Bascombe

[Stu Monty]

What you or I may think of him is Irrelevant, I certainly wouldnt sit on judgement on him for doing so. Would I think poorly of him well without knowing all the facts I wouldnt be in a position to form a factual opinion, for example if he went there as sports editor I would fully understand his reasons for going etc etc

 

I think moving to the S*n for a promotion would the very defenition of selling your principles and I'd wager that Bascombe would agree with me. What you or I think of his is actually very relevant too, as he seems to be gauging that very opinion at the moment due to his understanding and respect of Liverpool fans and this delicate subject.

 

I think that the move over there is less important that what he can achieve over there. If he can shift some perceptions and have more of a positive influence than he can at the Echo then it will be a good thing. If on the other hand he is just a handy symbol for them to try and slowly melt the boycott and soften attitudes towards their sister paper then it will have been a bad thing.

 

You got that quote horribly arsed up by the way, and completely changed its message. It's:

 

If you aren't a Socialist at 20, you don't have a heart. If you're still a Socialist at 30, you don't have a brain.

[drewy]

I'm a champagne socialist me.

[Kopite]

I'm a champagne socialist me.

 

You are Polly Toynbee and I claim my free Guardian.

[Moo]

The NOTW is not the Sunday Sun otherwise it would be named as such, it is however it's 'sister' paper hence why this is a grey area.

And it IS a grey area, probably because it is not officially boycotted yet as some say say the families of the victims would probably not go near it because of the association.

 

Bascombe has a right to choose the best path for him, just as people have a right to think less of him for it.

It's up to his conscience if he can live with the possibility that the ones who are most likely to think less of him are the families of the 96.

[cochcaer]

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Good grief.

 

To be fair Col a few might bend your ears on the evil of porn and its misogyny.:angel:

[Dicko]

The NOTW is not the Sunday Sun otherwise it would be named as such, it is however it's 'sister' paper hence why this is a grey area.

And it IS a grey area, probably because it is not officially boycotted yet as some say say the families of the victims would probably not go near it because of the association.

 

Bascombe has a right to choose the best path for him, just as people have a right to think less of him for it.

It's up to his conscience if he can live with the possibility that the ones who are most likely to think less of him are the families of the 96.

 

The main reason it's not named as such is because there already is a Sunday Sun in Newcastle.

[Kopite]

To be fair Col a few might bend your ears on the evil of porn and its misogyny.:angel:

 

Porn never did me any harm. Where's that cat?

[Moo]

The main reason it's not named as such is because there already is a Sunday Sun in Newcastle.

 

Surely it would be possible to get round this, i.e. "The Sun on Sunday" etc etc.

[Kopite]

Stop putting words in his mouth, Col. He didn't say that. I applaud Nick for his honesty. So many people are afraid to share there opinions on subjects like this, knowing that there's only one view that's deemed acceptable. And sadly, it's a view that's seemingly utilised as much as a badge of honour by supporters to score cool points than the real reason for the boycott.

 

Not a badge of honour for me mate. I wouldn't line the cats tray with that rag.

 

That remind me, "here puss..."

[Virgil]

I liked the Million Dollar Man white suit. It was like Torres' white boots. Not many could pull it off like Ted could.

 

fuck this ted crock of shit only thing he's pullin off is little boys

[Dicko]

Stop putting words in his mouth, Col. He didn't say that. I applaud Nick for his honesty. So many people are afraid to share there opinions on subjects like this, knowing that there's only one view that's deemed acceptable. And sadly, it's a view that's seemingly utilised as much as a badge of honour by supporters to score cool points than the real reason for the boycott.

 

Seriously this is opening my eyes now. I never would have thought you'd get anyone saying what Nick said, yet alone someone defending him that's really shocked me to be honest.

[Moo]

Stop putting words in his mouth, Col. He didn't say that. I applaud Nick for his honesty. So many people are afraid to share there opinions on subjects like this, knowing that there's only one view that's deemed acceptable. And sadly, it's a view that's seemingly utilised as much as a badge of honour by supporters to score cool points than the real reason for the boycott.

 

You don't need to earn cool points or a badge of honour to justify having a strong opinion on how a particular publication handled the death of 96 fellow Reds.

[Dicko]

Surely it would be possible to get round this, i.e. "The Sun on Sunday" etc etc.

 

Possibly but there was no need, the NOTW is over a 100 years older than the Sun with it's own readership. Whilst it's fair to say it was an ailing readership they still had a platform to launch from.

[cochcaer]

The main reason it's not named as su*ch is because there already is a Sunday Sun in Newcastle.

 

From what I recall the NotW was in circulation during the war whereas the S*n was launched in the 60s. The reason it's not called Sunday S*n will be brand recognition.

 

We all know the score but it's an area where views fragment.

[Hermes]

I'm defending his right to express his opinion and acknowledge that there this issue isn't completely cut and dry.

 

 

:thumbsup: brilliant piece of editing of a Freudian slip.

[cochcaer]

Seriously this is opening my eyes now. I never would have thought you'd get anyone saying what Nick said, yet alone someone defending him that's really shocked me to be honest.

 

If you have strong anti-censorship beliefs surely you can see that people will be torn in two? I respect Nick's right without neccasarily agreeing with him.

[Moo]

I'm defending his right to express his opinion and acknowledge that there this issue isn't completely cut and dry.

 

And here's me thinking a stance against The Sun is cut and dry.

 

The more I see the less I know.

[Dicko]

If you have strong anti-censorship beliefs surely you can see that people will be torn in two? I respect Nick's right without neccasarily agreeing with him.

 

Sorry if it came across like anti censorship it wasn't meant to be it was the content of Nick's post before about working for the Sun that I was commenting on not his right to say it. I thought Chris was agreeing with him apologies to Chris if that's not the case.

[philyhamann]

Virgil

 

[drewy]

Are we not going round in circles, the boycott is against the S*N, the HFSG have confirmed to TWO Liverpool players, when asked, that the NOTW isn't part of our boycott.

 

Kelvin bastard McKenzie is the focus of my anger, he was the editor of the rag NOT the NOTW, and the bastard is still at it now for God's sake. I applaud the people who have expressed their views in a frank and open way just as I applaud Bascombe for having the guts to do something for the good of his own self knowing full well he'd upset some people due to his last position.

 

People are very quick to judge somebody in the public eye whilst safe in knowledge that they’ll never be judged in a similar way.

[MLB]

There's an old saying

 

If your a student and not a communist you havent got a heart and if your in your 40s and not a capatalist you havent got a brain.

 

Sort of sums up the real world really

 

 

 

Sort of sums up cunts.

[stringvest]

Surely it would be possible to get round this, i.e. "The Sun on Sunday" etc etc.

 

THe NOTW and the Sun have different editors, writers and by and large, contributors. They are not the same. Those are the facts, but people can and will interpret them to suit their position. I don't read either, but then I never did.

[Red Nick]

Not to mention that Tom Hicks is in partnership with Murdoch in South America. Fox Sports Pan Am.

 

Really?

[Dicko]

THe NOTW and the Sun have different editors, writers and by and large, contributors. They are not the same. Those are the facts, but people can and will interpret them to suit their position. I don't read either, but then I never did.

 

Yet they have the same editorial policy, ethos, target the same audience and share cross promotional material and run joint competitions they are also facts.

 

It is also a fact that at one time an ex Liverpool player was absolutely crucified for writing an article in the NOTW. Between that time and now attitudes have changed I'm just pointing out that the attitude prevalent here was not always the case so something must have happened to change people's opinion.

 

As I say people look at it from opposing sides and never the twain shall meet.

[hamstrung]

After reading this thread I am convinced we have potential saints on board this here TLW bus.

 

I am composing the nomination letter to the Pope, however I believe a miracle is needed as proof.

 

Could the people with the perfectly calibrated moral compasses please provide proof of involvement in some sort of miraculousness and the letter will be in the post tomorrow.

 

I think you get a statue and often some sort of jewellery or plate from Franklin mint.