Colombian wants in but Reds prefer Belgian

Bacca is a decent player, preferable to benteke. I'd prefer someone more mobile to be honest but there isn't a great amount to choose from these days.

Bacca, by far.

“The third question is the contract. He has a good salary in Sevilla but we know how much clubs in England can pay.”

No thanks.

A pretty honest interview. In general a scenario not too dissimilar to Sterling except this guy would be coming not going and we all prefer it when the boot is on the other foot. Benteke will be FSG's first choice by a mile though, they'd hate to buy Bacca.

Bacca is 29 in September. I'm not in FSG's camp when it comes to 'sell on' value but I do like to think signings can deliver for us for years to come. If he takes a while to get going in the Premier League then he'll be practically 30 by the time he's any use.

If we do sign him I'll still convince myself he'll fire us to glory though.

A pretty honest interview. In general a scenario not too dissimilar to Sterling except this guy would be coming not going and we all prefer it when the boot is on the other foot. Benteke will be FSG's first choice by a mile though, they'd hate to buy Bacca.

Because he's cheaper and on less wages?

Neither. Hijack Tevez's supposed deal with Boca or get Morata instead please.

Please, for the love of Ravishing Rick Rude, don't let us get Benteke. I'll support him if he arrives like, but what have "the committee" seen in him to have him worth £30m+?

Bacca is 29 in September. I'm not in FSG's camp when it comes to 'sell on' value but I do like to think signings can deliver for us for years to come. If he takes a while to get going in the Premier League then he'll be practically 30 by the time he's any use.

 

If we do sign him I'll still convince myself he'll fire us to glory though.

Both Ings and Origi are in their early 20s. We need someone to deliver right now. Whether that player is Bacca, I'm not convinced.

Please, for the love of Ravishing Rick Rude, don't let us get Benteke. I'll support him if he arrives like, but what have "the committee" seen in him to have him worth £30m+?

Nothing given they seem to be bidding 25 million. For 25 million I presume they've seen a 1 in 2 goal scoring record.

Because he's cheaper and on less wages?

How would you know? The age, wage, transfer fee hit. They'll have an algorithm.

If Bacca was 22, we'd have him signed already signed.

Not a chance that we'd spend £20m+ on a 28 year old soon to be 29 in September.

Milner was only allowed because he was a free transfer.

I've gone for Benteke, he is 24, knows the league and has proved he can score goals here. Bacca's style and age make me think his body would be shot to pieces within 2 years.

I think Benteke could be our version of Drogba and in the Premiership we have seen how effective that can be for a side.

Plenty of movement in Sturridge, Ings & Origi. Firmino can also play up top. I think we need a different option...

We need an experienced goalscorer. Bacca all day for me.

We need an experienced goalscorer. Bacca all day for me.

He's not a premiership goalscorer though, this league is a graveyard for oversea's players with big reputations/hype

I'm not saying he can't score here but is he worth the risk over a player who is already proving he can score here?

He's not a premiership goalscorer though, this league is a graveyard for oversea's players with big reputations/hype

 

I'm not saying he can't score here but is he worth the risk over a player who is already proving he can score here?

No it isn't.

Benteke is expensive but he might be exactly what we need. In his case the Drogba comparisons might actually be a bit more than hyperbole. He often looks completely unplayable.

That he's only of value in the air simply isn't true. He scores all types of goals.

And if we sign him we might beat Villa next season.

I've seen Bacca play a few times, he's impressive but his age and suitability to the English game are a concern at the price being quoted.

What's Rondon like?

I've seen Bacca play a few times, he's impressive but his age and suitability to the English game are a concern at the price being quoted.

 

What's Rondon like?

Rondon's decent, probably more limited than Bacca. Would be a better signing than Benteke, mind.

What is it about Bacca's game that makes you question his suitability to the English game?

Everybody saw for themselves how many times we got bullied all over the pitch last season against the mancs and Chelsea. You take a team like Chelsea for instance, all of them are built like men, then you look at our little hobbit factory of Allen, Coutinho, Moreno etc and it's easy to see why that happens.

We'll be a tougher team to bully and a tougher team to dominate with Benteke than we would be with Bacca. Bacca would simply be a backup to Sturridge, we have no idea whether he'll cut it in the premier league and by the end of his first season he'd be 30, so your basically banking on him hitting the ground running immediately or being sold for a big loss.

Benteke on the other hand has proved himself for three consecutive seasons, he offers us the ability to lead the line on his own like he does for Villa or with Sturridge when both are fit because they both have different attributes to their game. It's not like he's a clogger, he's actually quite fast, skillful and he's a clinical finisher. Teker's easily.

I can't see FSG authorising £21.5 million for a soon to be 29 year old.

I don't think it's about age or being a 'proven' scorer in this league. Yes, Benteke has got goals for Villa and has looked a genuine threat at times but you have to look at how Villa set up and are expected to play compared to how Liverpool and the better sides in this league are expected to play. 

Villa aren't expected to take the initiative in the majority of their matches so their approach is to play on the counter. That means winning the ball in deeper positions, playing it into the front man either down the channels or to hold the ball up and link with players who are trying to catch up and support. They aren't facing teams who 'park the bus' against them so Benteke has a bit more time and space to utilise his attributes.

A side like ours which is expected to take the initiative in games will find that the forwards don't get that time or more importantly, space. They might see more of the ball but much more of their time will be spent dealing with the massed ranks against them. Everything has to be done with less space to work in.

I'm not saying that Bacca would 100% be more suitable and there are aspects of signing him that could prove to be an expensive gamble, but he is playing for a team that likes to be on the front foot and one that comes up against massed ranks of defences more often than not. It's a set up closer to ours than Villa's is.

Benteke has age on his side in that he's not yet reached his supposed peak, but we have a number of forwards who are quite a few years away from being at their peak and who would benefit from working alongside people with more know-how about what it's like to challenge for titles and trophies, prepare for European games in midweek and feature for their country in major tournaments.

Put talented but inexperienced people alongside talented and experienced people and you can create an environment that allows the experienced people a 'second wind' if you like because there is a spring in their step, and the inexperienced ones have more space and less pressure in which to develop. Done correctly, it is these people who could go on and provide the experience and know-how for the next talented but inexperienced generation.

No it isn't.

You don't think there have been many foreign players who have come to the Premier league and found it hard to adapt?

Ok...

I admit I'm not in the Bacca camp at this point.

South Americans, all mardy about the weather.

Everybody saw for themselves how many times we got bullied all over the pitch last season against the mancs and Chelsea. You take a team like Chelsea for instance, all of them are built like men, then you look at our little hobbit factory of Allen, Coutinho, Moreno etc and it's easy to see why that happens.

 

We'll be a tougher team to bully and a tougher team to dominate with Benteke than we would be with Bacca. Bacca would simply be a backup to Sturridge, we have no idea whether he'll cut it in the premier league and by the end of his first season he'd be 30, so your basically banking on him hitting the ground running immediately or being sold for a big loss.

 

Benteke on the other hand has proved himself for three consecutive seasons, he offers us the ability to lead the line on his own like he does for Villa or with Sturridge when both are fit because they both have different attributes to their game. It's not like he's a clogger, he's actually quite fast, skillful and he's a clinical finisher. Teker's easily.

This is quite a compelling argument. I like Benteke, I'm just not sold on the idea that Rodgers would be able to utilise his talents fully.

You don't think there have been many foreign players who have come to the Premier league and found it hard to adapt?

 

Ok...

You said something that, in isolation, was utterly meaningless. Would you like a list of foreign players that have adapted? Or perhaps a list of English players that haven't adapted to playing for a club that have aspirations above finishing mid table?