PODCAST: Fulham 1 Liverpool 3 - Match Reaction

[tlw content]

The Reds season is still alive after a much needed win at Fulham got their title challenge back on track. Goals from Trent, Gravenberch and Jota sunk the Cottagers in what was a more comfortable win than many expected.

 

TLW Editor Dave Usher is joined by Julian Richards and Dan Thomas to look back on this game as well as previewing the midweek trip to Goodison. There's also a heated discussion on refs, VAR, Forest's bizarre statement and the impact officiating has had on this year's Premier League.

 

 

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[JohnnyH]

Come for the game analysis, stay for the Welshist review of Star Wars ever.

[Pidge]

You can't go with the onfield decision because asst refs are told to not make decisions. It's ridiculous.

[Pidge]

[Spy Bee]

Only had time for the opening salvos so far. Jules really is a glass half empty kind of guy isn't he!?

[Kevin D]

1) What’s the NBA Netflix documentary you were talking about called?

 

2) You’ve mentioned this Oliver saying he’s not going to the monitor thing a few times, where did you hear that?

[Antynwa]

Half way through the Podcast.

 

I didn't feel much different after the game either to be honest. Hollywood endings aside (and some Hollywood endings end up with everything going to shit as well). It's really difficult to focus on the maths and the what ifs, when we've had a number of examples where the maths hasn't come about nor have the what ifs. 

 

Even if we win all our games, there is a reasonable chance we won't win the league

Even if City and Arsenal drop points, there is a reasonable chance we will drop points

 

I'm quite philosophical about the situation mainly because I never thought we would do it, granted I hoped it wouldn't be because we have fallen off a cliff but never thought it was ours to win.

 

One question I've asked myself however which makes me wonder is that if you hadn't had your heart broken so many times, who is to say it won't work, just one time. 

 

Fuck knows where I'm going with that one. 

 

 

[Chris]

35 minutes ago, Kevin D said:

1) What’s the NBA Netflix documentary you were talking about called?

 

2) You’ve mentioned this Oliver saying he’s not going to the monitor thing a few times, where did you hear that?

 

He heard it from Richard Keys.

[dave u]

14 minutes ago, Chris said:

 

He heard it from Richard Keys.

 

He's said it multiple times and it's never been refuted. And it is a fact that Oliver hasn't been sent to the monitor in years since that time he stuck with his original decision and saw his arse about having his judgement questioned. 

[dave u]

The Netflix doc is called Untold: Operation Flagrant Foul.

[dave u]

Saw something the other day with a former PL ref doing a podcast and he was telling a story about how Ian Wright pissed him off so he decided to not give him any free-kicks. The opposition realised what was going on and started booting fuck out of Wrighty while he kept saying play on. He thought it was really funny, I just thought "yeah, this is the same shit that's been happening to Mo for years".

[dave u]

This is it

 

 

 

 

[JohnnyH]

And where can I hear more of these Welsh movie reviews?  My Welsh wife is interested

 

 

 

EDIT - I mean movies reviewed in a Welsh accent as opposed to movies about Wales as they are shit ones usually about a shit cinema or a shit hill

[JeanMichelFerriacrosstheMersey]

Quite the breakdown on this 1hr 48 min podcast about Liverpool's 3-1 victory over Fulham:

 

7 minutes on the actual game

Another 7 minutes chatting about Rafa and Brendan Rodgers

1 hr 34 minutes on arguing about refs 

 

Up the Reds. 

[Chris]

Agree with the lads on keeping the same front three, at least for midweek. It looked a little bit cohesive.

 

 

[Chris]

Jules doing the Lord's work during that referee chat. 

[Smell The Glove]

1 hour ago, Chris said:

Agree with the lads on keeping the same front three, at least for midweek. It looked a little bit cohesive.

 

 

It won't be the same 3 though.

[Reckoner]

Cheer up Welsh nob ed 

[JohnnyH]

I’ve finished it now. So now I know why @Pidge posted the Lawrence gif. 
 

The ref chat was both funny, and interesting. The idea a referee can’t be subconsciously affected and maybe stall on giving something dependent on his biases seems very unlikely, so I agree with Dave. Likening Carra stopping being an Everton fan to a referee not being a big fan of a team just doesn’t add up as it’s entirely different. Human nature says that you may, even inadvertently, be biased against a team dependent on any number of issues. I don’t think it’s as serious or extreme as Dave was hinting at, but I also don’t think it’s a zero issue. 
 

Great chat though. And really nice that Dan could head out halfway through and play an innings and it not be noticed.  

[dave u]

An innings for Dan is usually so quick no-one notices.

[dave u]

Keith Hackett said today when he was head of refs (and before that when he was just a ref) it was standard policy to find out who every ref supported and ensure they didn't referee their own team or any local rival. Then when it reached the business end of the season, they made sure none of them were involved in games that could impact the team they support. Jeff Winter has also said the same thing about when he reffed. 

 

Hackett says this has been kicked into touch by Howard Webb.

 

All of these issues we're seeing are his fault. A football team reflects their manager, and these PGMOL meffs are a reflection of their boss. He's taken something shit and made it a million times worse because he thinks he's not accountable to anyone and can do whatever the fuck he likes.

 

So far, he's actually right.

[JohnnyH]

46 minutes ago, dave u said:

An innings for Dan is usually so quick no-one notices.

I’ll tee ‘em up, you whack ‘em away. 

[Turkish Delight]

On the idea that ref's allegiances mean less when they reach the top level.

 

This is Michael Oliver watching Newcastle play United in a Premier League match two years ago.

[aws]

10 hours ago, JohnnyH said:

And where can I hear more of these Welsh movie reviews?  My Welsh wife is interested

 

 

 

 

Valley Viewings on S4C. 

[Red Shift]

At the risk of repeating myself, referees need to be made obsolete. We literally have all the tech to fuck them & human controlled VAR off. Gone. Just fuck off so we can get back to THEEEE most accurate instantaneous decisions possible.