of peace and tolerance will be built upon rooting out those who are intolerant and not tolerating them.

 

Progress.

[Hand Shandy]

Bombs away.

Including the US and us I assume?

[FanchesterCity]

Checkmated? It's the most pathetic 'argument' I've ever seen in my life. If you can't see it then you are truly stupid.

 

You claimed that the only reason people hated gays was because the bible told them so.

The bible was written by man, it extolled the beliefs already in mankind.

Religion is man made. Religion didn't put ideas in heads, the ideas were put into religion.

 

You sir, don't know when you're defeated.

 

As a little reminder - your words are below:

 

Would they fuck! People are told gay people are wrong in a book, the books hammered into them from birth, they hate gays. Without the book people wouldn't give a flying bollock.

 

[Hand Shandy]

Our future of peace and tolerance will be built upon rooting out those who are intolerant and not tolerating them.

 

Progress.

Ah, so you see the problem...

[Jairzinho]

Including the US and us I assume?

 

I think this intellectual, nuanced, expert opinion is the one we should go with -

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC5iP2LFsM0

[Rico1304]

You claimed that the only reason people hated gays was because the bible told them so.

The bible was written by man, it extolled the beliefs already in mankind.

Religion is man made. Religion didn't put ideas in heads, the ideas were put into religion.

 

You sir, don't know when you're defeated.

 

As a little reminder - your words are below:

I refuse to believe you are this thick, you wouldn't be able to function in society.

[Hand Shandy]

So no suggestions then?

 

Serious, viable, workable ones that is.

[Jairzinho]

So no suggestions then?

 

Serious, viable, workable ones that is.

 

How can they come up with suggestions when they haven't even attempted to identify the problem/s?

[Hand Shandy]

But they have identified the problem in their view. According to them, the problem is simply 'religion', presumably in all its forms.

 

So what is their solution?

[Jairzinho]

But they have identified the problem in their view. According to them, the problem is simply 'religion', presumably in all its forms.

 

So what is their solution?

 

Like I said...