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Where will we finish?

    The new season is upon us and the Reds begin where they left off, with a trip to the Britannia. Hopefully the outcome will be different this time, both in terms of the individual fixture and the season as a whole. Having been granted a stay of execution the top four is the goal for Brendan this year, but will he get there? Ten of our writers make their predictions, and we want your vote too...

     


It’s hard not to be drawn into being somewhat optimistic in these moments of anticipation for a new season. The slings and arrows of the misuse of outrageous fortunes have not yet worn me down to the point where I don’t look for more uplifting suggestions for the season to come when I poke through the footballing tea leaves of a summer’s work.

 

I realise this leaves me open to that familiar feeling of a poker player losing a hand that a voice in his head told him he was mad to be chasing in the first place. The problem with constructing a world of wonderful gingerbread cottages is when, in the first match of the season, reality bites and Ryan Shawcross knocks you out whilst Charlie Adam eats the aforementioned house.

 

We’ll score a shedload more goals, the additional dynamism and defensive graft will somewhat stem the bleeding at the other end and we’ll sneak 4th place. Definitely. Ok; possibly.

 

Stu Montagu

@SimianJustice

 


 

I'll cement my reputation as a blurry-eyed optimist by predicting we’ll finish 3rd. Liverpool have bought well, strengthened the defence, can score from a number of positions and have the depth to cope with a busy season. The jury is out on some of our rivals for top 4. United don’t look stronger than last year. Pellegrini will be under immense pressure after last season. I'd expect Arsenal to finish 2nd with Chelsea walking it again, but I'm betting 2014-15 was an aberration and the ‘real’ (2013-14) Liverpool will stand up. We’ll cruise into an automatic Champions League spot.

 

Jeff Goulding

@ShanklyBoys1

 


 

I actually think we'll finish fifth but I can't bring myself to enter a season with such cripplingly mediocre expectations. Therefore, I'll go one better and say fourth.

 

A Champions League berth for Liverpool is achievable if we get a bit of luck and the wheels fall off a couple of the teams above. This would preferably include Manchester United. As it stands I'm doubtful whether we can make up ground on last season's top four. However, if we manage to get off to a good start like we did in 2013/14 confidence will grow and there's a chance we can kick on.

 

The defence remains a major concern for me. We desperately need at least one of the new strikers to hit the ground running. Hopefully we can mitigate the damage at the back and pick up enough points to grab that fourth place spot.

 

Neil Poole

@WeAre_Liverpool

 


 

I really don’t have a clue what to expect this season. Pretty happy that we signed three players with solid premier league pedigree, all 24 or over. Benteke Ings Origi and Firminho on paper offer more goals than Sterling Ballotelli Lambert and Borini, so that should help. 

 

I can still see us leaking goals for fun though, as the Manager, Goalkeeper, Left back, Centre back or Holding midfielders haven’t changed. I don’t think we have improved the squad enough to overtake last seasons top 4, and the Europa League Thursdays nights could be a burden. 

 

So I reckon fifth

 

Simon Ward

@SiWard2505

 


 

In my view we'll finish fifth. I've no doubt we'll significantly improve from the previous debacle, but numerous new players won't all immediately click or even ultimately come good. Throw in the awful early away fixtures, the spending of the incumbent top four and Spurs having finished above us in four out of five seasons, and top four looks tough.

 

Of course, there are flaws above us and Benteke's goals will add ten points assuming he hits even half decent form. However, I think there's too much for us to do with too many potential barriers in our way - the Europa League especially - to get CL qualification. I'd be delighted to be wrong though because that'd be huge for us.

 

That all said, in the unlikely event of Daniel Sturridge quickly returning to peak form and fitness, all bets are off - he's that good.

 

Paul Natton

@OxtonSoulBoy

 


 

I think we've bought very well so far and unlike last summer, there appears to be a sound strategy to what we're trying to do. Have we done enough? Not for me. I still think we're missing a top class centre half and a top class defensive midfielder, but Rodgers isn't going to change his mind on that. He's rightly beefed up our attacking options and he'll live or die by that.

 

If Firmino and Benteke do as they should then I think we have an opportunity to finish in the top 3. I don't buy the Mancs at the moment (although they might yet spend) and I think Arsenal and Man City are still there to be got at. We could finish in the top 4, easily, but we could equally implode with our tough start and finish 6th or 7th.

 

But if that's the case we'll have a new manager. And then anything could happen. I'm going to try being optimistic for once and say we'll finish 4th.

 

Dan Thomas

@TLW1Dan

 


 

We're basically battling with Spurs for 5th/6th right now, and they've bested us more often than not in the last few years. I can't see us cracking the top four because they've all gotten better. You could argue that United are vulnerable as they're light on strikers but the window is still open  and they have a penchant for splashing the cash recently. The other three have improved (Arsenal) or were better than us anyway (City, Chelsea).

 

This is a dark time to be a red, no one seems to have any real confidence in the manager and the team still has issues in the same areas. Maybe Benteke can provide the goals we need but there's still a lack of leadership and questionable defensive issues. Plus we have the burden/increased workload of the Europa League, and Rodgers seems to struggle with two games in a week. I'll go 6th because my optimism meter is running on empty.

 

Julian Richards

@Juleswithnoname

 


 

We’ll be better than last season because we’ll score more goals. We might concede the same or improve a bit, so how well we do depends entirely on how good Benteke is (and to a lesser extent Firmino). If he gets 20-25 goals then we’ll make the top four. If he doesn’t, it will be a real struggle, unless Sturridge sorts himself out.

 

To me it’s a battle between us and both Manc clubs for the 3rd and 4th places. As bad as we were last season look at how close we were to both of them going into the final ten games or so before we lost to Utd and then quit. They aren’t that good, neither are we, so anything can happen. I’ll go 4th but it could just as easily be 3rd or 5th as it’s wide open.

 

Dave Usher

@theliverpoolway

 


 

If we can stay in touch with top four after the first difficult batch of away games then there is no reason we can't go on a run from December onwards and make a good fist of claiming 4th place. Last season our dreadful start left us with too much ground to make up and the good middle third of the season counted for little in the end.

 

Chelsea and Arsenal will be the top two but we could take advantage of possible uncertainty at City with Pellegrini looking insecure and United looking like they may lack a bit of firepower right now (transfer window still being open notwithstanding of course). I will predict a tight 4th placed finish at the expense of City or United as things stand right now but possible/probable signings from those two in the coming weeks will force an opinion change again.

 

John Gallagher

@jrewingL4

 


 

I think we’ll be ok this year, maybe even pretty good. Transfer business has been solid (for once). We’ve added goals, experience and a full back capable of defending. We’ve got a decent team with decent depth. However, I don’t see us making any huge strides forward and that Thursday-Sunday schedule could kill us early on.

 

I don’t think Sterling’s departure will even remotely affect us (especially with Ibe), but Steven Gerrard’s will. It feels like the heart has been ripped out and there’s not one proper leader at the club now, including the manager, and that’s a worry. Fourth is definitely achievable, but we’ll finish fifth.

 

Chris Smith

@ByChrisSmith

 

 


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If we get off to a good start over the first few games then I think we could chase a CL spot but I doubt we'd finish above fifth. If we start badly them I reckon we'll struggle and end up contesting the 6th - 8th slots.

 

Repped.

 

 

A man of the cloth hitting the crackpipe this early in the day? For shame, G.

 

Fair play for your positivity, mate.

 

He tipped us for third last season. With a similar margin of error we'll end up in 5th.

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We're probably one of if not the most hated teams in the league. Of course people would attempt to denigrate it.

 

All the more reason to go out and win it. We shouldn't be playing for fourth as in previous years.

 

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I dont think anyone at the club sets out for 4th at the beginning of the season. The reality is as the season develops, top spot becomes out of reach but you still got to aim as high as you can.

 

It doesnt mean you start the season aiming for that lesser position though.

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So some are actually predicting how next season will turn out before we know our signings, let alone the ones made by others?

 

Utterly ridiculous.

I'll only put my prediction for next season in the correct thread, not this one. Fuck sake

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Repped.

 

 

 

 

He tipped us for third last season. With a similar margin of error we'll end up in 5th.

I didn't remember that, cheers! I think third wasn't out of the question last season, but obviously a poor start under Rodgers, a managerial change, injuries up front, and then at the end prioritizing the cup, all led to 8th... but I maintain we coulda/shoulda/woulda!

 

It's a new season and a new manager.

 

I could easily be way off, but I think we'll surprise a few people next season. We will have balance in the team and they will be fighting for the shirt. They will be a lot better prepared for each league game too.

 

Champions.

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Why do you think we'll surprise a few people, you don't even know what players we'll buy?

Obviously just speculating, but here goes...

 

We have a world class manager who, for a period of about 16 games last season, had the current group of slackers playing at CL level. With no pre season and none of his own players, as well as injuries to contend with, in particular up front, we had some good displays that filled me with hope for the coming campaign. Some players improved, even with far less coaching than they will get next season, and others showed more fight than I had seen before. Even though we finished eighth last season it wasn't that far off top four, and we got to two cup finals too.

 

Looking ahead to next season we should have a better goalkeeper. I read some stats on here on another thread that said if Mignolet had performed even at an average level for a Premier League goalkeeper the points difference to us would probably have got us into the top four. Karius will need to settle but I'm very pleased with this signing and think he will do well for us. I think he was second highest rated goalkeeper in the Bundesliga, and as far as character is concerned, he's supposed to be a confident fella.

 

We've also strengthened at centre back. Matip is tall and fast and by all accounts a decent player. Lovren looks much better under Klopp, and presumably Sakho will get his issues sorted out and come back into the fold. We may strengthen further, but even as it stands we look stronger to me.

 

Moreno has been a bit of a liability at left back. He will either be replaced or will have much better competition to fend off. If we keep him I won't go overboard on the lad, as Klopp has shown he can improve players. With a preseason and some intensive coaching, maybe Klopp can get a tune out of him? But if not, we will have better than Brad Smith to fill the gap, with the links to Hector and Chilwell looking promising.

 

Origi looked a very useful player last season too. He put on some muscle and now holds the ball up really well and doesn't get bullied by anyone. The pace is there for all to see, and last season he was getting into a goal scoring groove. If he keeps that going this season he may well become our undisputed number one striker.

 

We need some pace on the flanks, and a goal scoring threat from out wide will be welcome. We don't have that yet, but with Klopp trying to sign Dembele, and now the whispers about Mane, you would have to think we will be in for this sort of player.

 

Midfield is still a bit of a conundrum, but I don't think we are finished there. Grujic might make his mark, but more likely he will be a bit part player in his first season. But you would have to think we are in for another midfielder - someone to control the game a bit more (we lost to Sevilla because we lost the midfield battle). Dahoud has been linked, but we'll have to wait and see.

 

Anyway, long post so far, but why am I optimistic for next season?

 

- Klopp. He will shape his team with signings, in and out, and have them for preseason

- During the season we will be able to concentrate on the league

- Thus far we look to have improved at goalkeeper and central defence

- We won't be as short up front next season as this last one

- I expect us to improve at left back

- I expect us to buy a goal scoring winger

- I expect us to strengthen further in midfield

 

Granted, the last three are yet to happen, but even before they do, we are already looking much better for next season. I'm sticking my neck out a bit here because I know the world class managers that are in the league and the money they will probably spend to strengthen their sides.

 

It's going to be a great season and I can't wait for it to begin again. We are nowhere near favourites to win the league (at a guess I would say the bookmakers will have us as sixth). But I'm not a bookmaker, and as a Liverpool fan I am predicting we are going to be...

 

Champions.

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4th to 6th. Depending on consistency.

If Klopp can get the good Liverpool showing up week in week out, Then I think 4th. 

However, I don't think he's a miracle worker, and it's still going to take time for him to buy in and / or improve the players he has.

I think Liverpool will see the real improvements after a full season in charge with the signings he's chosen.

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