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Summer Transfer Thread 2012


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You are frighteningly clueless at times so I'm worried you are being serious.

 

Please explain...When have I been clueless?

 

Yes, my comment about Comolli was toungue in cheek, but he does have a great job!

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put the credit cards away lads. Sounds like some downward pressure on expectations are ahoy. Comoli:

 

It is early days. We will probably make some adjustments in the summer but nothing that we've done before,' he said.

 

'We signed nine players since Kenny came back so there will be a few adjustments but nothing massive.

 

'We have done the hard work and now it is a question of making some adjustments in certain positions.

 

'Kenny has said it several times that we have a very competitive squad and all positions are covered by two or three players, quality players, and we have a lot of young players coming through as well.'

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I don't think we need a revolution.

 

Two or three top class players.

 

We don't have a center forward worth a jot. We don't have a CM partnership we can rely on. Kuyt and Maxi are out the door. None of our wide options have contributed much at all.

 

And we are "very competitive"?!?!?!?!?

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Adam and Lucas is a good combo, imo. with hendo helping out we can control most games and create the most chances. Finishing is the problem. either Carroll and suarez become more prolific or we bring someone else in.

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put the credit cards away lads. Sounds like some downward pressure on expectations are ahoy. Comoli:

 

"All positions are covered by two or three quality players"

 

Fuck off.

 

Just because you, along with kenny, pissed away 90 odd million don't try and pass off mediocrity as 'quality' to the fans. Its quite insulting.

 

Our squad (and to a lesser extent, team) is 100% bonafide average as fuck. Of the six (yes, six) teams above us, aside from Newcastle and at a push Arsenal, all have better a first team than us and will all spend a decent amount on world class players to improve those teams. So why are we making 'minor tweaks'?

 

I'm glad we won the Carling Cup but this is exactly what I expected. Suddenly the club seems to have sought solace in our current squad of players. Bad news.

 

We need a right and left winger, because both of ours are rubbish. We need a striker who can score goals. Despite Luis' plentiful attributes, scoring goals doesn't seem to be one of them in the PL. Carroll is terrible. Bellamy being our best option upfront, only seems to be fit enough for every other game.

 

Since when did this club accept mediocrity? I never listened to those who told me that we'd be the team to drop out of the top four because I didn't think we would allow it.

 

Now it seems to be widely accepted. Our squad this year is just as mid-table as it was last year aside from the addition of Enrique. The only reason we've done (marginally) better this year is because we no longer have a dickhead at our club called Roy Hodgson, nor is Torres walking around like a wet fanny. Both of these 'improvements' were made last January and made us £50m. They were defaults.

 

If a Carling Cup means the club is happy then fuck a Carling Cup. I celebrated it wholeheartedly due to the rarity of success - but every Liverpool fan I know has been disheartened for a few years now because our club is nowhere near fighting for top honors.

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I don't think we need a revolution.

 

Two or three top class players.

 

After hearing those comments, I'll be surprised if we get one.

 

Two or three top class players is not what Comolli has alluded to.

 

That would be a big window for any club. What Comolli has alluded to is that he and Kenny are largely happy with this squad.

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Adam and Lucas is a good combo, imo. with hendo helping out we can control most games and create the most chances. Finishing is the problem. either Carroll and suarez become more prolific or we bring someone else in.

 

Adam has his qualities but is not a top-class footballer. There is a reason why no other top team went in for him (even at 7m).

 

I don't think Henderson will ever be this world-class player which many on here seem to be convinced he will be. But fair enough, he might. Eitherway, he shouldn't be a starter, nowhere near. Nor should Kuyt. So who's going to play on the right? Kenny?

 

Carroll will never be prolific. Suarez may start converting some of his chances, but he plays deep.

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Adam and Lucas is a good combo, imo. with hendo helping out we can control most games and create the most chances. Finishing is the problem. either Carroll and suarez become more prolific or we bring someone else in.

 

Adam and Lucas is good yes, but good enough to keep us in the top 4 over the next few years and get us out of the group stages in europe? I think not.

 

I'm also not bought into this, what appears to be an over-simplification, that our problem is simply "finishing". Our attackers are tactically on completely different pages and aren't creating enough gilt-edged chances IMO. Yeah, we'd fare better if all were clinical but there's far more to it.

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Unless Sky made up the quotes, this is from a few days ago.

 

Comolli said plans are already taking shape over squad strengthening in the summer and the Frenchman is expecting some big names to join the Anfield revolution.

 

"We already know there are big players who want to join us because they believe in the project and what Kenny and the club are trying to do," he added.

 

"The fact we are playing in Europe and have won a trophy are all positive things.

 

"There is a positive vibe around the club around Europe."

 

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Adam has his qualities but is not a top-class footballer. There is a reason why no other top team went in for him (even at 7m).

 

I don't think Henderson will ever be this world-class player which many on here seem to be convinced he will be. But fair enough, he might. Eitherway, he shouldn't be a starter, nowhere near. Nor should Kuyt. So who's going to play on the right? Kenny?

 

Carroll will never be prolific. Suarez may start converting some of his chances, but he plays deep.

 

Okay, we might as well pack it all in then eh? If we can't spunk 200m this summer there is simply no hope, you are right.

 

Think I'll choose Man City, I like them.

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If we don't spend this summer because we're happy with the squad then it's incompetence. If we don't spend because there's no money well that's something different. May aswell just wait and see what unfolds but this team at the minute is fairly average. A great defence a shite midfield and forwards barring one or two. We need real quality buys otherwise fsg are talking bollocks about their ambition for silverware.

 

I'm not worried I think the funds will be there, but then again we are Liverpool possibly the worst in e league at spending money.

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Adam and Lucas is good yes, but good enough to keep us in the top 4 over the next few years and get us out of the group stages in europe? I think not.

 

I'm also not bought into this, what appears to be an over-simplification, that our problem is simply "finishing". Our attackers are tactically on completely different pages and aren't creating enough gilt-edged chances IMO. Yeah, we'd fare better if all were clinical but there's far more to it.

 

I completely agree with you on it being more than a case of finding a clinical striker as things stand. However, there's no denying that our finishing has been inept and better form in front of goal will see us improve. It's a blatant problem, staring us in the face and taunting us. "You can't finish for shit, haha."

 

I see the problems with the team, beyond shooting straight at the keeper/into the Kop, as follows:

 

 

-A bit aging and too injury prone (Johnson, Gerrard, Agger, Kelly(?), Bellers, Carragher)

-Too reliant on Lucas (we know all about that one - need cover)

-A little inexperienced/raw in key positions (Henderson, Carroll)

 

 

I think we can sort these problems out with a decent summer, and the last one will take care of itself as Carroll and Henderson get more games.

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I just don't believe that Kenny is happy with what he's got. If money is available I bet he'll look to improve.

 

I said in October we needed to strengthen in January otherwise 4th place is at risk, I'm certain Kenny thought that too. I also said considering the injuries 4th place shouldn't be considered the minimum requirement for him anymore.

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One of our main problems at the moment is not having a formation that gets the best out of our players. We should be using until the end of the season to find a formation that gets the best performances out of Gerrard AND Suarez. Then picking the other players based on that formation, rather than trying to shoehorn Gerrard and Suarez into the managers preferred formation.

 

We can't sort out our system and formation during the summer, when there are no competitive games, we need to use these games now to at least experiment, because it's pretty obvious the 4-4-1-1 (or 4-4-2) isn't working for Gerrard or Suarez.

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Adam has his qualities but is not a top-class footballer. There is a reason why no other top team went in for him (even at 7m).

 

I don't think Henderson will ever be this world-class player which many on here seem to be convinced he will be. But fair enough, he might. Eitherway, he shouldn't be a starter, nowhere near. Nor should Kuyt. So who's going to play on the right? Kenny?

 

Carroll will never be prolific. Suarez may start converting some of his chances, but he plays deep.

 

I've never seen anyone on here suggest Henderson will become world class, yet you seem to think that people are convinced of the fact. In short, bollocks.

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