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There's a lot to unpack here but even so, I'm going to try to keep this as brief as possible again, not least because I didn’t even see any of it after it went 1-1. Maybe if I had kept the TV on I’d be more pissed off about the way we capitulated, but I didn’t see the capitulation though so that’s not my primary focus of anger.

 

I switched it off because I’ve had enough. This sport is rigged. Officials are dictating the outcomes of games for reasons I’m not going to speculate on. I don’t know why this complete dishonesty and utter lack of sporting integrity is happening, I just know that it is. Because I see it virtually every week. Not just in our games either, although we do seem to be on the receiving end more than most.

 

I’ve seen too much evidence of it this season to put it down to bad luck or acts of random incompetence. It isn’t that. If you want to tell yourself it is because you don’t want to look like a conspiracy loon or bad loser or whatever, that’s fine. Have at it. Keep telling yourself this is happening because referees are shit. Funny how we never benefit from that ‘shitness’ though, eh? 

 

This was the straw that broke this particular camel’s back. I don’t think I’ve ever switched off before the end of a game before. Certainly not with this long to left to go. I had to though. For my own sanity. I couldn’t watch anymore of this shit. There’s only so much you can take before completely snapping and if I’d kept that TV on I’d have done something I regretted. I love my big TV, I don't want to see it with the coffee table embedded in it.

 

So I switched it off and went into another room. I knew what was happening because I had my phone and the lads in various group chats were posting about it but I didn’t see it so somehow it wasn’t as bad. That equaliser being allowed to stand broke something in me though. I’ve honestly had enough now, I don’t even want to watch footy anymore as it’s corrupt as fuck.

 

I’ve been saying it for months and not just relating to our games, but in general. On those close offside decisions they decide what decision they want to make and they then manipulate the lines to fit.

 

That Leicester goal is offside under the current shitty rules. Without VAR I’m fine with that being given as a goal as it’s close. No problem if a linesman thinks its level and gives a goal. One of those things, it happens. Arguing about offside decisions that are that close is pointless. How can you expect a lino to be 100% when it’s that tight?

 

As soon as you bring the video into it though it’s a different ball game. I’ve seen goals allowed / disallowed based on lines being drawn a few centimetres back of where one should be and a few ahead of where the other should be.

 

The lines here are bullshit. The line is on the shoulder of the Leicester player. Compare that with the one Bamford had disallowed where they drew the line nearer his fucking elbow. Or Virgil at Goodison. Countless others too. And look at the line for where Bobby’s boot supposedly is. Is he wearing Sideshow Bob’s clown shoes or what? (actually that would explain a lot)

 

As I say, they give whatever decision they WANT to give. If there was any way the cunt on VAR could have given the penalty instead of a free-kick he would have done. Anthony Taylor couldn’t wait to point the spot and will have been gutted he was over-ruled. Surprised the baldy manc cunt didn’t join in the celebrations with the Leicester players. Fuck him. Everything time he’s near one of our games bad shit happens.

 

I’ve had enough now. I can live with us not winning games and just being a top half side. Shit, I’ve lived with it for large parts of the last 30 years. I can’t be doing with this incessant fucking cheating we’re being subjected to. Because it is cheating. Anthony Taylor and VAR not giving a free-kick when a defender shoves Sadio over with two fucking hands is cheating.

 

Call it an error if you like, but it isn’t. This is the problem. I keep saying it but when you look at these decisions in isolation you can say “he got that wrong” or “could have gone either way” or whatever. And that is exactly how these cunts have been getting away with it all season. Because taken in isolation you can explain away any decision.

 

It’s bullshit though. They know what they’re doing. Don’t tell me that four officials all ‘forgot’ to send off Pickford. Don’t tell me that Lee Mason the VAR saw Mo shoved in the back on the edge of the Fulham box when they scored and thought ‘that’s not a foul’. No, he saw it and he knew it was a foul. Just as the cunts on duty at Goodison all knew it should have been a red card.

 

And these fuckers in this game knew EXACTLY what they wanted to do and they did it. And they’ll keep doing it because they can. There’s nothing to stop them doing it. They give decisions based on what they WANT to give and not on what they SHOULD be giving. There’s no way to prove it of course and I’m almost certain there’ll be no money trail to follow because it isn’t THAT kind of corruption. At least I hope it isn’t.

 

But don’t tell me this is a level playing field and we just aren’t getting the rub of the green because it’s fucking bollocks. I switched off when that goal was allowed to stand because what is the point in watching this anymore? Seriously? Why should we watch? We invest so much time, money and emotion into a sport that is now about as legitimate as WWE. At least WWE fans know their sport is rigged and aren’t under the illusions football fans are.

 

We may as well have Vince McMahon sat in his office deciding on the outcomes of these games. Instead it’s Dermot Gallagher, a twat who looks like a dandelion with all the fluff blown off. His little bunch of minions are shafting us every other week. It isn’t random acts of incompetence. The sample size is way to big to explain it away like that.

 

We’ve got enough problems of our own to deal with but when you factor in the completely one sided officiating of our games there’s just no chance really. Virgil won’t change this. Shit, we could build a team machine and bring Alan Hansen back from the 80s to play against him and it won’t make a blind bit of difference. 

 

For 75 minutes of this game we were good. We were clearly better than Leicester and deservedly led. A win would have been huge for us when you look at the table. It would have helped rebuild some of the fragile confidence. But then out of nowhere the rug is pulled out from under us. Firstly, that’s not a foul in a million years. Trent and Thiago have closed off any space and there’s nowhere for Barnes to get though. So he knocks the ball through and runs straight into Thiago. 

 

I see Thiago getting a lot of stick for that (especially from that skinny cunt McManaman who was an absolute disgrace on commentary by the way) but Barnes is hitting the deck regardless of anything Trent or Thiago do. Thiago doesn’t even tackle him. He initially goes to but then doesn’t, and Barnes just throws himself to the floor. He’s playing for it and he was all afternoon. He got Jones booked with a dive, he did the exact same thing to Trent soon after and then Kabak was booked because Barnes ran straight into him as well.

 

Put it this way, would Salah have been given a foul for that? Or put it yet another way, would Barnes have been awarded a pen in the first half for the incident in which Mo got the ball first and was clipped on the foot? I think we know the answer to those questions, but if you’re unsure about the second one then I’ve got two words for you. Danny. Welbeck.

 

This is what I’m saying. You can look at any of these incidents and justify the decisions made because they’re subjective. It’s only when you look at how many of these ’subjective’ decisions have gone against us and how few have gone for us that the true picture emerges. 

 

That wasn’t even a fucking foul but Taylor pointed to the spot immediately, even though it was outside the box. VAR must have been like “sorry Ant, I’d love to let that stand but it’s outside and I can’t get away with it. We’ll get ‘em though, don’t worry”. Seconds later he’s like “it’s ok, he’s offside but it’s close enough that I can sort it. Jobs a good ‘un”.

 

And just like that, 75 minutes of good work is undone and our players lost their fucking heads completely. It’s easy to criticise them for that but we knew going into the game that their confidence was fragile and it just seems to me that there’s only so much adversity you can rail against until eventually you just succumb to it. 

 

I mean fucking hell, I didn’t even want to watch it after that ‘goal’ but those lads are then expected to just pick themselves up and get on with it. And then when they do, Sadio is blatantly shoved to the floor, it gets ignored and just like that it’s 2-1 in a game we had under complete control. If I’m Hendo I’d have walked off the pitch at that point and forfeited the game in protest.

 

No fucking wonder they let in a third. Their heads will have gone completely. I haven’t seen the second or third goals, all I’ve seen after it went 1-1 was the two handed shove on Mané that was ignored. I don’t care who was at fault or what happened after that equaliser. I honestly just don’t give a fuck because it’s irrelevant anyway.

 

For us to have any chance of overcoming the officiating we’d have to be playing at the level we were last season (at least until before Watford) and that’s just not going to happen with the injuries we’ve had and with no fans. We’ve dropped off significantly due to various factors but with a level playing field we’d still be comfortable in second or at the absolute worst third.

 

If I had a choice I’d fuck the Premier League off completely and the only games I’d watch for the rest of the season would be Champions League. That’s not an option for me because this is my fucking job. There’s no escape. No walking away from it and there’s actually a part of me feels guilty that I switched the TV off at 1-1 because this is my job and I take pride in it.

 

The truth is though, if I had another way of making a living I’d walk away from this tomorrow because I fucking despise what they’ve done to football now, with their stupid rule changes and VAR bollocks and jumped up little fucking nazi refs throwing their weight around without any kind of comeback. What can you do though?

 

If Klopp complains he’ll get fined and nothing will change. If he doesn’t, they just carry on anyway. If he were to insist on that bald fuck Taylor being banned from our games one of his buddies will step up and screw us even more just to teach us a lesson. Besides, it isn’t just Taylor. There’s at least half a dozen of them who are continually fucking us.

 

We’re at the point now though were we have nothing to lose. Klopp should go off on one big time with a list of all the times we’ve been shafted. He should also instruct the players to be fucking hammering the ref from start too finish. We just accept these decisions and say fuck all. From now on, I want all of them fucking surrounding them and screaming at them. 

 

If it’s Mason or Taylor I want Hendo screaming “YOU CHEATING BALDY MANC CUNT”. If it’s Jon Moss I want him or Robbo or Trent or whoever in his face calling him a fat useless sack of shit. Take the fucking headset off them and abuse the VAR twat as well. And if one gets sent off, then another one needs to get right in there and do it. They can’t send everyone off. Show the cunts we’re not standing for it anymore. 

 

I despise the body language of our players when these decisions are going against us. We make it easy for them by saying fuck all. It does my head in. Stand up for yourselves. I don’t give a fuck if that’s not Klopp’s way. Let these cheating fucks know we’re onto them and apply some pressure on them. Seriously, I guarantee none of them have the balls to send two or three players off for dissent. 

 

You’ll notice I’ve said virtually nothing about how we played and what worked and what didn’t, because what’s the point? Seriously, none of it matters when you’re up against this kind of shit. I actually feel that criticising players or pointing out mistakes is glossing over the real problem in this game which was 100% the officials. It was fine until they fucked us over. Looking at what happened after that is just a distraction from the real issue.

 

I can’t write a ‘normal’ match report for this game because my head has gone completely. I can’t get past the officiating screwing us over like that again. I said a few weeks back that going into games now I never fear the opposition (other than City to an extent) but I’m terrified of what the officials will do. THIS is exactly why. Every week I worry about what the officials are going to do and half the time it turns out to be justified.

 

So I don’t give a shit about Alisson supposedly fucking up again (haven’t seen it) or Kabak getting done on a goal (haven’t seen it). I’m not arsed about Thiago still looking like a fish out of water or Bobby being shite again (other than that glorious assist). I’m not arsed because I just don’t think it matters anymore.

 

The season is fucked because everything that could go wrong has gone wrong and any attempt to fight through that shit is being undermined at every turn by cheating from the officials. So yeah, that’s how I feel and I don’t care if it sounds like paranoia or self pity. I might be paranoid but that doesn’t mean I’m wrong.

 

 

Team: Alisson; Alexander-Arnold, Kabak, Henderson, Robertson; Wijnaldum, Milner (Thiago), Jones (Oxlade-Chamberlain); Salah, Firmino, Mané:

 


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VAR must be gone by the beginning of next season. Seriously. Gone forever and never allowed to return.

 

How?
 

Get as many clubs as possible in the sport to sign a petition that VAR is to be dumped and give a deadline that it needs to be done by. Surely there must be enough players, coaches that would like to see the back of it? It’s got to go.

 

It’s destroying the game. 
 

How else to make this happen? Any ideas?

 

 

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I've been saying it for years that the game is corrupt and been called a loon, tinfoil at etc.

 

Last season we scored enough clear goals to not make it an issue. This season it is beyond a joke and if there were any real investigative journos around these days then they'd make a real name for themselves. 

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Watching MotD her and that foul on Mane is a million times worse than I thought at the time. Klopp needs to get on top of this, if we surround the ref like all other previous champions would have then they would have had no choice but to look at it.

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4 hours ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

Bias or whatever anyone believes aside the club is definitely too meek. The players too meek. They're feeling sorry for themselves and they need to fucking knock that on the head.

Agreed. When I feel an injustice against me, I find anger is very energising. The lads need to collectively use their anger to play their best football. 

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12 minutes ago, Red Shift said:

Behind the scenes, anybody think the club are protesting loudly? Or not?

Im just amazed people think they can turn the clock back 20 years to Ferguson's time, get the players to chase refs around the pitch, be in the ref's face at every decision they dont like and Jurgen berating Riley, PGMOL, refs and VAR wont be met with a shit storm of even worse decisions by those they rail against.

 

It's a great thought this will make something happen. Sorry to piss on people's chips but it wont make a scrap of difference. Why will it? We couldnt get the majority of the PL to agree Jurgen's request for 5 fucking subs.

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The games gone just glad I got to see us compete when it still meant something. Looking forward to watching City win 10 in a row before the game implodes for good. It’s what English football fans and officialdom deserve.

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We are all fucked off for the many reasons you describe so well every week.

 

What you write I'd think all on here agree with. I see us being fucked over more than most, but I also see other teams being fucked over in a similar, if not as regular, way.

 

Why is this? Why is it being glossed over? Why are clubs not kicking off about it? Who is benefiting from it? Which teams are getting more or less of these decisions? How can it be a deliberate and conscious action against us and/or other sides yet be kept under wraps? The amount of people involved to carry this out, surely something would leak?

 

If it's, as I've seen suggested, to stop us walking away with another title, to make things more exciting for the watching world, then how are City now walking away with it? Surely we should see them start being on the end of some of these shitty decisions to peg them back a bit? 

 

I don't know. It's an absolute frustration for sure. I have no answers for the above. I would like some.

 

Apart from all that, we played well today, then imploded, again. That is a major worry.

 

 

 

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It's not accidental and it's not incompetence. It's blatantly biased against us. I told you that weeks ago Dave.

 

I suspect its corruption from the Abu Dhabians. Corruption for sure. 

 

For proper refereeing, look no further than the six nations. Told you that too. 

 

And as many have already said, our boys - and Jurgen - are simply too passive taking all this and keeping their gobs shut. 

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2 minutes ago, Redlewie said:

We are all fucked off for the many reasons you describe so well every week.

 

What you write I'd think all on here agree with. I see us being fucked over more than most, but I also see other teams being fucked over in a similar, if not as regular, way.

 

Why is this? Why is it being glossed over? Why are clubs not kicking off about it? Who is benefiting from it? Which teams are getting more or less of these decisions? How can it be a deliberate and conscious action against us and/or other sides yet be kept under wraps? The amount of people involved to carry this out, surely something would leak?

 

If it's, as I've seen suggested, to stop us walking away with another title, to make things more exciting for the watching world, then how are City now walking away with it? Surely we should see them start being on the end of some of these shitty decisions to peg them back a bit? 

 

I don't know. It's an absolute frustration for sure. I have no answers for the above. I would like some.

 

Apart from all that, we played well today, then imploded, again. That is a major worry.

 

 

 

I reckon the players must be completely fucked off with the Premier League’s VAR System. I know I would be. It’s serious enough that some players may very well want to get out of English football having done their time. Or am I being overly dramatic?

 

It would be hard NOT to capitulate wouldn’t it? I mean, week in, week out, giving everything and constantly feeling you’re being pissed on? 
 

The combination of Covid and VAR is death to football. End of.

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They drew  that line in the wrong place - look at the angle of Firmino's foot, he facing back to us so theres no way he could have a foot facing rightwards, what we are seeing in the picture is the back of his heel, he's wearing white boots, they've drawn it on the shadow. ok we are 10 or so points behind city now, but how many point have been stolen by var this season, im would say at least 10 probably 15.

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Alisson is suffering from ' Lovren Syndrome ' where he is trying to make up for mistakes by doing more risky stuff , whereas the whole point of his goalkeeping greatness is that most of it flies under the radar. Klopp needs  to sit him down tell him we love him and to watch videos of his best performances since he got here. As for suggestions that the best goalie in the world should be replaced by a gangly lad who may never become better than League One standard , I don't know where to start.

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Dave you summed it up again, mate. We have been shafted from all angles this season and I am coming to the end of the line with it. The whole style of TV presentation and the ludicrous commentaries is a massive wind up. Was there anyone on that BT panel yesterday who was not rooting for a Leicester win? 

 

We were miles better than them and should have been well clear in terms of goals.Their equaliser was a disgrace - no wonder heads dropped after we had put in so much work to get the lead against another bunch of bus parkers...

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Fuckin hell, what a report, absolutely brilliant and bang on the money.

Yea, we should highlight the poor decisions but it will be taken as sour grapes bit like the Rafa rant that everyone knew was right but got laughed away.

Wenger was on Bein sport yesterday.excellent interview. He said they are working on automated var, premier League bubble has burst, kids no longer want to watch footy just action clips as they happen nor do people want to watch games with no meaning.

Feeling your pain Dave, 

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One of your best Dave ! Couldn’t agree more laughed at the thought of the players shouting down the ear piece to the VAR ref. I still can’t get over the shove on Mane was right beside Taylor. Perhaps you get my dislike of McManaman now.

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37 minutes ago, Code said:

VAR should obviously be automatic,  I said that months ago.

 

By that you would take away the bias and incompetense from the process. 

Maybe refs are being so incompetent because they want to prove VAR is shite and protect their jobs. 

 

They shouldn't be using VAR at least until the monitor resolution can match how much they want to micromanage it.

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Thing is, if we complain about this treatment all those cunt refs will get together and double down on fucking us over.  I'm fucking sure these refs go on forums and social media and see fans ripping them to shreds so they're just sticking it to us.

 

Seeing that baldy Manc prick laughing and joking with Barnes (or Madison) just before kick off sums it up.  Opposition teams know they'll get away with murder whilst we're punished for any minor discretion (see Thiago yellow carded for a first foul - it's like there is an agenda against him).

 

As Dave has said before, it's not football anymore.

 

 

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The Mancs got a pen last week v Soton when Bednarek was sent off, it goes to VAR, then Mike Dean looks at the monitor & gives the Pen,  yesterday when Salah went down, shouldn’t be a pen like but in light of some decisions seen it was a Pen, clearly contact, the game wasn’t even stopped for a check. They can manipulate any result they want. 
Was listening to Wenger yesterday on BEIN  he said they’re  trialling technology whereby they can come to an instant decision for offside without stopping the game for too long to draw the lines. Said it’ll also be at Qatar WC. It’s only gonna get worse. We probably won’t even be able to see the manipulated lines to see how corrupt it is. 

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Some terrible decisions being made no question but lets not pretend all is well in our camp otherwise. It clearly isnt.

Its reminding me of an undisputed Heavyweight champ getting caught clean on the chin, legs have gone and is taking a pounding but telling the ref he's fine.

 

We need this fight/season to end. We can regroup and come back stronger but right now its painful to watch   

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It's all a shit show. The whole officials and VAR thing has gradually reduced my interest, I no longer watch any football outside of our games. No mention of Amertey's 2 footed challenge first half when Taylor spent his time telling Klopp to calm down. Not a word to Amertey, never mind a yellow card. 

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19 minutes ago, bigal said:

It's all a shit show. The whole officials and VAR thing has gradually reduced my interest, I no longer watch any football outside of our games. No mention of Amertey's 2 footed challenge first half when Taylor spent his time telling Klopp to calm down. Not a word to Amertey, never mind a yellow card. 

I noticed that foul by Amartey on Robbo as well. Deemed to be nothing yet a clash of arms with Barnes deserved an instant yellow.

 

Same with Curtis when he had two nibbles at Leicester players. Yeah, they were fouls but the manc cunt couldnt wait to wave his card at Curtis.

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I pretty much checked out at half time of the Brighton away game. A free kick given against us every time they flopped to the floor, but White stops a promising attack (yellow card offence) with a forearm to Jota's throat (yellow card offence) - no card shown. Since then I've only watched a couple of games live, last one being the Brighton home game (big mistake!). It's been clear since early on that it's open house on our players. 

It's the sense of injustice that gets the blood boiling. Lots of big decisions going against us, and way,way more small ones - and there's nothing you can do. Can't even bawl at a linesman from the stands now. For the sake of my health, and my wife's sanity  - she can't stand to hear 'This is fucking bent!!', followed by the sound of an object hitting the wall, any more - I've distanced myself from all football. 

The footy is just not the same with out fans, and the previously awful refereeing has got several times worse this season. Yet, read the media, you wouldn't know there's a problem. It's apparently no big deal that Mike Dean, plus VAR official with all the technology, plus 4th official plus lineperson got a major call wrong. Then they all did it again in the very next game. Or that Tierney blew up 5 seconds short of the MINIMUM amount of added on time with Mane about to run clear (dodgy as fuck that was). Or ManU equalised at West Ham after the ball went TWO FEET out of play. Or City scoring dodgy offside/onside goals in consecutive games. Or Walcott's red card challenge on Milner where we didn't even get a free kick (in a game where we had two clear penalties denied). Or Pickfor/van Dyke. Or a shedload of flaky offisde lines. Or a load of dodgy penalties.

 

I don't blame any of our lads for letting their heads drop - everything has gone against them this season, some of it unfortunate, lots of it bent-as-fuck.

 

I'll keep in touch with what's going on through these threads and Dave's reports (mentality monster, Dave) but I can't see me re-engaging anytime soon.

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