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Should Glen Johnson get a new contract?

    With just a year and a bit remaining on his current deal, Liverpool have a decision to make on Glen Johnson this summer. Do they offer him a new deal on his existing terms, try to convince him to sign for less money, move him on for whatever they can get or perhaps let him see out the final year of his current deal before testing the free agent market? Three TLW contributors share their thoughts...


 

Despite his (let’s be kind here) erratic recent form, Glen Johnson is a quality player on his day. He’s a valuable attacking asset and has formed part of cohesive defensive units under previous managers. This season has been a different story however; Johnson’s form has been well below what’s been expected from him. It’s a mark of how well others have done in his absence, and how poorly Johnson has performed when he has played, that not renewing his contract and cutting our losses by selling him is now more of a certainty than keeping him.

 

In the background of all this is the negotiations themselves. Johnson’s reported to be unwilling to take a pay cut from the handsome £100,000+ per week he earns. Now whilst it’s justifiable that the player shouldn’t want to take a pay cut (would you if you were him?), he really has to be mindful of the surroundings he now finds himself in. The club has spent a great deal of time and effort reducing the wage bill down to something more manageable for a team that’s not in the Champions League. Johnson’s current contract is a throwback to another era and it’s incredibly unlikely that we’ll see its like again. The club now prefers to reward players with big contracts based on their age, how valuable they are as an asset and their long term form. On all three of those tenets Johnson falls down. He’s getting on in age, there’s not a lot of resale value to be had from him and his form has been ‘erratic’ at best.

 

In any sport, the usual rule of thumb is that a player will play his best stuff in a ‘contract’ year; showing how off how good he is to add on the extra cash when the negotiations roll around. That works on two fronts, either their current employer has to pay up, or another team will swoop in because they’ve seen a high performing player who can be brought in without much trouble. In most sports that usually means the final year of the contract but as football works slightly differently, it usually means the 18 months before the contract is due to expire. In Johnson’s case that hasn’t happened, in fact he’s played like he’s been sulking because he’s not got what he wanted. It has emerged that he’s been carrying injuries so that explains the poor performances, but it doesn’t excuse what appears to be a poor attitude, especially when he’s lost the ball or tracking a runner.

 

Not to pre-judge anything but the way this season is panning out, it looks like we’ll be returning to at least some sort of European football next season. That requires a much larger squad than we currently have so any transfers that happen in the summer, I’d prefer them to be weighted 80/20 if favour of incoming players. There should be no reason to ship out any player who currently plays in the first team in the summer; we need reinforcements, not wholesale changes. Having said all of that, that only includes Johnson if he’s willing to take a substantial pay cut. If he thinks that he’s worth more than Liverpool are offering then he should be our guest and test the waters of being a free signing. There aren’t many teams in England who will offer him what Liverpool is offering him which is (apparently) £70,000 a week and probable Champions League football. If he thinks he can do better than that, well then see you later, Glen.

 

Despite his performances this season and his injury problems, I’ve always got a place in my squad for good players and despite thoughts elsewhere to the contrary, Glen Johnson is a good player. Like the Million Dollar Man said “everyone has a price”, and for Johnson that price is a lot lower than he currently perceives it to be. There’s a contract on the table for Johnson, it shouldn’t go any higher so it’s his choice whether he sticks or twists. I hope he sticks but I’ll lose no sleep if he twists. Let’s just hope that he’s not left twisting in the wind.

 

 

Julian Richards

 


 

It wasn’t long ago Glen Johnson was viewed as a crucial member of the Liverpool side-and rightly so. This past autumn, in the midst of a period during which the Englishman was out due to injury, Brendan Rodgers acknowledged that Johnson was the type of player whose absence truly underscored his importance to the team. At the time it was easy to see why; with more than enough pace to maintain the high line the manager prefers, as well as the skill and technique to offer a genuine threat in attack, Johnson appeared the prototypical fullback for the new Liverpool. 

 

As we near the end of Year Two in the Rodgers era, it’s difficult to determine what exactly went wrong. To the delight of supporters, the Reds have unleashed a scintillating attacking blend, relying on intricate passing and movement, as well as on breakneck counterattacks-both areas for which Johnson would seem ideally suited. However, the fullback has looked well off the pace for most of the season: clumsy in possession and unpredictable in terms of his decision making.

 

As the Liverpool brain trust ponder whether or not to offer Johnson a new deal, the crucial question remains: Which Johnson would such a contract land them? The fullback was unconvincing in his return to action against Swansea last weekend, although the long layoff and his deployment on the left, rather than on his preferred right side are reason enough to withhold judgment until the end of the season.

 

Regardless of Johnson’s play over the next eleven matches, however, I don’t think he’s worth renewing at his current salary. His erratic form, checkered injury history and age make that too risky a proposition.  But the risks of losing Johnson are significant as well. This season Liverpool have suffered the consequences of discontinuity at the back; with a series of question marks surrounding Liverpool’s immediate future at the other three back line positions, the potential loss of Johnson could further unsettle the Reds’ defence. 

 

Moreover, for all the offensive fireworks on display this season, Rodgers’ side have managed a paltry two goals in their three games away to the Top Three. Take nothing away from Liverpool’s impressive offensive output, but it’s going to take more than a sparkling front four to break down the stingiest defences at the most hostile grounds-in England and in Europe. In order to fully realise his vision, Rodgers’ system requires at least one fullback who can provide a legitimate threat in attack-and Glen Johnson is the only player in the squad truly capable of that feat. 

 

 

For those reasons I say let’s give Glen a chance to prove himself over these next eleven matches. If he can return to a level at or near his best, I think the Reds would do well to secure his services at a slightly reduced salary, providing of course Johnson is willing to accept that. In a back line lacking in both consistency and attacking prowess, Johnson’s future contributions could be vital. 

 

Joel Tracy

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At his best, Glen Johnson is a devastating attacking full back whose class and composure on the ball would make him a nailed on first choice for any team in the country. Many times last season and at the start of this campaign, his ability to glide past opponents on either side regardless of which flank he happened to be on opened up an obdurate 11-behind-the-ball defence and created space inside for the likes of Suarez, Sturridge, Coutinho or Gerrard to exploit. Furthermore, on the back foot he was no slouch either, regularly showing that tales of his defensive mediocrity were very much over-cooked.

 

And yet - yes that's right: there's a huge proviso coming - he's wildly inconsistent. For every 8 or 9 out of 10 performance, how many 4s or 5s are there? It's certainly more than one or two. You know what I mean: the half-arsed tracking, the lack of awareness of what's around him, the lazy pass to opposing feet or the overly ambitious cut-inside-and-hit-it effort. This season such performances have become the norm which is utterly galling as I had thought he'd finally turned a corner after last season when he was mostly sublime.

 

So you can clearly see I'm erring on the side of answering in the negative to this question - and that's before we mention the obscenity of his wage packet for this degree of output. It strikes me that he's had a new deal on his mind for a while - but not necessarily at Liverpool. He's been learning Italian for few years now and also knocked back an extension to his current contract on reduced, but still generous terms last year. Frankly, he must know that in this FSG-instigated "value is all" era he hasn't got a hope in hell of a six figures a week wedge at almost 30 years of age and so his gaze is turning towards pastures new.

 

That said, I'm still not averse to re-signing him. The problem is that the terms I'd offer, though potentially very generous, would be heavily weighted towards appearances in the context of his variable fitness and form, and therefore unlikely to be accepted by Johnson himself. So the most realistic response to this question is no - but that's not because I wouldn't have him; it's more that he wouldn't like what I was offering and I suspect that that is exactly how it will play out this summer: he will leave the club on a free to release his fat wedge from the balance sheet and ensure that other clubs can afford him as a free agent. And if that opens up the way for Jon Flanagan to continue his development in the Liverpool first team, even better.

 

 

Paul Natton

 

 


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I think injuries have got the better of him unfortunately. I wouldn't be too quick to discard him though, with champions league next season and an already threadbare squad.

The squad needs to be robust

 

 

I'm not convinced Johnson will improve with competition for that position, and the squad shouldnt have to carry dead weight.

 

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He has a fatal flaw in that he is a 'defender' who cannot actually defend. He should have been converted to a winger fucking eons ago (this would also have allowed him to work on his shite stepovers), and then we could have got ourselves a decent attacking right back who can actually close down a man and prevent a cross. Let's hope we can get one of those for next season. 

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He has a fatal flaw in that he is a 'defender' who cannot actually defend. He should have been converted to a winger fucking eons ago (this would also have allowed him to work on his shite stepovers), and then we could have got ourselves a decent attacking right back who can actually close down a man and prevent a cross. Let's hope we can get one of those for next season. 

 

I think again, this is a bit of a myth.  It's easy to block crosses when you stay in a flat back four and the fullback's only role is to keep an eye on the winger so they can play them closely.  Our fullbacks bomb up the pitch, they then have to leg it back into position and we play a very loose defensive shape at times. 

 

Admittedly Johnson isn't the quickest to close a man down once he is in position, but often people shout at him for not blocking crosses when he's followed the winger, it's played back to an overlapping fullback who then crosses the ball in.  It's rare in my view to see Johnson beaten by a winger who then gets a dangerous low ball across the box.

 

For example, just to compare with Flanno, our other fullback.

Johnson is dribbled past by players less than half the time than Flanno (0.8 x per game compared to 1.7 x per game)

They make the same number of interceptions per game (1.7) and a similar number of blocked shots (0.3 to 0.2)

Flanno makes more tackles, but gives away more fouls.

 

On the attacking side Flanno makes 38 passes per game with an average success of 84%.  He makes 0.6 key passes a game has 1 assist and 1 goal.

Johnson makes 50 passes a game with an 84% success rate, makes 1.0 key pass a game has 2 assists.  Johnson also successfully dribbles past players 1.6 times a game, over twice as good as Flanno.

 

I know Johnson isn't perfect, looks a bit dozy and has made some errors, but a lot of it is over exaggerated.  Despite being called all kinds of shit, he's been our best fullback defensively and easily much more influential going forward.  He should be on his wedge and compared to a young'un though.

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he's been our best fullback defensively and easily much more influential going forward. 

I think it is extraordinarily difficult to be both of the above.

 

He is good going forwards, but we have quite a few players who are good at that.As a defensive full back I think he is good, and that is it, which isnt good enough to win titles and the major competitions. It was a conclusion Chelsea came to several years ago.

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I think it is extraordinarily difficult to be both of the above.

 

He is good going forwards, but we have quite a few players who are good at that.As a defensive full back I think he is good, and that is it, which isnt good enough to win titles and the major competitions. It was a conclusion Chelsea came to several years ago.

 

I meant he was the most influential going forward of our full backs.  Admittedly some may say that wasn't too hard.

And the Chelsea comment?  Really?  How about the conclusion Chelsea made on Daniel Sturridge when he was the same age?

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Only if he`d be willing to take a paycut.

 

He`s a senior player, he`s british and whatever wages he`s on I`m willing to bet it`s to much given his age, performance and durability.

He`s had almost no competition for his spot this season and maybe he`s been resting on his laurels abit. Giving him competition for the starting job just might work and bring out some performances from him.

In the end though, I bet he`s going to ask for more money and we`ll sell him, and to be honest I`ll be fine with that. Whatever the outcome I just don`t want to see him as a 1st. choice next season.

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My dad always told me, it takes a big man to admit when he's wrong.

 

I was wrong, Johnson is fucking terrible and his lack of effort/ability can fuck right off.  I hope we sell him in the summer, if nobody is willing to pay a fee - swap him for a pack of bibs or a traffic cone, at least they could be put to good use in training.

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I get criticism as he obviously deserves it but I still think a lot of it is harsh.

 

Agreed. No need for some of it. It appals me to see our own "fans" calling one of our own players a "cunt". He's not a "cunt", he's just past his best and frustrating as hell to watch. He can't play to the standard we need him to so he has to be replaced.

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Agreed. No need for some of it. It appals me to see our own "fans" calling one of our own players a "cunt". He's not a "cunt", he's just past his best and frustrating as hell to watch. He can't play to the standard we need him to so he has to be replaced.

 

I won't abuse him but I don't slag people like Cissokho off because even though he's dog shit - he puts in 100% every time he plays.  Johnson doesn't, he looks half arsed nowadays and that's unforgivable.

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I won't abuse him but I don't slag people like Cissokho off because even though he's dog shit - he puts in 100% every time he plays.  Johnson doesn't, he looks half arsed nowadays and that's unforgivable.

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I won't abuse him but I don't slag people like Cissokho off because even though he's dog shit - he puts in 100% every time he plays.  Johnson doesn't, he looks half arsed nowadays and that's unforgivable.

 

 

I clearly meant calling him a "cunt" or other things people have said.

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Never liked him as think he is a typical brainless English footballer whose athleticism gets him away with a lot more than it should.

Now is the right time to move him on and free up some wages and spending money.

Spending the fee we did on him wasnt a great idea at the time but we've got as much out of him as we can.

Abuse is out of order but criticism is fair game.

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Never liked him as think he is a typical brainless English footballer whose athleticism gets him away with a lot more than it should.

Now is the right time to move him on and free up some wages and spending money.

Spending the fee we did on him wasnt a great idea at the time but we've got as much out of him as we can.

Abuse is out of order but criticism is fair game.

 

We had to pay the huge fee because Chelsea wanted him and Pompy owed us a shit load of money from Crouch, we'd never have seen any of that had we not done the Johnson deal.

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Give him £25,000 a year. It's a good wage. He gets a lot of spare time, good holidays and free access to his employer's health facilities. Also gets free lunches, freshly cooked, five days a week plus free uniform and footwear.

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No player for Liverpool should be called a cunt by their own fans. Even if we have had one or two. I would never call one of ours a cunt. Johnson though has the air of someone less than arsed, and I hope we've seen the last of him in a Liverpool shirt. Same with Aspas, same with Lucas. We really need to step up.

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Tony Gale on SSN claiming Johnson and Baines could be England's most attacking players at the WC.

Congratulations Tony, how did you get this gig? I wish I could talk utter horse shit and get paid too.

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Tony Gale on SSN claiming Johnson and Baines could be England's most attacking players at the WC.

Congratulations Tony, how did you get this gig? I wish I could talk utter horse shit and get paid too.

 

To be fair, anything is possible under Neuchâtel Xamax's Dear Leader. He might play them upfront.

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I agree that abuse is out if order, but sometimes it is justified. Downing for example, WAS a cunt. As is Glen. The cunt.

 No glen is not a cunt, he has had a bad season but has had good ones before that for us where he was one of our best players.

 

He has always been loyal to lfc when big clubs were interested and we were doing shit and he has never said a bad word against us.

 

He has not played to his level for this season for whatever reasons and if we can improve on him like with every other player I would be happy for us to do so.

 

However the stick and abuse glen is getting is out or order as he has been a loyal servant for us in his time here.

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He was happy to stay because no other club made a offer for him and nobody in there rigjt mind would pay him his ridiculous wages.

He has been shite the majority of his time with us, injured for another quarter and good the rest.

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He's had an absolute atrocious season, his attacking capabilities have completely disappeared. Funnily enough I think the slower pace of international football will suit him and we may get a better fee for him than we should. 

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Tony Gale on SSN

 

He chats shit all the time.

 

Remember earlier in the season that Sterling was just all about pace.  Rodgers then said in his next press conference that he respected Tony's opinion, but he works with Sterling every day and he had much more to his game than just pace.  He had intelligence, touch, skill etc.

 

I think Rodgers was right on that one.

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