Transgender stuff - what's going on?

[AngryOfTuebrook]

6 hours ago, Rico1304 said:

You’d think the Cass report would bring some humility.  Even if it was ‘Perhaps they were right about the blockers at least’. Nope.  Double down. 

Double down on what?

 

I haven't read the Cass report.  I know a lot of people are making a lot of noise about it (and I'd bet my favourite bollock that most of them haven't read it either).  I came across Hilary Cass answering questions about it, so I correctly judged that it fits the brief of this thread title.

 

Then you started talking about "senior Scottish politicians" that nobody outside Scotland has heard of.

[Rico1304]

7 hours ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Double down on what?

 

I haven't read the Cass report.  I know a lot of people are making a lot of noise about it (and I'd bet my favourite bollock that most of them haven't read it either).  I came across Hilary Cass answering questions about it, so I correctly judged that it fits the brief of this thread title.

 

Then you started talking about "senior Scottish politicians" that nobody outside Scotland has heard of.

Nope.  That’s not what happened.  You found a TA groups interpretation of an interview quoted by Billy Bragg.  No direct quotes.  You ignored the fact the woman has been told she’s not safe to travel on public transport. 
 

Read the report, then you don’t have to rely on anyone else. 
 

You’ve never heard of Kite before yesterday but believe them. It’s not my fault you haven’t heard of these people.  Yesterday it was “nobody”, now it’s nobody you’ve heard of. Goalposts shifting all the time. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

I really haven't missed your tiresome routine of pretending other people have posted stuff, when what they actually posted is still there for people to read.

 

 

 

If anyone intelligent is still reading this, Dr Cass's comments on the Cass Report are an interesting addition to any rational, informed debate.

[Pidge]

On 21/04/2024 at 09:42, AngryOfTuebrook said:

 

 

No lies in that thread, as far as what you've posted. Said a while ago that it seems some people are more interested in leveraging the report to make points about things not in the report, than actually seeing improvement across these services.

[Rico1304]

1 hour ago, Pidge said:

No lies in that thread, as far as what you've posted. Said a while ago that it seems some people are more interested in leveraging the report to make points about things not in the report, than actually seeing improvement across these services.

Lies by omission.  
 

Cass can’t say PBs are dangerous because there’s a lack of data and research.  In that scenario, where any normal person would demand proof of safety BEFORE giving them to children this is being framed as a win!?  TRAs have been pushing them for years, that was called out for years but anyone questioning it was labelled a bigot. 

[Rico1304]

On 20/02/2024 at 12:43, Pidge said:

How would hitting a woman outside of your household be 'domestic abuse'? It would be assault then and now regardless of who did it. It's also not what's happened in the clip, the player in white has the ball and the player in black commits a foul trying to tie it up, getting whipped around as they fight for the ball. The refs calls it early to try and avoid the confrontation, should probably have considered a flagrant or tech if they feel the player in white is being overly aggressive after the whistle. Being ejected a few times to protect players should put a stop to it, especially if it starts costing them games.

 

Not convinced that individual should be allowed in the game in the first place, as I don't know anything about them, but also not seeing any evidence of one player abusing or assaulting three people.

The player in white (who has a full beard) has now been suspended from a rowing club for sexually harassment after comments made in the female changing rooms. 
 

If you wait long enough…

[Pidge]

43 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

The player in white (who has a full beard) has now been suspended from a rowing club for sexually harassment after comments made in the female changing rooms. 
 

If you wait long enough…

 

Doesn't alter a single thing I said.

[Pidge]

49 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Lies by omission.  
 

Cass can’t say PBs are dangerous because there’s a lack of data and research.  In that scenario, where any normal person would demand proof of safety BEFORE giving them to children this is being framed as a win!?  TRAs have been pushing them for years, that was called out for years but anyone questioning it was labelled a bigot. 

 

They will still be available under certain conditions, which they would not be if they were deemed unsafe.

[Rico1304]

2 hours ago, Pidge said:

 

They will still be available under certain conditions, which they would not be if they were deemed unsafe.

As part of research, or continued for kids already on them.  
 

Edit - if the research says they are either unsafe or ineffective what would be your reaction to them being prescribed without evidence? 

[Pidge]

8 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

As part of research, or continued for kids already on them.  
 

Edit - if the research says they are either unsafe or ineffective what would be your reaction to them being prescribed without evidence? 

I wouldn't expect them to be on offer at that point to any new patients. Not sure about existing ones.

[Rico1304]

Here’s the BBC More or Less programme looking at the misinformation about Cass. 
 

https://x.com/michaelpforan/status/1781626318120985057?s=46&t=wTmhxkVCGgzL1q3_vvfmTA

[Rico1304]

Dawn Butler corrects the record on her misinformation on Cass. 

[Rico1304]

And now Stonewall backpedaling begins. 

[Rico1304]

On 25/05/2020 at 19:14, Rico1304 said:

When this all falls apart, which it will, the amount of back peddling will be unprecedented. 
 

Mermaids will be on the wrong side of history.  They are fucking horrid.  

Yep. 

[Rico1304]

 Wonder what Billy Bragg has to say…

 

https://www.ohchr.org/en/statements/2024/04/uk-implementation-cass-report-key-protecting-girls-serious-harm-says-un-expert

[Rico1304]

Who would have guessed that predatory men would take advantage of self ID? 
 

Makes you wonder about the men who defend it…

 

https://x.com/womensrightsnet/status/1783380459302293634?s=46&t=wTmhxkVCGgzL1q3_vvfmTA

[Rico1304]

Ha ha ha Scotland has fallen.