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It’s an hour after the game and I’ve already started the report. Usually I wait at least 24 hours, sometimes longer, but this time I need to get it all down now rather than stew over it. I doubt I’ll feel any differently in a month, let alone a day. The anger will hopefully subside (it better, as right now I’m ready to kill someone) but the sense of injustice won’t. 

 

This was one of those games you’ll never forget and the feeling of being robbed never goes away. Funnily enough it was only a few days ago I was thinking back to when Suarez scored a late winner there and it was wrongly ruled out for offside. I’ve never actually got over that, having that moment of euphoria unfairly snatched away. That was bad, but at least the linesman had the excuse of only seeing it at normal speed with the naked eye. This was far worse, and a lot more sinister.

 

Firstly, before I get into all that, I want to make the point that this was a really good performance from the lads to bounce back from what happened at Villa Park. We wanted a response and we got it. The way we started the game I felt as though we were going to absolutely steamroller them. There was an aggression and a desire to play on the front foot, and Everton couldn’t cope. 

 

It looked like the lads wanted to make a statement and overall they did. So from that point of view, all good. The anger I’m feeling has nothing to do with anything performance related and I saw a lot of things to make me feel good about the rest of the season, not least how that midfield looked with Thiago and Hendo in tandem. Wow. 

 

Our opening goal was beautiful. Slick, sexy football that ended with Robbo skipping past Coleman and pulling it back for Sadio to finish. Prior to the game that’s the area I thought we could really hurt them. That “Hamez” twat has a great left peg but he’s slow as fuck and doesn’t want to chase back. What a horrible little bastard he is. Waving his imaginary cards and constantly being up in the ref’s grid. Fucking over-rated little gel-head turd. 

 

Sick of the fawning over him already. He’s being hyped up like he’s some superstar but he’s been a bit part player at every big club he’s been at. If he was that good he wouldn’t have ended up at Everton in his prime years. He’s basically Shaqiri at Stoke, only with more Instagram followers.

 

So that side of the field was always going to be key for us. The opportunity was always going to be there to overload on Coleman and that was happening a lot early doors. It led to the opening goal and should have led to a second when Sadio missed an identical chance after again being set up by Robbo.

 

So yeah, all good to start with. We were already one up and if the officials had done their job we’d have been playing against ten men for most of the game. Pickford somehow getting away with that might be the biggest miscarriage of justice involving a goalkeeper since Harold Schumacher almost killed Patrick Battiston and was only yellow carded. Not even joking. My mind is blown that he was allowed to stay on after that.

 

I don’t know what happened there. I’ve heard Peter Walton say that the offside doesn’t make any difference in that situation and that Pickford should have walked. I’ve also seen a rules nerd on Twitter saying that only applies for ‘violent conduct’ and not ‘serious foul play’. Dermot Gallagher, the baldy Michael Stipe looking bootlicking cunt, obviously defended the decision as that’s what he does. He’s never seen a decision he didn’t agree with.  

 

I tell you what I do know. Richarlison was sent off for a lunge on Thiago even though the whistle had actually gone for a free-kick a split second earlier. So how is this any different? Answer; it isn’t.

 

Leaving aside the fact I don’t think it was offside anyway (I’ll get to that shortly), that is serious foul play, endangering an opponent, violent conduct, common assault and a whole lot of other things rolled into one. 

 

It’s not up for debate. It’s a clear red card and there is no way on earth Pickford should have been allowed to stay on. So how come he got away with it? Michael Oliver could have given it so he isn’t blameless, but from the replays it looks like he didn’t have an unobstructed view of it and in situations like that he would previously rely on his linesman (who had a great view). Now he has the lino as well as VAR, so if he doesn’t want to give something he didn’t have a great view of then that’s fine. 

 

Oliver isn’t the problem here. The technology is in place to help him out and it didn’t. So I’m not holding him responsible in any way as that is only taking the attention away from the cunt who caused all this. And I don’t mean Pickford. 

 

Either the VAR ref, David Coote, is incompetent or he’s something far worse. I don’t know, but he’s the same fella who didn’t give the foul on Origi at Old Trafford last season when he was on VAR and he’s the twat that didn’t give a penalty when Robbo was brought down against Burnley. Yeah, remember that one? When Robbo laid into the ref at the end of the game because it cost us our 100% home record? Well Coote was the ref Robbo and Klopp tore a strip off at the end. And now he’s got his revenge. 

 

Other than a deliberate show of bias, it’s hard to fathom any possible explanation for why he didn’t tell Oliver to take a look at that challenge. The only reason he was reviewing the offside was because otherwise it would be a penalty. So the initial explanation put forward that “VAR didn’t review the challenge” is bollocks. They must have realised that because they then changed their tune and said it was reviewed and Coote didn’t feel that Oliver needed to look at it.

 

I’d go as far as to say that this should be a sackable offence. Seriously, if you can look at that and not think it’s a red card, you’re in the wrong job. Or if you know it’s red card but ignore it for whatever reason, again, you’re in the wrong job. 

 

It was a horrific challenge and it’s no surprise that Virgil’s knee is damaged. When people talk about “career ending tackles” this is the fucking poster child of it. Just look at the impact, the height he comes in at and the force behind it. It really ought to have been even worse only fortunately Virgil’s studs didn’t stick in the turf. I’ve seen similar things happen in NFL games where the player’s knee has completely hyper-extended backwards because his foot had planted in the turf. 

 

Thankfully Virgil’s wasn’t as bad as some I’ve seen in other sports, but we now have to wait to see just what kind of damage there is. Because there 100% is some ligament damage there as you can’t absorb contact like that without there being some kind of damage. Virgil is as close to indestructible as you’ll find, but he’s not made of rubber.

 

One thing I will say in defence of Pickford is that he’s not malicious, he’s just shit, impulsive and reckless. He didn’t intend to injure Van Dijk, he was just lunging out trying to make a block. I’ve seen him do that loads of times. Flying out of his goal, completely out of control and endangering opponents. He genuinely isn’t trying to hurt anyone but there’s no doubt that he’s just fucking thick and reckless as fuck.

 

Compare that to Richarlison and it’s chalk and cheese though. Richarlison 100% wanted to do damage and he can stick his phoney insincere twitter apology up his hoop, the fucking animal. 

 

If you’ve been reading the round ups you know my hatred of Richarlison is long standing, even going back to his Watford days. Over recent months he’s cemented himself as the player I hate most in the entire world of football. He’s a pure, unadulterated shithouse cunt with the kind of face you’d never tire of smacking. What he did to Thiago was deliberate and fucking cowardly. 

 

Pickford though, he wasn’t looking to injure anyone he was just fully committed to making a block and he was totally out of control. It’s standard Pickford though. He’s just reckless and wild in literally everything he does. He’s so amped up all the time, like a kid who’s had too many skittles. I’ve said it before but I’m sure he’s on the spectrum of something. He’s definitely got something going on, and I’m not saying that as a cheap insult, I’m being completely serious. 

 

I look at him and immediately think of the kid in school who always has a big green dangly snot rolling out of his nose. The kid whose tongue is always out when he’s writing or drawing. The kid who has to sit at the front of the class because he can’t keep still and is always turning around and talking. That’s Jordan Pickford. I don’t know what condition he has as I’m no expert, but he has something. I’d put money on it.

 

I’m not THAT angry with Pickford though. I am a bit of course, that goes without saying. Virgil is injured as a result of Pickford’s lack of control, but to be honest I’m more pissed off at the cunt in Stockley Park who chose to ignore it. He doesn’t have any excuse for his actions and unlike Pickford you won’t get him apologising for it either.

 

You know the other difference between Pickford and Richarlison? Pickford told Henderson to apologise to Virgil on his behalf. Pretty sure he tried to do it himself while Virg was on the floor getting treatment too. It doesn’t make what he did ok, that’s not what I’m saying. I’m merely highlighting the difference between him and Richarlison. Pickford didn’t make a big public show of apologising because the only thing he wanted to do was get a message to Van Dijk to say he was sorry. 

 

Richarlison was the opposite. He didn’t apologise to Thiago on the field when it happened because he was more interested in feigning injury hoping to escape a red card. After he’d been sent off he didn’t go over and apologise then. He just walked off with that horrible face like a smacked arse expression he permanently has.

 

So to then go on Twitter later on and apologise. Nah, fuck off you shady, snide little cunt. I hope Thiago sees straight through that. I’d like to think the Brazilian lads would rethink their friendship with the scumbag too, but no doubt Alisson will have them all “turning the other cheek” and preaching the value of forgiveness. 

 

That Van Dijk incident changed the game though. Until that moment we were so much on top and I was genuinely feeling like the lads looked in the mood to make up for two weeks ago by scoring seven of their own. That incident was just a momentum killer because it was a triple whammy.

 

First, it was a penalty. That offside decision was iffy as fuck. I’m aware that the offside rules have changed this season due to tweaking of the attacking handball rule. Whereas last season goals were being disallowed when the ball hit an attacker’s shoulder, this year it’s now been changed to the upper arm, which in turn has affected the offside rule. That’s what Coote used to screw us.

 

The line is drawn not to the armpit as it would have been last year, but now it’s to the bottom of the shoulder / top of the arm area. Even so, that line is not drawn to the right point on Virgil’s arm, and even if it was I still don’t think that’s offside. The problem is when it’s that close the cunt on the VAR can basically do whatever he wants. I’ve said all along that it should be based on feet and nothing else. If your foot is offside then you’re offside. All of this shit about shoulders and chests and heads, it’s needlessly complicating things and killing people’s enjoyment of the sport.

 

So not only were we denied a penalty and not only did we lose Virgil to injury, but we conceded virtually straight away. And it’s a goal that doesn’t happen if he’s on the pitch. When was the last time we conceded like that? It just hardly ever happens. Even after that one we were back on track and defended set-pieces well. But the first one without him, after the reshuffle, we weren’t organised and it cost us.

 

Adrian though. That was fucking terrible. The marking in the box was the first problem, but even so that’s an easy save. Initially I didn’t think it was but after seeing the replay it’s just awful goalkeeping. His footwork gives him no chance of being able to react as he’s moving backwards and crouching down. I’m not scapegoating him, I’m just saying what I saw. If he’s stood normally he saves it easily, but he’s hunched down and off balance and therefore can’t react. 

 

They didn’t deserve to be level at the break as we’d been much the better side. I liked how we were playing, even after Virg went off. We were back to looking like Liverpool again. The hunger, the pressing, the sharp movement in attacking areas. At half time I felt good about our chances. Play like that again in the second half and we’ll defo win.

 

Unfortunately we didn’t play like that again. The second half started quite scrappily and we were losing too many second balls. The control we had in the first half had gone and although we were still the team playing the better football, we’d lost something from the first half showing. We eventually got it back but the first 20 minutes or so of the second half wasn’t great. Other than that, top performance I thought.

 

We could easily have conceded in that scrappy spell though as Richarlison headed a Rodriguez cross against the post. I thought Adrian should have come out and dealt with the cross but to be fair I think he would have saved the header with his foot if the post hadn’t gotten in the way. 

 

We went 2-1 up with a sharp finish from Mo after the ball fell to him in the box. He’d been a bit in and out all game and had produced two awfully weak shots in good situations, but this was Fowler-esque, controlling a half volley into the corner. 

 

This was the point when we should have buried them (Matip went really close with a header and we had other moments) but instead we allowed them to draw level again. Generally we controlled them well and restricted the service to Calvert-Lewin but this time we gave the ball away cheaply (Sadio with a stupid back heel) and got caught. Hendo couldn’t quite cut out the pass and Trent allowed Digne to run off him and deliver a cross for Calvert-Lewin to head home.

 

Terrible from Trent that, I don’t actually know what he was even thinking. It almost looked like he was holding a line to play offside except he was about 10 yards further forward. He needs to track that run and prevent the cross, because once the cross came in it was game over. Robbo might have done better in putting Calvert-Lewin off but he was always going to be in trouble there. The striker hung in the air and headed it back where it came from. Not much you can do about that, the big problem is allowing the cross in the first place. Not to mention giving it away so needlessly to begin with.

 

We reacted well to that and Pickford denied Sadio after he snuck in behind. The rebound fell to Jota (on for Bobby) and his sent it back goal wards. It was going straight at Pickford so Mané correctly decided to try and divert it in with his head, but he put too much on it and it went wide.

 

Then we had the Richarlison assault on Thiago that reduced them to ten men. To be honest I’m surprised it took that long, as both Gomes and Allan had been flirting with red cards all day. That Gomes is proper shite. I’ve been saying it for ages but he’s somehow fooled people into thinking he’s good just because he looks like he should be good. Being handsome and having Barcelona on your CV is enough to fool a lot of people it seems, but not me. I’m onto him. He’s fucking SHITE him. And he’s a snide.

 

Allan is another twat but I will concede that he’s a good player. I couldn’t stand him when he faced us with Napoli as I always remember he seemed to be in the thick of everything, constantly fouling, squaring up to people and getting in the refs face. When the Blues signed him I thought “yep, he’ll fit right in there” and he has. He looks, and plays, like he’s an enforcer for a Brazilian prison gang.

 

With us on top and them a man down, it was just about whether we could find a winner in the short time we had left. And we did. It may not have counted, but make no mistake we won that game. Thiago’s brilliant no look reverse pass found Mané and he cut it back for Hendo to send a shot goal wards. It should have been saved but Pickford made a Pickford out of it and the ball ended up in the net.

 

Everyone went wild. Klopp, his staff, the players, all of us watching at home. There’s nothing like a late derby winner and this was about to be added to the long list of recent ones. And then came the VAR check. You could see on the screen that he was fucking about with the lines, trying to make it look offside. Immediately I knew we were fucked.

 

When the decision came through I lost it. I generally keep a cool head when I’m watching the match at home but this time I lost the plot, punching fuck out of the sofa, shouting and screaming, before I knew I needed to get out of there and headed for the back garden. On my way I booted the sofa in the conservatory and almost broke my foot. It’s hurting today but it would have been worse if I hadn’t realised at the last second that I was going to do myself an injury and managed to take a little something off it.

 

I honestly don’t remember ever being angrier about a football match. I’ve now had 24 hours or so since it ended and I haven’t really calmed down much. I’m not wanting to smash up furniture as I was when it first happened, but I’m in an absolute stinking mood and feel like I could just snap at the slightest little thing. It’s not about the result, it’s purely about the injustice of it and the feeling of being cheated. We conceded seven at Villa and I felt nothing like this. I got over that fairly quickly.

 

This though? It’s going to sting for a long time. I’ve been against VAR from day one because it sucks the emotion out of watching the game. You don’t want to celebrate goals in case they’re ruled out. There have been plenty of times I haven’t celebrated because I didn’t want to jump the gun. Sometimes it was justified because the goal didn’t count, but other times the goal stood and I realised I hadn’t even celebrated it. How shit is that?

 

I celebrated this one, big time. And for what? For some little jobsworth traffic warden cunt to suck the life out of us all by disallowing it. What I resent about this is that it’s only offside if you want to make it offside, and even then it’s not actually offside.

 

This is actually very simple. Had the goal stood there wouldn’t have been anybody other than the most rabid Evertonian saying it was offside. No pundits, no journalists, no fans without any stake in the outcome, no ex referees working for TV. Nobody. Absolutely nobody. So Coote was not in a situation where he knew “I have to disallow this”. He simply chose to disallow it because that’s what he wanted to do. 

 

He manipulated the evidence in front of him to justify a decision he wanted to make. The same applies to the Pickford incident, only that one is easier to put down to simple incompetence. The Hendo goal isn’t incompetence, it’s just dodgy as fuck. 

 

Liverpool have asked for clarification on what part of Sadio was deemed to be offside. They won’t get clarification because you can see on the freeze-frame there is no part of him offside at the moment Thiago plays the pass. They’ll get a fudged answer about the technology showing his shoulder is ahead of Mina’s foot and Keane’s arse and blah blah blah but it’s nonsense.

 

The footage used with the red and blue lines is bullshit. There’s daylight between Sadio’s shoulder and the blue part of the line, but you could actually drive a bus through the gap between his shoulder and the red line. The reason for the gap is because a vertical line then has to be drawn from the shoulder to the floor, which then gives you the red and blue lines he used to justify it being offside.

 

I’m not having it at all though. He’s messed about with those lines and the point of contact when Thiago plays the ball to come to the decision he wanted to make. It fucking stinks. This is ruining the game and turning people away from it. If it wasn’t my livelihood I feel like there’s a good chance I’d fuck the whole thing off because it seems as though every year there’s something else comes in to make the game a little bit less enjoyable.

 

It’s not even sour grapes relating to things that don’t go our way. I mean fucking hell, I was even angry the other week when a Manchester United player was unjustly sent off. Imagine that! Even thinking about that now makes me even more livid. I mean come on, Martial was sent off for barely touching Lamela (who had provoked the whole thing by being a cunt and then made it worse by rolling around the floor) yet Pickford is allowed to endanger the career of an opponent and escapes scot free. 

 

What is the fucking point of having video evidence if it’s actually making worse decisions than the ref on the field would? These faceless cunts in suits are ruining the game with their stupid fucking messing about with the rules.

 

You could probably argue that the actions of Coote in this game are enough for us to actually demand the game be replayed. Obviously that’s not a road you want to go down as we’ll never get any kind of refereeing decision ever again if we embarrassed them in that manner, but this is just cheating, pure and simple.

 

The worst part is how the technology will be used as a crutch to hide behind. It’s not the technology that is at fault, it’s the absolute cunts occasionally implementing it. It isn’t all VAR officials, some of them are doing a good job. I’ve lost track of the amount of times I’ve dropped the “C” bomb in this report but it isn’t even a strong enough word to do justice to some of the horrible fuckers I’m talking about.

 

So what now? We’re waiting on news on Virgil but let’s face it, it’s not going to be good. It’s simply a case of how bad is it going to be. Best case scenario would probably be 4-6 weeks and I don’t even want to think about the worst case. So now we have to make do without him for an undetermined length of time. A lot of people will write us off now, especially all the smug fuckers who’ve been saying “let’s see how they’d do if they were without Van Dijk” but never ask the same question of what happens if any other side loses their most important player.

 

Well we are going to be without him now so it’s up to the others to prove all the naysayers wrong. Whether that’s Matip and Gomez as a pair (for as long as either of them can stay fit) or whether Fabinho comes into the mix, it doesn’t matter. The team should still be good enough to get by unless we get more injuries. 

 

Of course we’ll miss Virg for however long he’s out, but we still have the rest of the team intact (or will have when Alisson comes back anyway) and Thiago is going to help us reach another level anyway as he’s sensational. Assuming he to hasn’t been crocked by some dirty blueshite. The mad thing about this is we can’t even say it was the derby atmosphere and the influence of 35,000 frothing at the mouth rabid blues screaming them on. They acted like this without any fans in the ground. Cunts.

 

Star man is Hendo, who was fucking incredible. What a performance, and never would there have been a more fitting match winner than him. It’s a scandal that he was robbed off it by a cunt who if he was in any other line of work (other than politician) would be picking up his P45 on Monday morning for such a gross failing of duty.

 

Klopp’s message to the players this week should be this: 

 

Fuck Everton. Fuck David Coote. Fuck everyone who isn’t us. 

 

 

Team: Adrian; Alexander-Arnold, Matip, Van Dijk (Gomez), Robertson; Fabinho (Wijnaldum), Henderson, Thiago; Salah, Firmino (Jota), Mané:


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Nothing to say Dave. My head fell off after the Villa game and the officiating disgrace - not only in this game, but many, many others - has only added insult to injury. 

 

I'm truly disillusioned with top-flight footy. It's so far beyond a joke. 

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Great article Dave. You summed up the feelings of everyone describing how you felt about the 'winner.' I was exactly the same, I cant remember the last time I felt so angry at a decision and we've had some shockers.

 

Said many a time, Im in favour of VAR. The technology works despite what anyone says. It's the inept and possibly biased cunts who operate it that make it look like VAR's the 'faut.' It isnt, it's the people using it.

 

Does anyone seriously believe hendo's goal would have been wiped out for 'offside' in Germany, Italy, France, Spain, Holland or any other league using VAR? No. The only time it would have been wiped out is if the VAR officials had been paid off because that isnt offside.

 

All that said, Imtotally fucked off with VAR now. It's bad enough having the clueless atkinson or the manc biased taylor fuck us over on the pitch, now we have uber twats like this coote doing off the pitch.

 

The old girl used to laugh at me when I went on about refs having an agenda when they're called out during and after games. I knew this coote cunt had cost us before but didnt realise it was him that Robbo slagged off at the end of the burnley game.

 

He's clearly kept that one in his little black book, hasnt he? What better way to show us who's boss, eh?

 

Im not giving Oliver the almost free pass though, Dave. For the life of me, I dont get why he isnt taking ownership. He's the on field ref after all, and going to have a look at the monitor for both the pickford incident and the 'offside.' VAR is there to aid him not replace him as the final arbiter.

 

Excellent point about richarlison's red and his tackle being after the whistle was blown so the bollocks about the ball being 'dead' due to the offside in the pickford incident doesnt stack up.

 

By the way, what did your mum say?

 

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The sickening thing about Refs and VAR in particular is they have zero fucking accountability. They never have to stand in front of a TV camera and journalist asking them explain a contentious decision (the official line about Virge and Pickford was beneath contempt!), or just why they think some stray hair follicle is enough to fuck a team over. Whatever happened to giving the strikers the benefit of the doubt?? Any technology is only as good as who’s operating it (as Chris Rock said you could drive a car with your feet but that don’t mean it should be done!), but these fucktards are making the game a laughing stock

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This match is soul destroying

 

The pundits may agree it wasn't offside and Pickford should have been sent off but no questions will be asked of the incompetent refs that has been allowed to be incompetent for decades.

 

The fans of other teams have allowed the media narrative that Liverpool constantly get favorable decisions to see this as justice against LiVARpool.

 

I have always been a defender of VAR to prevent performances like Martin Atkinson gave against Leicester that cost us 2 points in a season we lost the league by 1 but looking at this now I honestly don't see what is the point. These fucks implemented VAR and used it to justify their incompetence, they promised this season was supposed to be better after how incompetently it was implemented last year but now we're here.

 

This feeling of helplessness knowing that the people in charge will allow us to be fucked over while the fans of other teams will just ignore it because they take pleasure in watching us struggle just makes me want to give up on this sport.

 

 

 

 

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You weren't going to put it into words but I will. He is a corrupt cunt. He should be investigated by the Police for corruption. Nothing else about it. Fucking cunt. Him and his fucking masters, every single one on the take. Fuck them.

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I'm even more angry after reading that now, I knew it was the same VAR fucker from the Burnley game but I didn't realize it was the same one from the utd game too. He's either staggeringly incompetent or biased or he's both. It's the worse VAR display I've seen since it's been introduced.

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9 minutes ago, DJLJ said:

You weren't going to put it into words but I will. He is a corrupt cunt. He should be investigated by the Police for corruption. Nothing else about it. Fucking cunt. Him and his fucking masters, every single one on the take. Fuck them.

 

The reason I didn't use the word corrupt is because I don't think he's on the take.

 

I called him a cheat because he deliberately screwed us over. What his motivation is I don't know. I do know that he decided we weren't going to win that game and he hid behind the technology to justify his actions.

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I was going to reply with something about Richarlison's permanent face like a slapped arse until I read it in the report. It's the perfect description.

 

There are a few occasions I can think of where I was massively pissed off after the game, to the point where it still bothered me days or weeks later. One of them is the 'Respect The Ref' campaign which began and ended with Mascherano at Old Trafford in March 2008. Another is Sterling being flagged offside at City when he was at least 3 yards onside (!) in December 2013. Yet another is Fat Jon Moss and his shitshow against Spurs in 2018.

 

VAR was not available for any of those, yet it was in use here and easy to rectify any issues. The trouble is, VAR is at the mercy of the staggering ineptitude of PGMOL, and not helped by the rule-making bodies overly complicating things like handball and offside. Simplifying the offside rule by basing it on a player's feet is so simple to implement and so much easier to assess with VAR. I'm not sure how to make the handball rule fairer other than getting rid of the 'unnatural position and making yourself bigger' thing. If a ball is blasted somewhere near your face, even if it's not direct, the immediate (and natural) instinct is to protect your face.

 

As for the Pickford incident, PGMOL are trying to justify the officials' decisions with some typically wishy washy bollocks. All they do is double down on the stupid so they can continue living in their perfect bubble where they can do no wrong.

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100% Spot on Dave Coote is a cheat pure and simple it's the only conclusion imo he has form with us the only difference between him and Webb is that he's hiding behind the technology,  the club should be calling him out if the FA have the bollocks to have him officiate in any capacity at our games  in the future .

I'm still fuming 24 hours later and probably like most reds celebrated like lunatics when Henderson's ' winner ' went in only to be cheated out of it by some manc twat 

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They were at it all over the park yesterday. That 'ccchhhamez" is one horrible little rat. All game he was on at the ref. Richarlison is the most over-rated player in the league (Pogba is but that goes without saying) and if things don't go his way in the first 10 minutes he starts sulking. Allan is a snidey twat who should have been off for persistent cunt behaviour well before he got booked. Pickford is a chavvy little rat who should have been well gone. Digne is another snidey little twat. Mina is a joke, all game he was shouting at the ref who just let him constantly get away with being in his face calling him a little cunt. VAR shit themselves. Normally when a ref gets something wrong he will try and make amends as the game goes on. This cunt didn't. Not a conspiracy nut myself but they all done a job on us yesterday. Fuck Everton, fuck Ancelotti, fuck the fucking lot of them. 

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Great report which mirrors how I feel. I hate the whole injustice of it all.

 

The problem I have with Pickford's challenge is he didn't need to make it at all. He's the keeper, and whilst he may be prone to rash moments, I can't see why he did that in that particular situation. Who makes a crazed challenge like that in the penalty area when the ball is heading out of play and the player running for it is at a sharp angle to the goal? It's an appalling challenge to make on a fellow professional, totally out of control, and potentially career-threatening/ending. Benefit of doubt, maybe he lost his head in the moment, but he must have been so hyped up at that moment to do that, or, as you say, there is more to his psychology that we don't know.

 

As for Coote, he's either massively incompetent at best, biased, or a blatant cheat and corrupt at worst. I find it intriguing that we in England don't seriously consider for any moment that one or two of our refs might be on the take. It's English exceptionalism at its finest. They're human beings after all, no different to anyone else. It's happened in other great footballing nations, I honestly can't see why it wouldn't happen here.

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Yeah, furious yesterday, furious this morning when I woke up, still furious. That twat has to be sacked and humiliated publicly for either incompetence or cheating. The reports about the rest of the match are irrelevant really as down to 10 men the game would have been different. 

You're right about Richarlison, he has a tile loose, he's just out to cheat and hurt people. 

I went to a non league game immediately after this and, yes, the ref made mistakes but, you know what, the players moaned for a moment but then just got on with it. That's football, not a computer game which is what VAR is making the PL. If it is going to decide offsides they have to have a margin for error as selecting the exact freeze frame for the moment the ball leaves the foot is inexact at best. Level used to be onside, I have no idea what the rule is anymore. It seems designed by Dido Harding.

The news on van Dijk just makes everything worse. I'd do harm to Coote if I met him. Oliver doesn't escape, why didn't he ask to see the footage or did he think Virgil was having a laugh?

If Liverpool didn't mean the world to me I'd bin the PL altogether, many of my mates already have what with VAR, PPV and all the other marketing acronyms. Fuming.

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Great report! My concern about VAR was always that the people who operated it were the same incompetents who'd made its introduction necessary. Obviously, Coote is the villain this week, but the root of the problems lie at the top, in Mike Riley who chooses these refs and keeps them on the list despite the mounting evidence of their uselessness. David Elleray is also culpable because he's at IFAB and seems determined to mess around with the laws with the effect of making them more complex and uch harder to enforce.

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I’m not sure we’ve written to the PL because we genuinely want an explanation. I think we’re doing it to make sure they never put the dodgy fucker in one of our games ever again.

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On top of everything else, I'm blaming that prick on VAR for the fact I've managed to get virtually no work for university done this week. Been far too wound up to just sit down and concentrate on it ever since the full time whistle went yesterday.

 

Worst possible news on van Dijk. It seemed inevitable after the way this weekend had gone. Big challenge ahead now but, as you say, it's not like he's the only world class player we have. A few people are talking as though the season is over. This squad deserves more trust than that. Things look bleak but this squad won't just throw the towel in.

 

And even if this is a bleak moment, we can all take solace in the fact that we don't support Everton. Forget all the fawning over their start to the season. They looked no better yesterday than they have in any other derby in the last decade. Within a few months they'll have slipped down to 7th or 8th and be as irrelevant as they have been every other year for the past 2 and a half decades.

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This report is incredible. Exactly what I've been saying to anyone who'll listen to me, and in my mrs case - even those who don't want to.

 

How that fucking coward Coote can face his employers after that farce - and not have to answer some serious questions, will be a mystery.

 

I've missed this place.

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