Lance Armstrong calls it quits in fight against doping charges

[Josef Svejk]

"Pump up our tyres, put water in our bottles, take performance enhancers..."

 

Part of the game: we were all doing it.

[lifetime fan]

Who's going to cry first, Oprah or Lance?

[Guest LFD]

Where are you watching this?

[Josef Svejk]

"The important thing is I'm beginning to see that" (the "anger" at my "betrayal").

 

Laughable stuff.

[Josef Svejk]

Where are you watching this?

 

OWN - Oprah and Lance Armstrong: The Worldwide Exclusive

[lifetime fan]

sky channel 520

[Guest LFD]

He is right that he wasn't the only one taking drugs at that time, it seems they all were.

 

But they'll make an example of him.

[lifetime fan]

UCI asked me for a donation.

[lifetime fan]

Admits Emma O'Reilly told the truth about the back dated doctors certificate.

[lifetime fan]

So he did fail a dope test, though Lance won't admit he's ever failed a test.

[Josef Svejk]

He is right that he wasn't the only one taking drugs at that time, it seems they all were.

 

But they'll make an example of him.

 

He wasn't the only one doesn't mean:

 

(1) all of them were;

 

(2) those who were doing so were doing so equally or to equal effect;

 

(3) those who were doing so had equal access to the best available performance enhancers;

 

(4) those who were doing so were doing so without coercion (by, among others, Armstrong himself).

[lifetime fan]

Refuses to answer question on Betsy Andreu.

 

 

So much for the no conditions and open field Lance.

 

Lying till the end.

[Guest LFD]

He wasn't the only one doesn't mean:

 

(1) all of them were;

 

(2) those who were doing so were doing so equally or to equal effect;

 

(3) those who were doing so had equal access to the best available performance enhancers;

 

(4) those who were doing so were doing so without coercion (by, among others, Armstrong himself).

 

True.

[Josef Svejk]

True.

 

I read an excellent, scientifically-informed article about the myth of the level playing field in cycling the other day. Alas, it now escapes me.

 

But Armstrong is trying the cultivate that myth by claiming that everybody was or could have been doing what he was doing.

[Newport]

It's too simplistic to say all riders were doping. Some were clean and they get lumped in with a big bunch of cheaters, but that's not fair to those who tried to win without doping and unfortunately some of them will never get the recognition they deserve.

 

A lot and all of the overall candidates most likely used something, but there has been quite a few riders who have quit because the knew the others were doping and/or because they didn't get the results they were hoping for.

[Josef Svejk]

"We wouldn't be sitting here if I didn't come back." Come back and finish third... clean!

 

Umm...

[lifetime fan]

USADA spoke to all the other cyclists before me, they treated me differently.

[lifetime fan]

Now he wants to be 'the first man in the door' to clean up cycling.

[Newport]

"We wouldn't be sitting here if I didn't come back." Come back and finish third... clean!

 

Umm...

 

Right. :whistle:

 

He probably was clean the second year though, when he actually looked like a human.

[Josef Svejk]

Right. :whistle:

 

He probably was clean the second year though, when he actually looked like a human.

 

Or an ageing cheat?

[Josef Svejk]

Part Two is the tear-jerker.

[Newport]

Funny how that Harpo logo at the end resembled a bunch of bracelets. Would have been even better if they were yellow.

[lifetime fan]

"Before my diagnosis I would say I was a competitor, but I wasn't a fierce competitor. And in an odd way that process turned me in to a person that was gonna who was truely win at all costs".

 

 

So it was cancer's fault Lance.

[lifetime fan]

Part Two is the tear-jerker.

 

 

Mom, kids and loosing the money.

[lifetime fan]

"I viewed Michele Ferrari as a good man, a smart man. And I still do".