Halsey: Referee standards have dropped to alarming levels  

There is now no other option that the officials in the PL are bent. They decide what they want to happen on the pitch and there is more than enough evidence to support that theory now.

It absolutely boils my fucking brain that PL hierarchy can watch their global product be systematically corrupted week on week by a bunch of little, bald, Manc traffic wardens and not intervene to do something about it.

Webb must know where the bodies are buried and is holding it against them. There's not a single argument to the contrary as to why he should not have been sacked 20 times this season. The Spurs game should have been the nail in the coffin yet 2 of the gimps got a week off (presumably on full pay) and came back the week after as if nothing happened. In any other industry they'd never do the job again after such a monumental fuck up.

Football will never be a serious Sport while the PGMOL are in charge.

The Taylor thing yesterday was the final straw for me.

They have to be bent, given the training and scrutiny they go through to get to the Prem.

It's now easier to believe that they are corrupt than it is to believe they are this stupid.

4 hours ago, Barrington Womble said:

Fucking hell. The English representatives at the euros are Taylor & Oliver, with Atwell and Coote getting to go on VAR duty. 

I hope its fuck up after fuck up when  these corrupt twats are officiating , then hopefully they  can show the rest of Europe what we've had to put up with this season,  I wonder if Oliver will be summoned to the TV at the side of the pitch as we all know he's infallible,  should be interesting to see what exactly goes on In the games they do 

They’ll probably do ok as they won’t have their petty biases driving them. 

The keeper was literally fixing his socks and the manc twat stopped play and called a physio on. I hope his socks made it through the night.

6 hours ago, Red Banjo said:

There is now no other option that the officials in the PL are bent. They decide what they want to happen on the pitch and there is more than enough evidence to support that theory now.

 

It absolutely boils my fucking brain that PL hierarchy can watch their global product be systematically corrupted week on week by a bunch of little, bald, Manc traffic wardens and not intervene to do something about it.

 

Webb must know where the bodies are buried and is holding it against them. There's not a single argument to the contrary as to why he should not have been sacked 20 times this season. The Spurs game should have been the nail in the coffin yet 2 of the gimps got a week off (presumably on full pay) and came back the week after as if nothing happened. In any other industry they'd never do the job again after such a monumental fuck up.

 

Football will never be a serious Sport while the PGMOL are in charge.

The refs have the full backing of the bigwigs because these controversies propel the 'brand' of the Premier League into national stories in every corner of the globe. That's the bottom line. There is no such things as bad publicity said Cecil B De Mille many years ago and professional football now is sport Hollywood. 

6 hours ago, Red Banjo said:

There is now no other option that the officials in the PL are bent. They decide what they want to happen on the pitch and there is more than enough evidence to support that theory now.

 

It absolutely boils my fucking brain that PL hierarchy can watch their global product be systematically corrupted week on week by a bunch of little, bald, Manc traffic wardens and not intervene to do something about it.

 

Webb must know where the bodies are buried and is holding it against them. There's not a single argument to the contrary as to why he should not have been sacked 20 times this season. The Spurs game should have been the nail in the coffin yet 2 of the gimps got a week off (presumably on full pay) and came back the week after as if nothing happened. In any other industry they'd never do the job again after such a monumental fuck up.

 

Football will never be a serious Sport while the PGMOL are in charge.

Sometimes you've got to wonder if they have a bet on or something. Look at Oliver today. Hasn't done anything that could potentially hurt city's chance all season. Then gets maybe the easiest decision to give a pen and let spurs back into the game today. He was about 4 yards away max, an absolutely perfect view, nailed on pen and gave fuck all. It was such a bad error, the VAR had to intervene, which we know Oliver hates. It was an astonishing decision imo. It's decisions like that that make you wonder if it could just be incompetence. 

1 hour ago, Tj hooker said:

I hope its fuck up after fuck up when  these corrupt twats are officiating , then hopefully they  can show the rest of Europe what we've had to put up with this season,  I wonder if Oliver will be summoned to the TV at the side of the pitch as we all know he's infallible,  should be interesting to see what exactly goes on In the games they do 

I'm not sure anyone will give a fuck. The European refs seem just as bad from what I can see and the VAR seems to operate in a similar "look after my mate" method the world over. 

Taylor as ref with Atwell on VAR, the dream team that gave us the 3 non-penalties fiasco in the Everton-Forest game, appointed as officials for the Dortmund PSG semi. Atwell, as VAR, who lied that ‘Doku makes first contact’. Taylor , who presided over that utter shambles at West Ham.  I really hope UEFA get what they deserve for this totally bananas decision. 

On 28/04/2024 at 19:22, Scott_M said:

That Taylor / Gakpo / Areola thing yesterday was a complete disgrace. 
 

He’s stopped us scoring there because Areola is a shithouse. Scandalous decision. 

Think it says a bit about Gakpo tbh. A natural goalscorer like Suarez would have put it in the net and see what the ref did.

36 minutes ago, The wanderer said:

Think it says a bit about Gakpo tbh. A natural goalscorer like Suarez would have put it in the net and see what the ref did.

Great analogy. 

37 minutes ago, The wanderer said:

Think it says a bit about Gakpo tbh. A natural goalscorer like Suarez would have put it in the net and see what the ref did.

Ref would have got out the yellow card for kicking the ball away.

Wouldn't have mattered if he put it in, the whistle had gone and they wouldn't have allowed it. 

Taylor had already blown. Literally nothing would have changed except Gakpo getting booked.

Webb will admit tomorrow that Forest should have had a pen vs Everton, only one though. This new "Premier League's Independent Key Match Incidents Panel" have said the other 2 were not pens. Wonder if they'll say anything about Gakpo. That non goal and the non pen vs Man City have pretty much cost is 4pts. So even without any other decisions and as bad as we have been we should be a point back from Arsenal and above City

1 hour ago, Dicko said:

 

Taylor had already blown. Literally nothing would have changed except Gakpo getting booked.

I think at the very least there would need to have been some kind of a lie spun. If he had reacted immediately he would have beat the whistle IMO.

Richard fucking Masters thinks everything is all ticketyboo. Pretty much every club, barring the  Manchesters for some reason, has had horror, game changing "mistakes" so why aren't they pushing for changes?

9 hours ago, The wanderer said:

Think it says a bit about Gakpo tbh. A natural goalscorer like Suarez would have put it in the net and see what the ref did.

The ref was frantically blowing to stop the game once he saw Gakpo go for it, didn’t he? 

1 minute ago, Scott_M said:

The ref was frantically blowing to stop the game once he saw Gakpo go for it, didn’t he? 

It would be interesting to compare when he blew and where the ball was . The norm would be to blow when he was closer to the incident . The keeper hadn’t gone down and their med staff were all sat down and Taylor had moved upfield. Like I said it would be interesting to see the explanation if Gakpo had put the ball in the net and Taylor disallowed it.

On 28/04/2024 at 10:22, Scott_M said:

That Taylor / Gakpo / Areola thing yesterday was a complete disgrace. 
 

He’s stopped us scoring there because Areola is a shithouse. Scandalous decision. 

I think there was something similar in the first leg of the Arsenal/Bayern game.

Wonderful. 
 

9 hours ago, The wanderer said:

I think at the very least there would need to have been some kind of a lie spun. If he had reacted immediately he would have beat the whistle IMO.

58 minutes ago, Kevin D said:

I think there was something similar in the first leg of the Arsenal/Bayern game.

There are two trains of thought on this…

1) Rules are rules and the defending side should have been penalised.

2) Is penalising Areola / the Arsenal defender in the “spirit of the game”?

Pre-VAR, I’d have aired on the side of 2, however given how VAR forensically analysis stuff, the way the game has gone, in the current climate, 1.

We scored a goal v Sunderland, under Hodgson I think, where the defender moved the ball with his foot, Torres or Kuyt ran though and scored. 

Apparently Taylor was in his right to use "common sense” when Gakpo could've scored.  Hooper/England could not use "common sense” when Luis Diaz scored a legitimate goal. Then they had to stick with the original decision

When the ref gave McAllister a yellow card VAR intervened and gave him a red. A neutral panel later had to decide it was not a red card after all. Other times they don’t interfere because they can’t interfere unless it’s a clear and obvious error.

It’s just a mess where they back each other actions with whatever excuse they can come up with. Sometimes it has to be clear and obvious, other times not. Sometimes refs are allowed to use common sense other times not.

56 minutes ago, JustTosh said:

Apparently Taylor was in his right to use "common sense” when Gakpo could've scored.  Hooper/England could not use "common sense” when Luis Diaz scored a legitimate goal. Then they had to stick with the original decision

When the ref gave McAllister a yellow card VAR intervened and gave him a red. A neutral panel later had to decide it was not a red card after all. Other times they don’t interfere because they can’t interfere unless it’s a clear and obvious error.

It’s just a mess where they back each other actions with whatever excuse they can come up with. Sometimes it has to be clear and obvious, other times not. Sometimes refs are allowed to use common sense other times not.

 

Agreed , that’s why I would have loved to have seen their explanation if Cody had put the ball in the net. We all know it would have been disallowed.

Puttung Tierney in charge for Sunday is now basically Webbs way of rubbing ours and Jurgens nose in it .

I mean how many times have we been reffed by these Manc twat referees this season alone .