FSG are not shit

[Cardie]

Indeed they have... how fortunate for them that they got the club for tupence hapenny and they will sell it for a billion quid... far more than they have pumped in!

 

You're going to be constantly disappointed, irrespective of who owns us, if you're hoping for an owner who will do things entirely for the good of the club and expect nothing back.

[Ginny]

You can't take what business owners like FSG do personal. They are in the business to make money. It could be a lot lot worse. They've built a new stand, brought klopp in, spunked loads of cash on players including Andy Carrol and other £25m players, lallana, lovren etc...

 

What more do you want our owners to do? apart from letting us see Linda more

[VladimirIlyich]

You can't take what business owners like FSG do personal. They are in the business to make money. It could be a lot lot worse. They've built a new stand, brought klopp in, spunked loads of cash on players including Andy Carrol and other £25m players, lallana, lovren etc...

 

What more do you want our owners to do? apart from letting us see more of Linda.

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[Thoth]

And what's the problem with this?

Nothing at all I was merely making the point that they have an ulterior motive.

[jimmycase]

Indeed they have... how fortunate for them that they got the club for tupence hapenny and they will sell it for a billion quid... far more than they have pumped in!

 

This is just bullshit. Please do your research before you spout shit. Peter Lim bid £10m more than FSG. Look at the carnage he has created at Valencia. He's sold off their best players and not replaced them and gone through 3 managers in roughly 12 months, one of which was gary neville!

 

The other bidder to buy the club was mill HEDGE FUND who were essentially trying to buy the club to cover their losses to gillet. How do you think a hedge fund would run LFC?

 

There were no other bidders. FSG got the club 'on the cheap' like any other party would because it was on the verge of going into administration with nearly £300m of debt.

 

£300m was the value of the club because it was a 'distressed' sale.

[Ginny]

I want Elon Musk to buy us. 

[stringvest]

I want Elon Musk to buy us. 

 

 

no chance - we've already got a team that normally runs out of juice after 60 minutes.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

This is just bullshit. Please do your research before you spout shit. Peter Lim bid £10m more than FSG. Look at the carnage he has created at Valencia. He's sold off their best players and not replaced them and gone through 3 managers in roughly 12 months, one of which was gary neville!

 

The other bidder to buy the club was mill HEDGE FUND who were essentially trying to buy the club to cover their losses to gillet. How do you think a hedge fund would run LFC?

 

There were no other bidders. FSG got the club 'on the cheap' like any other party would because it was on the verge of going into administration with nearly £300m of debt.

 

£300m was the value of the club because it was a 'distressed' sale.

 

As a privet enterprise?

[Ginny]

I though hedge funds took over companies, increased their value then sold them on?

[stringvest]

As a privet enterprise?

 

 

that's bordering on the criminal

[Thoth]

This is just bullshit. Please do your research before you spout shit. Peter Lim bid £10m more than FSG. Look at the carnage he has created at Valencia. He's sold off their best players and not replaced them and gone through 3 managers in roughly 12 months, one of which was gary neville!

 

The other bidder to buy the club was mill HEDGE FUND who were essentially trying to buy the club to cover their losses to gillet. How do you think a hedge fund would run LFC?

 

There were no other bidders. FSG got the club 'on the cheap' like any other party would because it was on the verge of going into administration with nearly £300m of debt.

 

£300m was the value of the club because it was a 'distressed' sale.

Soooooo basically you are saying they bought us cheap because we were in debt and it was a distressed sale and they will sell us for a profit when they leave.. pretty sure that's what I said.. oh and we are all entitled to an opinion .. as someone once said opinions are like arseoles everyone has one and no one likes other peoples.

[jimmycase]

Soooooo basically you are saying they bought us cheap because we were in debt and it was a distressed sale and they will sell us for a profit when they leave.. pretty sure that's what I said.. oh and we are all entitled to an opinion .. as someone once said opinions are like arseoles everyone has one and no one likes other peoples.

 

Nope. Im saying the club wasnt worth more because it was a distressed sale with massive debts.

 

Just like when you buy bankrupt stock, its always cheaper. Same when you buy a repossed house, its always cheaper than the same house if not repossessed.

 

Ergo, they didnt buy the club 'on the cheap.' They paid its then market value. Lim offered £10m more which isnt a lot in the £300m scheme of things. The other bidder was a hedge fund and it appears their bid was lower than FSG's.

[jimmycase]

I though hedge funds took over companies, increased their value then sold them on?

 

More likely asset strip them then sell on the profitable part that's left.

[Thoth]

 

There were no other bidders. FSG got the club 'on the cheap' like any other party would because it was on the verge of going into administration with nearly £300m of debt.

So just to clarify you are saying FSG didn't get the club on the cheap then?

[SlugTrail]

Jimmy , thoth, you are saying exactly the same thing. FSG acquired us at a very reasonable price and when they sell they will make lots of money. 

[Ginny]

Jimmy , thoth, you are saying exactly the same thing. FSG acquired us at a very reasonable price and when they sell they will make lots of money. 

 

 

We got there in the end. 

[xerxes]

We won. So they are not shit anymore. Obviously.

[TheHowieLama]

There is a chance they may be shit again.

[xerxes]

There is a chance they may be shit again.

 

There is always next week

[SlugTrail]

they are only as good as the next transfer window

[CWD82]

Gone very quiet about the Anfield Road redevelopment. If they do that then at least we could say they have kept their promise of a stadium approaching 60k

[jimmycase]

Jimmy , thoth, you are saying exactly the same thing. FSG acquired us at a very reasonable price and when they sell they will make lots of money. 

 

Fair comment.

 

Id just say, lots of people seem to think the club was worth 400m or 500m, probably because the cowsboys were touting it at around £600m, when it clearly wasnt. It's not like FSG made a low ball offer for the club, Lim only offered £10m more and the suggestion is Mill offered less than FSG.

 

Some people have an issue when \ if FSG do sell the club that they'll make a profit. There's nothing wrong with that in my opinion. Football tv revenues have soared even since they came in and that's without going on about stabilising the club or ponying up money in an interest free loan to build the new stand.

[SlugTrail]

Fair comment.

 

Id just say, lots of people seem to think the club was worth 400m or 500m, probably because the cowsboys were touting it at around £600m, when it clearly wasnt. It's not like FSG made a low ball offer for the club, Lim only offered £10m more and the suggestion is Mill offered less than FSG.

 

Some people have an issue when \ if FSG do sell the club that they'll make a profit. There's nothing wrong with that in my opinion. Football tv revenues have soared even since they came in and that's without going on about stabilising the club or ponying up money in an interest free loan to build the new stand.

FSG knew they were getting a steal, but as you pointed out that was the going rate. We were effectively being run as an amateur business. FSG looked at the marketing opertunities and growth capacity and thought hell yeah!!!.

 

Absolutely nothing wrong with what they did, but their whole ownership appeal was based on FFP being introduced to stop the oil rich clubs making it a manopoly. Again absolutely nothing wrong with that, but now that isn't the case and the Chinese are looking to purchase clubs it's gonna get harder and harder to have any sustained success.

 

They will sell, not yet and probably not for the remainder of this or the next TV deal.

[jimmycase]

FSG knew they were getting a steal, but as you pointed out that was the going rate. We were effectively being run as an amateur business. FSG looked at the marketing opertunities and growth capacity and thought hell yeah!!!.

 

Absolutely nothing wrong with what they did, but their whole ownership appeal was based on FFP being introduced to stop the oil rich clubs making it a manopoly. Again absolutely nothing wrong with that, but now that isn't the case and the Chinese are looking to purchase clubs it's gonna get harder and harder to have any sustained success.

 

They will sell, not yet and probably not for the remainder of this or the next TV deal.

 

Yep again, wouldnt disagree with what you've said. I think they will sell a stake in the club (minority or majority) some time in the future.

[TheHowieLama]

They will sell a minority share in the club for more than they have into it.

 

Dumb fuckers.