Cameron: "Cuts will change our way of life"

[Brownie]

3 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

Fuck's sake. Where have I said that?

How else was it going to be paid for? It ceratinly wouldn't have been down to having no austerity

[Skidfingers McGonical]

1 minute ago, Bjornebye said:

They are. 

They were.

 

There is a difference.

 

EDIT: So are Labour and the Tories. Don't see you give AoT any shit for them or Rico for the Tories in the same way you do to SD.

 

 

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

They were.

 

There is a difference.

They've got a new supporter anyway 

 

"Lets forget things from 10 years ago" 

 

Jesus wept. 

[Skidfingers McGonical]

Who?

[Skidfingers McGonical]

3 minutes ago, Brownie said:

How else was it going to be paid for? It ceratinly wouldn't have been down to having no austerity

How is that me saying that is how it should have been paid for?

 

 

[Bjornebye]

3 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

Who?

You 

[Skidfingers McGonical]

7 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

They've got a new supporter anyway 

 

"Lets forget things from 10 years ago" 

 

Jesus wept. 

First things first I am not a suportter of the Lib Dem's. Nearly was in 1997.

 

Poor fucking students being lied to eh? If they are still crying about being lied to about tuition fees 10 years on, then they need to get a grip.

 

[Bjornebye]

3 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

First things first I am not a suportter of the Lib Dem's. Nearly was in 1997.

 

Poor fucking students being lied to eh? If they are still crying about being lied to about tuition fees 10 years on, then they need to get a grip.

 

Whats the second thing? 

[Brownie]

7 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

How is that me saying that is how it should have been paid for?

You do realise that what happened was you said something which could be interpreted in different ways, so I asked you a question about it, don’t you?

 

If you meant it in a different way to how I interpreted it, then sound.

 

Feel free to explain what you actually

meant.

[Brownie]

9 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

Poor fucking students being lied to eh? If they are still crying about being lied to about tuition fees 10 years on, then they need to get a grip.

That comes across as a bit cuntish, to be honest.

 

What’s wrong with you?

[Kevin D]

22 hours ago, Brownie said:

Bump.

 

Austerity 2.0, incoming....

 

Do you have to be so cynical ? Why not take the chancellor at his word?

[Bjornebye]

Imagine being a student and being told that tuition fees will be scrapped so voting off the back of it. 10 years later still being in debt after being lied too and having the nerve to still be pissed off about it. How fucking dare they. 

[Jairzinho]

2 hours ago, Mudface said:

Ooh, the Taxpayers' Alliance has woken up and spotted a squirrel-

 

Are they referring to the Royal Family?

[Strontium]

19 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Imagine being a student and being told that tuition fees will be scrapped so voting off the back of it.

 

You'd definitely have to imagine that, because it didn't happen. 

[Bjornebye]

11 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

You'd definitely have to imagine that, because it didn't happen. 

I don't half admire your on-going battle with the truth Strontz. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/nov/12/lib-dems-tuition-fees-clegg

 

 

[Skidfingers McGonical]

1 hour ago, Brownie said:

You do realise that what happened was you said something which could be interpreted in different ways, so I asked you a question about it, don’t you?

 

If you meant it in a different way to how I interpreted it, then sound.

 

Feel free to explain what you actually

meant.

It doesn’t read any other way than it should have been expected that the Tories spending would bring about Austerity 2.0.

[Skidfingers McGonical]

1 hour ago, Brownie said:

That comes across as a bit cuntish, to be honest.

 

What’s wrong with you?

Nothing. People still going on about tuition fees need to stop moaning.

 

 

[Bjornebye]

Just now, Skidfingers McGonical said:

Nothing. People still going on about tuition fees need to stop moaning.

 

 

Why do they? 

[Numero Veinticinco]

4 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

Nothing. People still going on about tuition fees need to stop moaning.

No thanks. I still believe the country is best served by not forcing young people to start their lives in 10s of thousands of debt. I still believe getting votes by pledging to scrap tuition fees and then voting for massive rises in tuition fees is a bad thing, no matter what the repayment schedule is. So stopping going on about tuition fees isn’t going to stop any time soon. While the coalition is gone their legacy is still being felt, and with brexit it’ll still be felt for decades yet. 
 

 

[Brownie]

17 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

It doesn’t read any other way than it should have been expected that the Tories spending would bring about Austerity 2.0.

It does, because you asked how else it would be paid for.

[Brownie]

16 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

Nothing. People still going on about tuition fees need to stop moaning.

 

 

A complete lack of empathy is never a good thing.

 

I’m approaching 40 and have only just paid off my student loan (which was nothing compared to what it costs now).

 

It impacts peoples lives for a very long time.

[Strontium]

1 hour ago, Bjornebye said:

I don't half admire your on-going battle with the truth Strontz. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/nov/12/lib-dems-tuition-fees-clegg

 

Um, no. The Lib Dem manifesto proposed to phase fees out over six years, so any current student voting in 2010 who thought their fees would be scrapped outright was sincerely mistaken.

[Karl_b]

1 minute ago, Brownie said:

A complete lack of empathy is never a good thing.

 

I’m approaching 40 and have only just paid off my student loan (which was nothing compared to what it costs now).

 

It impacts peoples lives for a very long time.

I was wondering how the hell you managed that when I've got 7/8 years left! Somehow I forgot I have loans from my PostGrad on top of that. 

 

The debt I accrued in 5 years of loans amounted to about £23k. If I was starting now, that wouldn't cover two years. Qualifying as an architect now comes with a £70k pricetag (and that excludes the third round of studies, professional exams, etc). 

 

We can discuss the structure of how that's paid back, how it's effectively a "tax" and the impact that has but that's an eye-watering amount of money that you know you'll be taking on.

[Karl_b]

1 minute ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Um, no. The Lib Dem manifesto proposed to phase fees out over six years, so any current student voting in 2010 who thought their fees would be scrapped outright was sincerely mistaken.

Or mislead. Either way.

[Bjornebye]

12 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Um, no. The Lib Dem manifesto proposed to phase fees out over six years, so any current student voting in 2010 who thought their fees would be scrapped outright was sincerely mistaken.

Nice strawman there. Where did anyone say that? It's 10 years down the line. Nice use of the words 'proposed'. Tell a lie enough and those who don't know better will believe it thats right isn't it?